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10/10 review fam

I agree in pretty much every aspect

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The Flood / Re: HaHaHa
« on: November 22, 2015, 12:57:44 AM »
haha

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Serious / Re: Recent shifts in any of your views? Let's talk about them.
« on: November 21, 2015, 07:24:11 PM »
refugees and the possibility of extremists hiding among them is what prompted me to have a little more faith in the PATRIOT Act and America's ability to keep the people safe.
Even though they were all european nationals

screening for refugees here is already more thorough than you'd think
You don't have to tell me that. Believe me, I know about the 18-24 month long vetting process. I'm not anti-refugee and I've never made any claims that refugees were responsible for the Parisian massacre. All I'm saying is that the existence of America's mass surveillance programs gives me a stronger sense of security. The fact that the 1-2 thousand Syrian refugees who have already entered our country have not committed acts of terror tells me that we're doing something right with regard to both the vetting process and our ability to monitor people within the nation.
If hollow surveillance programs that haven't proven to hinder terrorism yet violate the rights of citizens makes you feel safe then alright.

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Serious / Re: Recent shifts in any of your views? Let's talk about them.
« on: November 21, 2015, 07:19:58 PM »
I'm much more open to the idea that mass surveillance is actually helpful, despite being a unilateral human rights abuse. The recent tensions re: refugees and the possibility of extremists hiding among them is what prompted me to have a little more faith in the PATRIOT Act and America's ability to keep the people safe.
There are no extremists hiding among refugees and even if there were the Patriot Act has nothing to do with the screening of refugees.

Also the Patriot Act hasn't prevented any acts of terrorism since its enactment.

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Serious / Re: Research on angry college people
« on: November 21, 2015, 05:45:17 PM »
Yup

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Serious / Re: Recent shifts in any of your views? Let's talk about them.
« on: November 21, 2015, 03:14:21 PM »
My university has so far been the antithesis of what I was made out to believe people would be acting like. Even the gender studies majors are pretty chill and rational about things. My critical thinking teacher also gave me an A on our final when I just ranted about PC for a couple questions.
where do you go to school?
University of Detroit Mercy. It's a private Jesuit university, so that helps I imagine.
Oh for sure lol

I'm at an east coast public liberal arts university, so the crazies are out in full force here.
I've yet to encounter the dreaded "liberal academia" at my university either, well at least not with the professors. I can't say the same concerning the student body. Most of my history professors have been Republican or center-right. One of the political science professors is actually a libertarian.

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I found this quote to be quite nice and I suppose show the resilience of the Belgian people in lieu of the present situation

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"My wife said not to go out today. But we were invaded by Napoleon and Louis XIV and were occupied eight times. We won't be defeated this time by terrorists," he said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/21/us-france-shooting-belgium-idUSKCN0TA03H20151121

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Gaming / Re: "It's good to be back." | Fallout Megathread
« on: November 21, 2015, 02:56:18 PM »
anyone else encountered the Norwegian raiders yet?

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Gaming / Re: "It's good to be back." | Fallout Megathread
« on: November 21, 2015, 02:55:02 PM »
Aside from sanctuary and taffington boathouse, has anyone found any other locations that are good for water farming?
Warwick Farmstead

Spectacle Island


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"Perched over Brussels stands the massive Palace of Justice, once a shining monument to democratic values, now cloaked for decades in scaffolding so decrepit it has come to symbolize Belgium's neglect for law and order. "

The Palace of Justice always has scaffolding up because it is constantly under construction. This is not because it symbolizes Belgium's neglect for law and order, but that it is the largest court in the world so once they complete one section they have to renovate another.
Yeah I thought that line was quite facetious and unsubstantiated. I think it was just their poor attempt at an analogy of sorts.

I think the analogy in question was a comparison of the scaffolding surrounding the PoJ to be a visual representation of the political and legal dissent between the two autonomous regions of Wallonia and Flanders.
Yeah, the article is pretty BS on several parts.

This is the Brussels Palace of Justice. It is by far the single largest courthouse in the world. Its sheer scale is the reason it's constantly under renovation and construction. I've been there numerous times and unless you've actually seen it, it's pretty impossible to grasp the scale of the thing. It's absolutely massive.



