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Serious / Re: Who was the best and worst President in US history?
« on: September 07, 2014, 09:50:22 PM »
Wait, do people seriously think Obama is one of the worst presidents in US history?
I don't. He really hasn't been necessarily great but he's by far not the worst. Not to mention he's pretty much cockblocked by congress on everything. Overall he's just had to deal with one of the worst congresses in US history.
Yeah. Back in 2008 I was all aboard the Obama hype-train. Now I'm pretty luke-warm about him, but he's far from the worst. The Congress situation sure doesn't help at all.

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Serious / Re: Who was the best and worst President in US history?
« on: September 07, 2014, 09:41:48 PM »
Wait, do people seriously think Obama is one of the worst presidents in US history?

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Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 07, 2014, 09:35:15 PM »
Who wants to go out all dressed up and pay twenty bucks for some bangers and mash?
Um, people who want something better than a frozen burger thrown on the grill?

I thought brits were supposed to be classy and shit. Don't you guys have any nice Italian restaurants and shit?
It's not much of a step up, really.
I'm sure there's plenty of nice eateries in the UK where you don't order at a counter.

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Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 07, 2014, 08:25:04 PM »
Who wants to go out all dressed up and pay twenty bucks for some bangers and mash?
Um, people who want something better than a frozen burger thrown on the grill?

I thought brits were supposed to be classy and shit. Don't you guys have any nice Italian restaurants and shit?

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Serious / Re: If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 07, 2014, 08:13:59 PM »
People should not take the Bible literally for a multitude of reasons.
But then wouldn't people stop believing in God?
Yeah, no

You don't need to conform your beliefs by reading a book. All you need to do to be Christian is to accept God and Jesus Christ as your savior, along with being a decent person and not purposely do bad things. I don't read the Bible, I don't go to church, and I don't pray as much but I know I'm still a Christian. All that stuff is just extra people think they need to do
People wouldn't think God existed if the Bible didn't say so.
Well the Bible, more or less the New Testament, wasn't written when Jesus lived nor was it written right after he died, instead was written around 100 A.D and there were plenty of Christians before the New Testament was ever established.

You're also forgetting that Jews believe in the same God as Christians, they just don't believe Jesus to be the Messiah (God's son/Human incarnation of God). It's the same with the Muslims. It's evident that people have held beliefs in God since 1300 B.C with the establishment of Judaism

What I'm saying is that it's not necessary to read the Bible nor do we need to take it with every grain of salt. Take the biblical cities of Sodom and Gomorrah as an example, there's debate if they ever existed but it can inferred that the cities are metaphors used to represent vice and sodomy
But look at people like Native Americans. They didn't know about Jesus, God, or anyone from the Christian story until the white man showed up. I find it...implausible...that a group like the Native Americans would come to the same conclusion as Christians without the knowledge of the Bible.

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Serious / Re: If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 07, 2014, 08:12:20 PM »
Like kinder said the Bible doesn't actually say that, it is assumed by a lot of people who didn't do proper research.
Regardless of what the Bible does or does not say, people believe this to be true.

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Serious / Re: If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 07, 2014, 06:23:22 PM »
People should not take the Bible literally for a multitude of reasons.
But then wouldn't people stop believing in God?
Yeah, no

You don't need to conform your beliefs by reading a book. All you need to do to be Christian is to accept God and Jesus Christ as your savior, along with being a decent person and not purposely do bad things. I don't read the Bible, I don't go to church, and I don't pray as much but I know I'm still a Christian. All that stuff is just extra people think they need to do
People wouldn't think God existed if the Bible didn't say so.
I have to disagree with you there.
Why's that?

I don't see why someone would organically [for lack of a better term] believe in the Christian God without exposure to the teachings of the Bible.

Yes, most cultures and groups have their own beliefs on deities and/or afterlife, but I'm talking specifically about the Christian God.

