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3451
« on: June 12, 2015, 03:56:52 PM »
Ugh, I never get to participate in stuff like this.
we've had it scheduled for a while, unless you mean "this is the wrong game i wish we had a different one for game night"
3452
« on: June 12, 2015, 03:56:04 PM »
wtf did batman just sink his teeth in harely quinn
it would appear that this version of kirk langstrom is a vampire
3453
« on: June 12, 2015, 03:52:41 PM »
im ready whenever. ill log on now. are we doing custom games?
Trying to figure out when everyone is ready. Just add me if I haven't already added you. Latsu
I'd like to do customs and stuff but it depends on how many show.
we already have each other added, im fox force five
3454
« on: June 12, 2015, 03:50:24 PM »
ive had it set as eternal nightmare for anarchy
3455
« on: June 12, 2015, 03:49:13 PM »
im ready whenever. ill log on now. are we doing custom games?
3456
« on: June 12, 2015, 03:42:44 PM »
I don't like superhero shit.
> yfw azula is a superhero
3457
« on: June 12, 2015, 03:35:54 PM »
So recently DC and Machinima announced a new animated property from Bruce Timm, Justice League: Gods and Monsters. It is my understanding that there will be 3 "minisodes" introducing the "big 3" characters, Batman/Wonder Woman/Superman, before a movie length feature. The 3 minisodes are all up on Machinima's website now. Episode 1- "Twisted" Here, we get our introduction to this universe's Batman, Kirk Langstrom (Man-Bat). Episode 2- "Bomb" This is our intro to Superman. Episode 3- "Big" Here we meet Wonder Woman, who is Bekka (New Gods) instead of Diana of Themyscira. This is shaping up to be a pretty good installment in DC's lauded animated catalogue, methinks.
3458
« on: June 12, 2015, 03:21:09 PM »
i heard it was awful
3459
« on: June 12, 2015, 12:34:02 PM »
white people. asians would probably do a better job of making life on mars nice, but i'd rather leave them to take care of things here while the white folk bumble around shooting each other and grabbing each other's money on mars
3460
« on: June 11, 2015, 09:33:49 PM »
Fun Fact: Video games are not sports.
theyre not athletic competition, but they fit the classical definition of "sport"
something can be a sporting event without being athletic, like chess
No. Now don' t back talk me again or I'm getting the mop handle.
thats kinky
3461
« on: June 11, 2015, 09:29:46 PM »
Fun Fact: Video games are not sports.
theyre not athletic competition, but they fit the classical definition of "sport" something can be a sporting event without being athletic, like chess
3462
« on: June 11, 2015, 09:27:56 PM »
Look man, you clearly don't want to read it, and no amount of arguing about character depth or realistic plot movement is going to convince you otherwise. Just add this to the list of things you vilify without actually experiencing. it's important that i know precisely what i'm getting into before i get into it
let's not imply that it's a bad thing to gather some preliminary facts about a series and then surmise that i probably wouldn't enjoy it, despite the fact that everyone else seems to
then thats the conclusion we've come to. refer to my post a little bit up the thread for a few short reads in the universe that you might enjoy.
3463
« on: June 11, 2015, 09:19:18 PM »
theres a happy medium you could reach though. there are some short novellas set in the world you could read. The Hedge Knight The Sworn Sword The Mystery Knight The Rogue Prince The Princess and the Queen and then there's a 288 page "history" called The World of Ice and Fire, with a lot of gorgeous original illustrations like this one
3464
« on: June 11, 2015, 09:13:11 PM »
i just don't see how you can justify a story not wrapping itself up as soon as possible
unless you're seriously trying to say that "every paragraph has a purpose"
which is the most ingratiating thing i've ever heard
you're basically calling him perfect, and that's just kinda... laughable
you REALLY think the entire series is exactly how it needs to be?
nothing is perfect, but if perfection is required for you to enjoy something, you're going to be fucking miserable.