Secondly, our "neglect for law and order"? Not going to deny this link with certain terrorists, but our legal system is pretty good and has served as an example for many other European countries in the last few decades. Like any other country in the world, it definitely has its flaws (as this whole terrorism ordeal shows), but I'm rather content with the legal system, especially after a professor of mine became our latest minister of justice.

Finally, the part on Sharia4Belgium is simply incorrect. Its founder had been under surveillance for years and was already jailed for 2 years in 2012 which directly led to the end of the organization. What the article is referencing is that his jail time was drastically increased earlier this year after having definitively been condemned for inciting terrorism.
That's kind of why I chose to this article to post; in that it all kind of sounded like baseless attacks. Was hoping you'd show up and concur that thought.

Although I do think they may have some credence on the issue of the friction between Flanders and Wallonia causing some hindrances in the political and legal processes. Care to elaborate on that thought?

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"Perched over Brussels stands the massive Palace of Justice, once a shining monument to democratic values, now cloaked for decades in scaffolding so decrepit it has come to symbolize Belgium's neglect for law and order. "

The Palace of Justice always has scaffolding up because it is constantly under construction. This is not because it symbolizes Belgium's neglect for law and order, but that it is the largest court in the world so once they complete one section they have to renovate another.
Yeah I thought that line was quite facetious and unsubstantiated. I think it was just their poor attempt at an analogy of sorts.

I think the analogy in question was a comparison of the scaffolding surrounding the PoJ to be a visual representation of the political and legal dissent between the two autonomous regions of Wallonia and Flanders. Which, I believe, is what the article in question is trying to identify as the causation of the recent security threats.

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Gaming / Re: "It's good to be back." | Fallout Megathread
« on: November 21, 2015, 12:19:22 PM »
Hancock is best girl actually

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http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2015/11/21/paris-attacks-rooted-in-brussels-bring-question-why-belgium

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By RAF CASERT and MIKE CORDER, Associated Press

BRUSSELS (AP) — The family homes of the suspected mastermind of the Paris attacks and one of the suicide bombers stand only a few blocks apart in the Belgian capital's Molenbeek neighborhood. After a string of attacks in recent years linked to its grimy streets in central Brussels, a key question arises: Why Belgium?

The tiny nation renowned for beer, chocolates and the comic book hero Tintin is now suddenly infamous for Islamic extremism — and the easy availability of illegal weapons.

Belgium has a central location in Europe; few border controls; a common language with prime jihadi target France; and a political divide between French and Dutch speakers that has long created bureaucratic disarray in justice and security.

From the prime minister down, there is widespread acknowledgment of a complicated and disjointed national structure that hampers the fight against extremism. "We have to do more and we have to do better," Prime Minister Charles Michel told legislators on Thursday, as he announced a slew of fresh measures to fight Islamic extremism.

For years, there have been calls for more funds to boost the ranks of judges and police, but progress has been slow as rival political camps bickered and austerity measures set in. Meanwhile, the splintering of municipal authority in Brussels and judicial authority nationwide means there's little sense of who's in charge of what in security matters.

Add to that a system in which policemen are often blocked from crossing borders — lacking jurisdiction to work in neighboring countries — while criminals can take advantage of Europe's open border policy, and it becomes clear why Belgium is attractive for terrorists.

"They do shop around for locations where it's easier to be unnoticed, or that your opponents will lose your trail," said Edwin Bakker, director of the Centre for Terrorism and Counterterrorism at Leiden University.

Abdelhamid Abaaoud, a Belgian who was the presumed organizer of the attacks, was killed in a raid Wednesday outside of Paris. Belgium and France are still on a manhunt for Frenchman Salah Abdeslam, a longtime Brussels resident.

Both men grew up in the hardscrabble Molenbeek district, and their family homes stand within a short walk of its main police station. Abdeslam's brother, Brahim, blew himself up in a suicide attack, while another Brussels resident, Bilal Hafdi, also died in a suicide bombing.

On Saturday authorities raised the threat alert for the Belgian capital to the highest level, citing "quite precise information about the risk of an attack like the one that happened in Paris." Heavily armed police and soldiers patrolled key intersections, subways were closed and many stores shut their doors as citizens were encouraged to avoid areas where large numbers of people gather.

