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1711
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:14:37 PM »
Oh my god. Semantics.
im honestly baffled that you werent able to clue in on the context for that long.
1712
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:11:28 PM »
the fuck are you even going on about?
How do you define "smart"?
Because you keep saying "Clark has higher intelligence, but Batman knows more."
Okay? But that doesn't make Bruce smarter...
i am going to make this as abundantly clear as i can, so as not to confuse you. a delicate task to be sure, but i will try. SMART=KNOWLEDGE INTELLIGENCE=CAPACITY TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE BATMAN AM DRIVEN GUY, GAIN MUCH KNOWLEDGE, BECOME SMART SUPERMAN HAVE HIGH INTELLIGENCE DUE TO KRYPTON, NOT DRIVEN AND DOESNT BECOME POLYMATH DESPITE HIGH INTELLIGENCE, STILL SMART BUT NOT BATMAN SMART do i need to dumb it down more or
1713
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:06:44 PM »
he has a higher intelligence quotient, a higher capacity for learning. bruce is functionally smarter because he is more driven and devotes his life to being one of the smartest men alive, because he has to be.
Obviously Bruce knows more.
Intelligence > knowledge
the fuck are you even going on about?
1714
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:04:40 PM »
quake live is the best fps on the market rn
1715
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:02:35 PM »
you're needlessly hostile and it gives comic book fans a bad rep. stop.
no, you just need to become receptive to what im telling you.
1716
« on: March 25, 2016, 06:02:03 PM »
How, if he wanted, would Clark not be inherently smarter than Bruce?
i swear its like talking to a fucking wall. he could be smarter than bruce. he just isnt in most incarnations, just due to the way their lives go. my fucking god.
Read my edit. I'm a little distracted at the moment.
Clark is inherently smarter than Bruce.
he (superman) has a higher intelligence quotient, a higher capacity for learning. bruce is functionally smarter because he is more driven and devotes his life to being one of the smartest men alive, because he has to be.
1717
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:59:16 PM »
How, if he wanted, would Clark not be inherently smarter than Bruce?
i swear its like talking to a fucking wall. he could be smarter than bruce. he just isnt in most incarnations, just due to the way their lives go. my fucking god.
1718
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:55:54 PM »
Since when is Gotham right across from Metropolis?
How come Zod can't regenerate from a broken neck. But Superman can regenerate from being exposed to Kryptonite and impaled right through the chest?
i cant think of any other continuities where gotham and metropolis were sister cities across the harbor, but honestly i think its a neat concept. on one side you have metropolis, thriving and alive with postmodern commerce; on the other side is gotham, impoverished, rampant crime and governmental corruption; the principal heroes foil each other thematically just as the cities do in theory.
1719
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:53:30 PM »
is there a compendium for this sort of thing, or what
Not one that I've found. Even now, I don't have a great understanding of it all. Basically, there were a bunch of Earths with different labels (Earth 1, Earth 2, etc.) in different universes called the "Multiverse", and each earth had a different version of each character. After a few story arcs, the number was reduced to one earth, and then after awhile, they went back to a multiverse, and then back to one earth. Over and over again for a few decades.
What ever was considered the "main line" earth is usually fair game to use as evidence, unless otherwise agreed upon before the discussion. I'm not really quite sure what Azumarill is talking about, but he's likely biased because he can then utilise an else-world, never-canon story like TDKR as justification for his ridiculous claim of "Batman>Superman in a fight."
actually, they've officially included their entire comic history in the meta-canon. now, how that applies to movies and tv shows, im sure you could have spirited discussions all over the comic forum community about that, but if it was a comic its in the meta canon.
1720
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:48:37 PM »
What? The Reeves movies were never canon.
It had to be the official, regonised main-line canon of the DCU at one point to be considered "canon" in debates like this. DC's idea of canon is really fucked up.
is there a compendium for this sort of thing, or what
he doesnt know what he's talking about
1721
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:48:02 PM »
thats because youre completely oblivious to how fucking stupid you are
Or you're incapable of supporting statements like "Batman is much smarter than Clark."
Like, he may be a bit smarter than Clark, which is even then, still arguable... but "much" smarter? Lol, no.
bruce wayne, in just about every incarnation i can think of, devoted his life to becoming a polymath. he is consistently mentioned as being one of the smartest people alive in DC continuities. clark has a high IQ but he didnt devote himself to learning the way bruce did.
1722
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:44:34 PM »
because that's what happens in the movie. for no good reason. i always thought it was stupid, too.
the reeves movies suck and i don't like them, fyi
well yeah, but i don't think it matters if we like it or not--it's what happened, and it was canon at one point, so
if we're to go by what you just said earlier, it seems fair game that superman would be able to turn back time
What? The Reeves movies were never canon.
It had to be the official, regonised main-line canon of the DCU at one point to be considered "canon" in debates like this. DC's idea of canon is really fucked up.
its canon within its own universe. you're setting arbitrary rules about what can be considered canon for debates; instead, debate should be centered around specific versions of characters and bound to the rules of the universes they belong to. this is basic etiquette for behavior within comic circles.
1723
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:42:31 PM »
superheroes are serious business guys
we didnt need another retard in this thread but you just had to drop in didnt you
1724
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:40:24 PM »
and people cant fly and there arent aliens that shoot laser beams out of their eyes and are powered by the sun. its fiction, fuck off already
what's your fucking problem.
my problem is with the retarded things you keep saying
I haven't said anything that ridiculous to warrant a "fuck off, already"
thats because youre completely oblivious to how fucking stupid you are
1725
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:38:03 PM »
and people cant fly and there arent aliens that shoot laser beams out of their eyes and are powered by the sun. its fiction, fuck off already
what's your fucking problem.
my problem is with the retarded things you keep saying
1726
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:35:22 PM »
Yeah, he can't do that. The best chance he'd have at going back in time would be to tap into the speedforce like The Flash but he can't do that while a speedster is alive, so...