3465
« on: June 11, 2015, 09:08:11 PM »
my point is that once you start getting your audience to care about your characters
that's when you start doing shit--that's when tragedy can occur
and then maybe a little bit more tragedy
but eventually (as in, SOON) it resolves itself
it's really difficult to justify anything being so long--REALLY difficult
then by all means, continue to not read the series in this case you might as well just watch the show, but you probably wont like that either
3466
« on: June 11, 2015, 09:03:38 PM »
its not just about "oh i care for this guy now, story over GG nice," thats silly. that's not what i said, though
i dont know what to tell you anymore. you can either read the books or not, its not any concern of mine. ive done all i can to alleviate your concerns re: negative consequences of the length of the series. you will never enjoy a song of ice and fire if you dont just go with the flow and read with an open mind
3467
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:54:04 PM »
and honestly, you'll never enjoy it if you dont go into it with an open mind, willing to let the story take you where it will. again, it isnt for everyone.
3468
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:53:00 PM »
like, turkey even admitted earlier that the books start becoming a slog after awhile
it's like, "okay, author, i already care about this person--you don't need to convince me any further"
that's what it's like
where exactly do you draw the line between "nuance" and "excessive detail"
thats the thing, these characters arent static. theyre dynamic. their mentalities evolve with their experiences. its not just about "oh i care for this guy now, story over GG nice," thats silly.
3469
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:45:49 PM »
and i mean, if youre really that put off by the prospect of a long book, this isnt for you. you need to have a proper attention span to really enjoy this series. its not for everyone. i mean, i've read long books before, and what tends to kill them is that i just lose interest in them after awhile
i don't think it's an attention span thing as much as its my own perception of, "oh, i'm being manipulated into caring about these people, instead of genuinely caring about them"--at that point, i stop, because it's a waste of my time
writing from point of views really helps to create a dynamic relationship between the reader and the character we're following, i think. he does a good job of making the characters nuanced and flawed, and i think this really shines in the tragic characters, of which there are many. the elaborate storylines and worldbuilding really make it all seem alive and beautiful and terrible (in the sense that its eloquently distressing).
3470
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:38:42 PM »
and i mean, if youre really that put off by the prospect of a long book, this isnt for you. you need to have a proper attention span to really enjoy this series. its not for everyone.
3471
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:37:37 PM »
like, in my opinion, you should be able to tell a good story in one book, if it's worth reading at all
harry potter could've been done in three 500-page books, let's be honest
the way this series works is like a classical poem, its separated into acts. act one is the game of thrones, which is A Game of Thrones/A Clash of Kings/A Storm of Swords. Each book has its own contained story but they're all a part of the larger first act of the Song of Ice and Fire. act two is A Feast For Crows/A Dance With Dragons, which happen at roughly the same time in the story continuity and detail the fallout from the War of the 5 Kings/the Game of Thrones and the escalation to act 3, it's a classic act 2 literary strategy. act 3 will be the conclusion, the planned The Winds of Winter/A Dream of Spring.
i get that
but that doesn't really have much to do with their length, does it
he's very descriptive and deliberate with his rhetoric. there arent a whole lot of passages that are unnecessary. everything has a purpose. length isnt an issue
3472
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:35:32 PM »
like, in my opinion, you should be able to tell a good story in one book, if it's worth reading at all
harry potter could've been done in three 500-page books, let's be honest
the way this series works is like a classical poem, its separated into acts. act one is the game of thrones, which is A Game of Thrones/A Clash of Kings/A Storm of Swords. Each book has its own contained story but they're all a part of the larger first act of the Song of Ice and Fire. act two is A Feast For Crows/A Dance With Dragons, which happen at roughly the same time in the story continuity and detail the fallout from the War of the 5 Kings/the Game of Thrones and the escalation to act 3, it's a classic act 2 literary strategy. act 3 will be the conclusion, the planned The Winds of Winter/A Dream of Spring. for what its worth, i finished the entire series in about a month.