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Serious / Re: If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 07, 2014, 05:06:52 PM »
People should not take the Bible literally for a multitude of reasons.
But then wouldn't people stop believing in God?
Yeah, no

You don't need to conform your beliefs by reading a book. All you need to do to be Christian is to accept God and Jesus Christ as your savior, along with being a decent person and not purposely do bad things. I don't read the Bible, I don't go to church, and I don't pray as much but I know I'm still a Christian. All that stuff is just extra people think they need to do
People wouldn't think God existed if the Bible didn't say so.

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Serious / Re: If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 07, 2014, 04:45:18 PM »
People should not take the Bible literally for a multitude of reasons.
But then wouldn't people stop believing in God?

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Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 07, 2014, 03:16:52 PM »
How do people pay with cards at nice restaurants then? Y'know, not places where you swipe your own card like a neanderthal?
You go up, order your food, put your card into the reader, key in your PIN number, remove your card, go sit down and wait for your meal.
No, I'm talking about places where you don't run your own card. Where a server gives you your bill and you place your payment in it. I'm not talking about McDonalds. Places without an ordering counter and shit. Surely those exist outside of America...

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Serious / If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 07, 2014, 03:04:37 PM »
Let us, for a moment, pretend that is true. Assuming there were two humans created to begin the human race, at what rate would they have to reproduce in order for there to be 7 billion people now?

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Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 07, 2014, 02:16:29 PM »
How do people pay with cards at nice restaurants then? Y'know, not places where you swipe your own card like a neanderthal?

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Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 07, 2014, 12:30:43 AM »
I can't remember a time in my life where I stiffed a server on a tip. Even shitty service gets a buck or two from me.

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Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 05, 2014, 11:28:29 PM »
EDIT: to be clear, I don't ever tip.
And you're called an asshole rightfully so. if you don't tip at the take-out counter or don't tip the guy at Wendy's, that's understandable.

if you don't tip someone who just waited on you for 30+ mins, you're a dick.

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Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 05, 2014, 11:27:06 PM »
I always tip well. I know how shitty it can be to work in the service industry.

I tip even more at the bar. Usually 100% on the first drink, and at least a buck each thereafter.

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Gaming / Re: Do you guys like my game give-aways?
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:23:43 PM »
You have game giveaways?!
Yep. Every few days I give away a game.

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Gaming / Do you guys like my game give-aways?
« on: September 05, 2014, 08:58:04 PM »
I know they're not super awesome games, but I like being the cool guy who gives out free stuff.

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Serious / Re: US Air Force requires you to swear to God
« on: September 05, 2014, 06:09:14 PM »
I see you post this in every thread where people have a disagreement.

What exactly do you expect? There are reasonable people that will agree it's a violation of the Constitution then you have the fascists who only want Christians serving in the first place. Of course there's going to be friction. This community never has been mature enough to handle these discussions and it never will be.
Because all it is is the same 4 fucking people throwing shit at each other for no fucking reason.

I thought the whole point of Serious was to avoid this petty bullshit.

It's fucking stupid. All of you need to grow the fuck up and stop being assholes all the time.

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Serious / Re: US Air Force requires you to swear to God
« on: September 05, 2014, 06:02:40 PM »
Quality thread we've got here..

I give up.

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Serious / Re: Is Globalization more Positive or Negative?
« on: September 05, 2014, 04:38:04 PM »
I'd say it's a lot of both, but more positive than negative.

I think globalization is unavoidable. Our reliance on technology requires everyone to be on board, or lose out entirely and fall by the wayside. If we didn't have the internet, cell phones, and emerging markets elsewhere in the world, I would feel differently about globalization, but we live in a global world now where we all rely on each other for a variety of different reasons.

People laugh at the US for it's economic troubles, but if we dropped off the map or cut our ties with foreign countries, they'd take a massive, perhaps unrecoverable, hit. The same goes for most other countries. India. China. UK. etc.

Globalization comes with a myriad of complications, as far as how to navigate business, taxes, politics, etc, also, but I think it's the logical progression.

