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(rather than trying to help them cure it)
I'm not sure what you classify hormone replacement therapy and such if it isn't helping their condition.

What "cures" should transgender people be seeking, O Wise One?
By cure he means seeking mental help to solve their disorder rather than giving into it. He's basically saying instead of society accepting it we should discourage it so these people get mental help for this disorder.   
they already get professional help for it

oh wait it turns out it's easier to just let them transition then to use shock therapy

and before you get all 'b-but that's not what they do at all!', i only compare your proposal to gay conversion because none of you folks ever suggest possible treatments. 'ew trans people get them away'
So because we don't know how we can cure this disease and say wee need to find a cure and should treat it as a disease, you compare us to the crazy people who think they can convert gays or the psychos who use shock therapy?

If anybody's delegitimizing their arguments here, it's you.
you're the ones saying "no don't do that, fix it instead", when there is no known way to fix it
if there was some pill people could take that just poofed dysphoria away, then I'd be all with you
but there isn't, so that's why it's not dumb that people who suffer like that are allowed to transition
Even the ones who "transition" have a high suicide rate.
i'm sure it has nothing to do with the depression and anxiety issues that come along with some of their conditions, compounded by fuck like you being insufferable assholes to them

Nope, it's not that. Definitely not.

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Why is it everybody's so afraid of being disrespectful? Who honestly cares what people like Mad or really anybody else thinks?

You go ahead and be a degenerate, and I'll keep on finding you disgusting and voicing my opinion. It's called not being politically correct cowards trying to destroy people being honest because they don't like their opinion and are too sensitive to hear it.

I think transgenderism is fucking disgusting and I'll be as fucking disrespectful about it as I want to be. I don't give a fuck who says I'm wrong. Just like you shouldn't give a fuck that I find you disgusting. I'm comfortable in my own skin just like these transgenders should be. WITHOUT our acceptance and support.
Not being a shithead to other people for no reason is generally regarded as a decent thing to do. I wouldn't expect you to understand that, though.

You don't have to love the idea of it, but if you don't act like a douche to trans people, let's call that a win.

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(rather than trying to help them cure it)
I'm not sure what you classify hormone replacement therapy and such if it isn't helping their condiditon.

What "cures" should transgender people be seeking, O Wise One?

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requesting lock
isn't that what the report button is for?

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Because it isn't abuse, it's fine to do and isn't disrespectful?
No, but you did kind of lump people who refuse to use the correct pronoun in with abusers, harassers and killers.

At least, it seemed as if you were.
I did, because I was counting things that were disrespectful.

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Continually and purposefully referring to her as the wrong name and gender is not respect.
I don't think that counts as abuse. . .
...Ok? Because it isn't abuse, it's fine to do and isn't disrespectful?

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my response is obviously about Jenner's line about respect, not about the actions of this woman.
Okay, but you still haven't explained the whole 'you're part of the problem' thing.
she's taking about people who harass, abuse, assault, and kill transgender people. We're all humans sharing this planet. We should be treating each other with just a shred a decency. Continually and purposefully referring to her as the wrong name and gender is not respect.

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You'd think with all of the other efforts they've been throug for Cait they'd get her a damn speech therapist lol. It doesn't even sound like she's trying, well maybe she's just so nervous she said fuck it idk.
she probably does have one, but it takes a lot of time and practice to get it right, especially when you've had the same adult voice for over half a century.

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Good job being part of the problem we're trying to fix!
We're part of the problem because we think it's unacceptable to threaten somebody?
my response is obviously about Jenner's line about respect, not about the actions of this woman.

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I head Bruce's voice and had to stop before I ran out of air
Glad to see someone else laughed their ass off. I don't see how anyone could possibly take him seriously.
Changing your voice is pretty fucking difficult. Not sure why you couldn't take her seriously because of her voice. That seems pretty fucking trivial.

Regardless, it's pretty weird seeing someone who appears to be female speaking with a distinctly male voice.
Is it weird? Sure. Are you not used to it? I know I'm not. But her point still stands, and it's pretty fucking disrespectful to continue to call someone the wrong name and gender, especially after a speech about "hey, how about just a little bit of respect?" or "hey, maybe don't be a complete asshole for no reason to people you don't know"

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I head Bruce's voice and had to stop before I ran out of air
Glad to see someone else laughed their ass off. I don't see how anyone could possibly take him seriously.
Changing your voice is pretty fucking difficult. Not sure why you couldn't take her seriously because of her voice. That seems pretty fucking trivial.

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"They deserve our respect"

meanwhile, you fucks miss that point entirely and continue to be disrespectful assholes.

Good job being part of the problem we're trying to fix!