The world turning the other way a few times doesn't turn back time. He could change the rotation of the earth if he wanted to but that wouldn't magically turn back the clock.
and people cant fly and there arent aliens that shoot laser beams out of their eyes and are powered by the sun. its fiction, fuck off already
1727
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:32:22 PM »
iirc superman can turn back time if he flies around the world a bunch of times
he could just use the cosmic treadmill because he's a speedster in most incarnations. that flying around the world thing was so weird. edit: nvm he doesnt have a connection to the speed force despite being a speedster.
1728
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:26:26 PM »
you've already conceded that there is no one consistent canon to go off of, so like
why don't people realize that these debates are always pointless
why dont you realize that any of the debate you get into are always pointless? sometimes people just want to argue about shit verb
1729
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:25:11 PM »
he's not unbeatable, wtf? in this particular movie maybe that argument has some merit but there are tons of examples throughout history of batman's vulnerability.
That's precisely why Bats vs. Supes fights feel super contrived and silly.
did you ever take them seriously in the first place?
1730
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:24:30 PM »
your narrow definition of "fair fight" unnecessarily excludes a lot of otherwise thematically sound plans that various batmen have developed to deal with superman. also, just one example, he defeats superman in the dark knight returns, and makes it very clear that he actively chose to spare superman's life. If Superman was given the same prep. time as Batman, he'd win. No contest.
batman is much smarter than clark. thats a very stupid way of thinking. im done talking to you.
1731
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:16:12 PM »
Exactly. So this idea that the common man thinking the idea is stupid is not entirely baseless. It is stupid.
Yeah, I tend to agree, and IMO it devalues Batman as an interesting hero for having no powers by making him basically unbeatable.
he's not unbeatable, wtf? in this particular movie maybe that argument has some merit but there are tons of examples throughout history of batman's vulnerability.
1732
« on: March 25, 2016, 05:13:52 PM »
clearly dont understand batman or precedent for conflicts like this in other media.
It is a dumb idea because there isn't a single scenario where Batman could feasibly beat Superman in a fair fight. There aren't many, or any canon (iirc) fights where Batman actually defeats Superman.
your narrow definition of "fair fight" unnecessarily excludes a lot of otherwise thematically sound plans that various batmen have developed to deal with superman. also, just one example, he defeats superman in the dark knight returns, and makes it very clear that he actively chose to spare superman's life. btw there is no single canon for batman or superman properties so please stop talking out of your ass, k?
1733
« on: March 25, 2016, 04:53:49 PM »
You'd think superman would punch batman once and the movie would be over
if you're retarded
To be fair that's how it would probably go down if jerking off Batfags didn't affect the sales of tickets as much as they do.
no, thats only how it would go down if the batman in question is a complete idiot. the whole reason batman is such a good hero is that he's smart as shit and plans for everything. its common in the comics & movies for batman to have contingency plans to take out every justice league hero, including & especially superman. people who look at batman v superman as an idea and say "wow, thats dumb, of course superman wins" clearly dont understand batman or precedent for conflicts like this in other media.
1734
« on: March 25, 2016, 04:47:00 PM »
You'd think superman would punch batman once and the movie would be over
if you're retarded
1735
« on: March 24, 2016, 11:23:33 PM »
ok i saw it tonight and its not as bad as the internet is making it out to be but it isnt necessarily good either i think a 5.5-6/10 is appropriate. there are a lot of good things about it but it felt like the shadow of a much better movie. extraordinarily disappointing.
1736
« on: March 24, 2016, 09:24:03 PM »
Rap in general is shit.
I guarantee you've never listened to a single hip hop record all the way through in your life.
I have. I'm talking about modern rap today mostly.
and you're wrong. hip hop is alive and well and there are plenty of fantastic artists doing important work for the genre. and, just so you know, its obvious that you dont know shit about hip hop when you go around saying things like that.
1737
« on: March 24, 2016, 09:20:23 PM »
not me. i opted in the first day i could and never got into beta. i had previously been invited to the hearthstone beta and the HOTS alpha so that stung. so im like K, never mind then.
So you won't try it because they didn't invite you early?....
I opted in early too, never got in it
basically. i was only marginally interested in the first place; im not much of an FPS guy ever since i joined the PC master race. if they werent willing to let me test the game for them, i guess im not gonna play it.
So you're not gonna buy anymore games unless the devs let you test it?
no, i buy games that im geniunely interested/invested in. i was only going to play overwatch if they let me into the beta or offered it as a f2p. how hard is this to understand?
1738
« on: March 24, 2016, 09:10:21 PM »
not me. i opted in the first day i could and never got into beta. i had previously been invited to the hearthstone beta and the HOTS alpha so that stung. so im like K, never mind then.
So you won't try it because they didn't invite you early?....
I opted in early too, never got in it
basically. i was only marginally interested in the first place; im not much of an FPS guy ever since i joined the PC master race. if they werent willing to let me test the game for them, i guess im not gonna play it.
1739
« on: March 24, 2016, 01:49:35 PM »
not me. i opted in the first day i could and never got into beta. i had previously been invited to the hearthstone beta and the HOTS alpha so that stung. so im like K, never mind then.
1740
« on: March 24, 2016, 10:54:13 AM »
youre all bad
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