3473
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:24:46 PM »
like, i guess people reconcile with the fact that it's still "entertaining", i guess, but like
for me, if i just spent a hundred or so hours watching a show that essentially meant nothing because it's not actually canon
i'd just feel empty inside
I don't know what use there is saying what's canon and isn't. It's all ASOIF, it's all going to end basically the same way. I like it because it gives you different perspectives of the characters, and in a character-driven series like this one, that's very valuable. And as a book-reader, I really don't mind being surprised by episodes now, instead of just mentally checking off a list of book events the show has done.
It reminds me of Fullmetal Alchemist, which has two parallel series which contradict each others' story, but has the same art style, writing style, voice actors, and animation, so it's almost like having twice the content.
im not trying to take away from the show by saying that, but that's just the cold hard truth. it isnt canon. it changes a lot of things. is it still valuable as a work of art, and as a companion piece to a song of ice and fire? absolutely. but it isnt a song of ice and fire. its game of thrones the tv show.
Like I said, I don't see a point to the distinction. Nobody is under the impression that the show is trying to precisely follow the books.
well, verb asked which medium would be better. naturally, because of this schism between the show and books, i would recommend the books. otherwise it doesnt really matter to me. im a fan of both versions of the story
3474
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:22:11 PM »
like, i guess people reconcile with the fact that it's still "entertaining", i guess, but like
for me, if i just spent a hundred or so hours watching a show that essentially meant nothing because it's not actually canon
i'd just feel empty inside
I don't know what use there is saying what's canon and isn't. It's all ASOIF, it's all going to end basically the same way. I like it because it gives you different perspectives of the characters, and in a character-driven series like this one, that's very valuable. And as a book-reader, I really don't mind being surprised by episodes now, instead of just mentally checking off a list of book events the show has done.
It reminds me of Fullmetal Alchemist, which has two parallel series which contradict each others' story, but has the same art style, writing style, voice actors, and animation, so it's almost like having twice the content.
im not trying to take away from the show by saying that, but that's just the cold hard truth. it isnt canon. it changes a lot of things. is it still valuable as a work of art, and as a companion piece to a song of ice and fire? absolutely. but it isnt a song of ice and fire. its game of thrones the tv show.
3475
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:17:22 PM »
the show is a non-canon retelling of the song of ice and fire okay
so i shouldn't watch the show, is what you're saying
i mean, an entire show that's non-canon? fuck, what a waste of a time
the entire show isnt, most of it is kept pretty close to the books in the early seasons.
yeah. the only real changes for much of the show are that most of the exposition happens in dialogue instead of inner monologue, because inner monologues make tv shows really boring
3476
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:12:21 PM »
the show is a non-canon retelling of the song of ice and fire okay
so i shouldn't watch the show, is what you're saying
i mean, an entire show that's non-canon? fuck, what a waste of a time
i mean, the show is pretty good. many of the actors absolutely KILL their roles. peter dinklage, charles dance, sean bean, lena headey, nikolaj coster-waldau, alfie allen, iwan rheon are all great as their respective characters, and some of these actors even redefined the character because of the sheer import of their performances, particularly peter dinklage. however, the books take priority
3477
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:09:29 PM »
why do people have to hate shit that i like, man
3478
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:08:02 PM »
its not that different until season 4/5, but the books and show have always existed in separate continuities
separate continuities
so i'd need to watch both to get the full story? is that what you mean
or is it like... a retelling
the show is a non-canon retelling of the song of ice and fire to get the full story, you need to read the books
3479
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:02:53 PM »
So, just how different is the show compared to the books?
i don't actually care but whatever
Some people in the show die quicker, they skip characters, etc
is it generally regarded as significantly worse compared to the books
because if i were to get into the series, i don't know if i want to be watching a shitty show when i could be reading a decent(?) book
the show is good in its own right but it doesnt compare to the canon material. not even close really
3480
« on: June 11, 2015, 08:02:19 PM »
So, just how different is the show compared to the books?
i don't actually care but whatever
its not that different until season 4/5, but the books and show have always existed in separate continuities
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