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Serious / Re: US Air Force requires you to swear to God
« on: September 05, 2014, 03:10:24 PM »
Why shouldn't He be involved?
Because the US is not a Christian nation, and government support of religion is unconstitutional.

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I'd be willing to bet that most people in the armed forces believe in God.
...ok? So they can say "So help me God" at the end if they so choose, but it shouldn't be written into the oath.

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The Flood / Re: Favorite TV show you are currently watching?
« on: September 05, 2014, 02:57:24 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Favorite TV show you are currently watching?
« on: September 05, 2014, 02:47:12 PM »
I'm almost finished watching The Wire

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Serious / Re: US Air Force requires you to swear to God
« on: September 05, 2014, 02:34:24 PM »
Not a big deal at all.

If you want to serve, you need to make sacrifices.
Why does God have to be involved at all? Just leave him out, and it's fine.

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Serious / Re: US Air Force requires you to swear to God
« on: September 05, 2014, 12:46:45 PM »
I just skipped that line during my oath of enlistment...
Apparently it's no longer allowed to be skipped.

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Serious / Re: US Air Force requires you to swear to God
« on: September 05, 2014, 12:21:40 PM »
Like I said on B.net, it's really not that big of a deal.
That's the whole point - you shouldn't have to keep your head down and play along. Whether you're a Christian, Muslim, Jew, atheist, or whatever, you have a constitutional right to NOT have religion forced on you by the government, which is a secular institution.

Christians can just steamroll these things because there's so many of them. The number of people complaining about it is comparatively few.

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Serious / Re: HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT
« on: September 05, 2014, 11:15:19 AM »
This shit doesn't belong in Serious.

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Serious / US Air Force requires you to swear to God
« on: September 05, 2014, 11:13:36 AM »
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An atheist airman at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada was denied reenlistment last month for refusing to take an oath containing “so help me God,” the American Humanist Association said Thursday.

And in a Sept. 2 letter to the inspectors general for the Air Force and Creech, Monica Miller, an attorney with the AHA’s Apignani Humanist Legal Center, said the airman should be allowed to reenlist without having to swear to a deity, and instead given a secular oath. Miller said the AHA is prepared to sue if the airman is not allowed to reenlist.

According to the AHA, the unnamed airman was told Aug. 25 that the Air Force would not accept his contract because he had crossed out the phrase “so help me God.” The airman was told his only options were to sign the religious oath section of the contract without adjustment and recite an oath concluding with “so help me God,” or leave the Air Force, the AHA said.

That is unconstitutional and unacceptable, the AHA said.

“The government cannot compel a nonbeliever to take an oath that affirms the existence of a supreme being,” Miller said. “Numerous cases affirm that atheists have the right to omit theistic language from enlistment or reenlistment contracts.”
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Air Force Instruction 36-2606 spells out the active-duty oath of enlistment, which all airmen must take when they enlist or reenlist and ends with “so help me God.” The old version of that AFI included an exception: “Note: Airmen may omit the words ‘so help me God,’ if desired for personal reasons.”

That language was dropped in an Oct. 30, 2013, update to the AFI. The relevant section of that AFI now only lists the active-duty oath of enlistment, without giving airmen any option to choose not to swear an oath to a deity.

“Reciting ‘So help me God’ in the reenlistment and commissioning oaths is a statutory requirement under Title 10 USC 502,” Air Force spokeswoman Rose Richeson said Thursday. AFI 36-2606 “is consistent with the language mandated in 10 USC 502. Paragraph 5.6 [and] was changed in October 2013 to reflect the aforementioned statutory requirement and airmen are no longer authorized to omit the words ‘So help me God.’ ”

The Air Force said it cannot change its AFI to make “so help me God” optional unless Congress changes the statute mandating it.
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Good job...

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The Flood / Re: Are you a straight edge?
« on: September 05, 2014, 01:30:34 AM »
lolno

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