Perched over Brussels stands the massive Palace of Justice, once a shining monument to democratic values, now cloaked for decades in scaffolding so decrepit it has come to symbolize Belgium's neglect for law and order. From there, one can look out onto the Midi, a grimy neighborhood that has become a treasure trove for any criminal looking for illegal arms.

Until 2006, Belgium had a very permissive gun law by European standards, and many weapons used in the 1990s Balkan wars easily found their way into the Belgian criminal underworld. At the same time, the Justice Ministry was hurt by austerity measures, rendering it powerless to dig into the root causes of the problem.

"It is relatively easy to get your hands on heavy arms in Brussels," said Brice De Ruyver, a professor of criminology at Ghent University, who was security adviser to the prime minister from 2000 to 2008. "That applies to terror and serious crime. That is because the illegal arms trade has been neglected far too long. ... And once you have a reputation, it is tough to get rid of it."

Molenbeek is separated from Midi by part of a mosaic of jurisdictions of 19 municipalities and 6 policing zones — all for a population of 1 million — which has long hampered cooperation. In comparison, New York, with five boroughs for 8.4 million people, has one police force.

Often municipalities were socialist or liberal fiefdoms with little interest in being swallowed up by a centralized Brussels administration. The number of police zones has been reduced from 19, but the current six is still considered an anachronism given the need to unify forces in combating extremism.

"Talent and manpower are badly spread out over the zone," said De Ruyver. "It is not where we need it most, namely in Molenbeek."

Extremist ideology has also been allowed to thrive due to police neglect. For years, the leader of Islamic radical group Sharia4Belgium directed one of Europe's more potent recruitment machines for fighters in Syria. Yet it was only this year that he was sentenced to 12 years in prison as the leader of what a court determined was a terror group. "Sharia4Belgium has been able to act with impunity for too long," said De Ruyver.

Prime Minister Michel has promised to crack down on radical mosque financing and clandestine places of worship, which have thrived largely because of Belgium's failures in integrating its 650,000-strong Muslim population.

"There is a part of the population that lives in the margins, that doesn't look to have contact," said Molenbeek mayor Francoise Schepmans. "We let it happen."

Many of the weaknesses have been linked to Belgium's complicated linguistic divide. Belgium's 6.5 million Dutch speakers in northern Flanders and the 4.5 million Francophones in southern Wallonia enjoy considerable political autonomy — seen as a way to help keep the country together. However, political appeasement between the groups has often trumped efficiency in decision-making.

"It's a nightmare," Bakker said of the language barriers within law-and-order institutions.

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Gaming / Re: "It's good to be back." | Fallout Megathread
« on: November 21, 2015, 11:35:58 AM »
25 hours clocked and I still don't understand what the Minutemen's aspirations are.

It's pretty obvious that The Railroad want to liberate synths, and the BoS want tech, but the only description we're given for the Minutemen's goals are 'freedumbs.'
Libertarian bait really.
You shut your communist mouth

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The Flood / Re: How many AP's did you take in high school?
« on: November 20, 2015, 10:22:42 PM »
AP Physics and AP Calculus, made a 3 on both of them

Would have taken a lot more but my actual high school didn't offer any AP classes. I took the ones that I did in the Pre-Engineering Academy at the vocation school I went to for half the day.

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The Flood / Re: Favorite news sources?
« on: November 20, 2015, 10:03:32 PM »
The Atlantic is fine when they're not crying into a bowl of oppression soup.
I was surprised that they were actually criticizing the Missouri protesters in a few of their recent articles.

Any one in particular you could link?
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/how-campus-activists-are-weaponizing-the-safe-space/415080/

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The Flood / Re: Favorite news sources?
« on: November 20, 2015, 09:36:45 PM »
The Atlantic is fine when they're not crying into a bowl of oppression soup.
I was surprised that they were actually criticizing the Missouri protesters in a few of their recent articles.