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The Flood / Re: It's that time again...what're you drinking, Sep7?
« on: July 24, 2015, 11:21:17 PM »


Stone is awesome. I was in San Diego doing some stuff last summer and got to visit one of their restaurants. Way overpriced. Great beer.
the escondido one? that's their big one with the restaurant. I wasn't a fan of their bistro and menu, definitely over-priced.

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The Flood / Re: It's that time again...what're you drinking, Sep7?
« on: July 24, 2015, 11:11:07 PM »
The usual.

A friend of mine just got a job as a graphic designer at Stone, so I pretty get all the cases of Stone beers I want for free or cheap.

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Congress legalised gay marriage
Time to learn the 3 branches of the American government again!
Sorry?

If I'm wrong I implore you to correct me. Last I recall Congress passed a bill legalising same sex marriage.
Nope, they haven't done that. SCOTUS struck down state bans on gay marriage as they were in violation of the 14th Amendment.

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Serious / Re: Raise the minimum wage
« on: July 24, 2015, 02:25:25 PM »
Most cinemas around me have had the DIY ticket consoles for years now. There's still plenty of people manning the ticket booths.

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in bef—

oh.

well then.

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What he said about the clothing almost had me laughing. Srsly why the fuck do we donate clothes? The tribal people don't even wear clothes because it's so damn hot out. lol
He was right about everything.
Now picture this. How many churches and religious institutions send donations and shipments of clothing and canned goods to Africa. I know the Catholic church around the corner does. And if one Catholic Church does it I'll bet thousands of other chatholic churches do it as well.
They probably go and build churches. Which is, y'know, super fucking helpful...

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The Flood / Re: Kek. Top. Hot.
« on: July 24, 2015, 12:28:49 AM »
...huh?

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It does not matter. Still you can stop it from happening.
I mean, I can try, but it won't accomplish anything. This is a very religious city dominated by conservatives.

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Serious / Re: Shootpocalypse '15 Continues- Lafayette Edition
« on: July 24, 2015, 12:21:35 AM »
Don't worry, guys. Guns still aren't a problem.

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ended everybody's whole motherfucking career
I don't understand this. Is this a reference to something? I've seen a bunch of you using it here.

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Serious / Re: Where do you get your news?
« on: July 23, 2015, 10:09:38 AM »
Jezebel
This explains a lot honestly. Gawker is the worst. I assume you saw Jezebel defending their outing of a gay man / participation in black mail recently?
I don't think I have ever purposefully visited Jezebel. I was just trying to think of the most liberal sites.

I don't actually get my news from there.

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Serious / Re: Where do you get your news?
« on: July 22, 2015, 09:10:04 PM »
Huffington Post

Jezebel

The Daily Show

Bill Maher

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Serious / Re: Fuck Jeb, let's have Kasich
« on: July 22, 2015, 08:35:43 PM »
OH GOOD MORE REPUBLICANS JUST WHAT WE NEEDED
Do you ever stop being partisan?
No.
It was mostly rhetorical. I already know that you're blinded by ideology.
...Says the guy who thinks economics is everything.

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I wont even bother watching the video.
Ah, wouldn't expect anything else Max. You keep on avoiding those nasty, dissenting opinions like the plague.
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I'm sure Shapiro did nothing wrong and wasn't upsetting Tur at all and being a general douche. I'm sure she lashed out for no reason.

...right?
No actually, he pretty much abdicated Caitlyn/Bruce's gender identity, in which Zoe subsequently threatened to hospitalize him because her sensibilities couldn't handle his viewpoint.

Even if he was being a "douche" that doesn't, and will never, give anyone the right to threaten him with violence.
I didn't bother because there's no point in discussing transgenderism stuff here. It's highly unpopular even with some of you educated folks.

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Serious / Re: Fuck Jeb, let's have Kasich
« on: July 22, 2015, 08:32:19 PM »
OH GOOD MORE REPUBLICANS JUST WHAT WE NEEDED
Do you ever stop being partisan?
No.

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I wont even bother watching the video.

I'm sure Shapiro did nothing wrong and wasn't upsetting Tur at all and being a general douche. I'm sure she lashed out for no reason.

...right?

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Serious / Re: Fuck Jeb, let's have Kasich
« on: July 22, 2015, 07:46:06 PM »
OH GOOD MORE REPUBLICANS JUST WHAT WE NEEDED
Variety is the spice of life.
a dozen choices of the same thing isn't variety.

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Serious / Re: Fuck Jeb, let's have Kasich
« on: July 22, 2015, 07:39:00 PM »
OH GOOD MORE REPUBLICANS JUST WHAT WE NEEDED

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