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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 09, 2015, 11:33:18 AM »
He follows your every word and almost reveres you.

You're an idiot if you believe this.

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Gaming / Re: GameCube Thread
« on: December 09, 2015, 09:38:58 AM »
Sonic Riders was something I played as a kid... I don't remember it being good or bad, just that I enjoyed myself.

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The Flood / Re: Your first famous crush
« on: December 09, 2015, 09:35:35 AM »
Don't remember.

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Serious / Re: Why do we need political correctness?
« on: December 09, 2015, 09:34:57 AM »
Ugh.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 09, 2015, 09:33:47 AM »
>giving anti-natalism intellectual consideration and respect

As a staunch believer in Anthropocentrism I find this laughable.

Well, I'm not trying to convince you so I don't really care.

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Gaming / Re: GameCube Thread
« on: December 09, 2015, 08:44:42 AM »
Kirby Air Riders is GOAT

is it like Sonic Riders or some shit?

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Gaming / Re: GameCube Thread
« on: December 09, 2015, 08:44:14 AM »
Battle for Bikini Bottom is the best game on that list

Super underrated game, IMO.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 09, 2015, 08:24:03 AM »
But you just said nobody can look objectively at their life?

I obviously wasn't being literal. In the same way that I could say "People are idiots", without obviously meaning everyone is an idiot.

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>Kill all humans
How do you expect that to be taken?

No one is proposing killing. You're either an idiot or aren't offering the philosophy the intellectual consideration it deserves.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 10:33:00 PM »
I tried to go vegan fairly recently by starting off as a pescatarian but my endeavor crashed harder than the rock that made the chicxulub crater.

Keep trying man. Crush the addiction.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 10:22:34 PM »
And yeah, good luck. Come to us if you need anything. I can recommend some good eats to start with.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 10:21:48 PM »
I'm... convinced.
Yeah?
I mean...fuck.

It's going to be extremely hard, but...yeah, I mean I knew it was bad but not this bad. That's just pure evil.

Yay, Korra! I'm so happy for you.

This is the problem, though. People just don't realise how bad it is. I think that's why some vegans are so vocal about their veganism.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 10:09:41 PM »
these guys aren't new

they drop in periodically to shitpost for a day and then leave

they're from bungle

Oh. Joy.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 10:05:05 PM »
I always think I want new users until they actually arrive. And then I want them to fuck off.

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The Flood / Re: how would you describe your work ethic
« on: December 08, 2015, 10:01:05 PM »

I can represent myself in a court of law. I don't have to have a degree to do so.

I can't perform surgery on myself, it's illegal and could be physically impossible. I'd need a degree of some kind to perform surgery legally.

That's kind of what I was getting at.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 08:29:29 PM »
Baby steps, man. That's how we get 'em.

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The Flood / Re: how would you describe your work ethic
« on: December 08, 2015, 08:28:29 PM »
well at least you kinda have a path that you're ready to take, which is good. my ultimate goal is to become a small business owner but i'm always having internal conflicts about my ideas and whether or not i really want to go down this road. plus, there isn't really much i can do to capitalize on my ideas when i don't have the necessary capital or time to start up a business at my age. only thing is that i fear i'll wait too long and graduate college without having a clue on what to do with myself and be left regretting wasting my time in college.

ugh

Yeah, I know what you mean. I wish we could just study whatever our hearts desired, instead of having to take specific courses to get specific jobs. That's what I like about law -- you don't have to get a law degree to be a lawyer. But you're way better at your job if you do. Y'know?

If you have a good enough idea man, run with it. I don't think I could go a few years without a salary, personally. But everyone's different.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 08:24:56 PM »
i honestly got the same impression

if he can't answer the last question i gave him, anyway

Well, we're making some headway if he's admitting we're designed to feel shitty.

Though I know you've been knocking at that door a lot longer than I.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 08:22:09 PM »
Since you can't objectively look at your life, which I guess now is a requirement to be able to choose things, why does anything you say hold merit?

Because I can look objectively at my life and say "Y'know, it would've been a lot better if I had never been born."

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I think it's safe to assume that if such a tyrannical regime came about they would not only have the greatest possible comic book line, but be opposed so fervently that it would not work. The way to get man to fight the best he can is to give him no way out, you'll guarantee that.

Okay, Frank Miller.

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Not to mention, doesn't that go against your whole ideology of consent is everything? If you're at the point where killing people without consent is okay, you're becoming that which you despise.

Consent can be rendered void in certain circumstances. Taking a life to save 100, for example.