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The Flood / Re: Favorite news sources?
« on: November 20, 2015, 08:53:45 PM »
Reddit has a couple good sources.  Need to get on associated press and Reuters more often.  Anyone know any good economic papers?
http://www.ft.com/home/uk

Financial Times produces some good stuff on economics

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The Flood / Re: Favorite news sources?
« on: November 20, 2015, 05:43:03 PM »
Your mom after I fuck her good.
Really though, this is how I learned of the paris attack.


"Demolish that pussy like the sandniggers demolished the Bataclan Theatre."
Stop

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The Flood / Re: Favorite style of beer?
« on: November 20, 2015, 05:41:47 PM »
Blue Moon is the only "fruity" beer I can tolerate, it's just a flavor I generally don't like to associate with beerf unless it's Redd's which is my go to cheap-o beer

The Belgians are weird

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The Flood / Re: Favorite style of beer?
« on: November 20, 2015, 05:37:58 PM »
Stouts is the only correct answer

Otherwise you're probably gay

Japanese lagers are also good though they're sort of a class of their own

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The Flood / Re: Favorite news sources?
« on: November 20, 2015, 05:27:41 PM »
Bump

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The Flood / Re: I get more attached to characters than real people
« on: November 20, 2015, 04:03:59 PM »
yes

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Serious / Putin can be a good guy when he wants
« on: November 20, 2015, 03:10:23 PM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/20/us-mideast-crisis-russia-france-idUSKCN0T92DK20151120#2L5xzCBCZck2Mwqf.97

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Russian ground crew are inscribing the words "For Paris" on some bombs destined to be dropped on targets in Syria, in a message of solidarity with the victims of last week's Paris attacks.

A video posted online by the Defence Ministry here also shows a serviceman writing "For Our Guys" on a bomb at Russia's Hmeymim airbase.

"Pilots and technicians of Hmeymim airbase have sent their message to terrorists by priority airmail," said a caption accompanying the post.

Russia has intensified strikes on Syrian militants, including from Islamic State, which has claimed responsibility for the attacks that killed 130 people in Paris and for downing a Russian airliner in Egypt last month, killing all 224 on board.

Russian politicians have said the Paris attack underscores the need for the West and the Kremlin to bury their differences and join forces to take on militants in Syria.

(Reporting by Vladimir Soldatkin; editing by Andrew Roche)


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The Flood / Re: WHO THE FUCK IS JOHN MADDEN ANYWAY??
« on: November 20, 2015, 02:40:52 PM »
sports commentator you dip

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Septagon / Re: Unlock 🔓 All Too Easy: Episode III
« on: November 20, 2015, 02:32:19 PM »
OPs should NOT be able to request locks
yeah they should

in fact, they shouldn't have to request a lock--OPs should be able to lock it themselves
That's very libertarian of you verby-chan

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The Flood / Re: Share your wordly advice
« on: November 20, 2015, 02:30:51 PM »
This isn't mine, but it's a good tale to think on all the same.

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Once upon a time there was a man who strayed from his own country into the world known as the Land of Fools. He soon saw a number of people flying in terror from a field where they had been trying to reap wheat. "There is a monster in that field," they told him. He looked, and saw that the "monster" was merely a watermelon.

He offered to kill the "monster" for them. When he had cut the melon from its stalk, he took a slice and began to eat it. The people became even more terrified of him than they had been of the melon. They drove him away with pitchforks, crying, "He will kill us next, unless we get rid of him."

It so happened that shortly afterward another man also strayed into the Land of Fools. But instead of offering to help the people with the "monster," he agreed with them that it must be dangerous, and by tiptoeing away from it with them he gained their confidence. He spent a long time with them in their homes until he could teach them, little by little, the basic facts which would enable them not only to lose their fear of melons, but eventually to cultivate melons themselves.

It's a little bit like the 'You can give a man a fish' story, but applied more to the fear of the unknown. Rushing in and 'solving' the problem for people doesn't really help in the long run, teaching them to solve it themselves does.

Very true, but then again you have to think who gives you the right to solve peoples fear of melons? Maybe it is better for the inhabitants of the Land of Fools to figure this out in their own time?

Or then again you could just call them retarded and walk away.
Well you could, but then the fools may starve to death.

To which you should ask yourself, is their foolishness is enough to cause you to lose compassion for other living creatures?
Yes

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le kebab remove man getting indicted for taking part in genocide :DDDDD

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