I mean, I wouldn't want to forcefully sterilise everyone (i'd rather convince them), but I probably won't shed a tear if our drinking water has purposefully rendered us incapable of reproduction thanks to Ultron or some shit.

And I'm also not killing anyone. Not sure where you got that from "consent-based philosophy."

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The Flood / Re: How many books have you read this year?
« on: December 08, 2015, 08:15:55 PM »
Reading is fucking great.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 08:14:34 PM »
Is it me or did anyone else get the distinct impression that Chally is pretty close to the "anti-natalist sympathiser" stage?

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 08:13:36 PM »
I think this thread is decidedly off topic.

Veganism and anti-natalism go hand-in-hand.

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The Flood / Re: how would you describe your work ethic
« on: December 08, 2015, 08:12:04 PM »
I always find that when i'm searching for motivation to do something, i ask myself, "will this make me happy?"

if i don't like the answer to that question then it's back to square one, where i usually am...

Yeah, I've been lacking a real purpose in life for 4 or 5 years, now. It's not fun.

I have an obligation to my future family to provide for them, so that's where I'm at. Plus, getting a law degree would be salubrious for me regardless of my future. 4 years of studying whatever the fuck I want at Uni (philosophy, theology, psychology, polysci), then 3 years of law school where, if I graduate, I'll get a degree that essentially lands me a job anywhere I want.

It's not going to be a cakewalk, but I'm not dreading it

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 08:08:11 PM »
That's why they can make that choice themselves, and not have it decided by a group that thinks they know what's best for everyone, and that best is having them not exist.

You'll never be able to prove that people will be able to "choose for themselves". Ever. I don't think we'll ever get to that point, personally.

And also, people, once born, are unable to objectively look at their lives.

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Did you miss something? They won't collectively agree on it, individuality is core to every human.

>hypothetical future, majority of people come to the consensus that life is shit and isn't worth it
>a few contrarians are like "lol nah, we ain't doing that"
>forceful sterilisations for everyone

If we ever got to the point where the government was seriously considering the end of our species, I think it's safe to assume they'll have contingency plans.

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The Flood / Re: How many books have you read this year?
« on: December 08, 2015, 08:01:53 PM »
Moby Dick
The World as Will and Representation
Every Cradle is A Grave: Rethinking the Ethics of Birth and Suicide
Common Ground
Lord of the Flies
Catcher in the Rye
Red Letter Christian
The Basis of Morality

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The Flood / Re: how would you describe your work ethic
« on: December 08, 2015, 07:55:58 PM »
Non-existent without meaningful motivation.

For example, I just decided to try for law school because I realised it's a very possible reality that I could be married and have a family in a few years. Which, if you knew me, is really out of left field.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 07:53:14 PM »
But you're not. If you were then you'd be a neo-nazi too.

Raving lunatic.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 07:51:17 PM »
Because perfection is not the bliss you think it is. We're built to need suffering.

And that's somehow... right? We're built to suffer... so lets stop building.

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Exactly. You're the one making an appeal to authority here saying (with zero proof) that there was an intelligent species that died off willingly because they believe in this ridiculous religion of yours.

I think you're confused. I didn't say that factually -- I meant it as a hypothetical.

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Not to mention there's zero proof for a god.

Whatever, you understood my point. It's still an appeal to authority no matter how you slice it.

Not to mention, a lot of these "intellectuals" today probably haven't even encountered the argument, and if they have, they haven't offered it the intellectual respect and consideration it deserves. Kinda like most people on this forum.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 07:47:33 PM »
That can be edited once we reach the technology to do that if we keep moving forward, if the person wants eternal bliss for some reason.

I don't see us ever getting to that point, and I don't think you can even quality that. I do believe there will be a technological ceiling as well.

But I'll play ball. If we ever get to the point in our lives where we can choose our existence... what would be the point? A life without struggle is useless, and a life with struggle is shit. Bliss is the exact same thing as not being born.

And I don't really care if you think your life is better when you struggle -- you shouldn't be allowed to make that decision for anyone else.

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You said most, congrats that means there will still be some, and if they were the only ones to survive, they would spread on because of it.

If the human race ever decided to collectively "die out", we'd sterilise everyone and make sure there were plans in place for the confirmed extinction of our species.

Plus, without a diverse enough gene pool, natural selection will get rid of us quickly enough.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 07:42:13 PM »
But astronomy is a pseudoscience

You're a raving lunatic, tbh.

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and we are far more enlightened than him.

I'm far more enlightened than you, then.

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The Flood / Re: How Is Verbatim A Vegan?
« on: December 08, 2015, 07:40:54 PM »
authority

Gotcha.

I hope I get one of those "Logical Fallacy" calendars for Christmas this year.

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