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Gaming / Re: My blood is fucking boiling
« on: January 17, 2015, 04:34:46 PM »
>playing halo 4


What's wrong with playing a fantastic game? It's not like he was playing the awful Reach abomination.
A decree from the office of the sultanate proclaimed that in accordance to 34 different scriptual readings by scholars, Halo 4 was deemed Haram. But not just haram, Absolutely Haram. To play Halo 4 is to go against Allah's will as decreed by the ayatollah himself.

Haram must mean big female booties.

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Camnator, keep your posts clean and on-topic. This is Serious, so we try to act like it.
The rest of you, if you feel like he's baiting, the only winning move is not to play.

No need to target me, especially when I wasn't the one that started it. You can get over your bias. I have no problem keeping my posts clean as long as everyone else does.

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Clinton only increased the debt, what are you talking about? He increased it by trillions.




To add to that, Clinton left us with a $200 BILLION surplus.

Which only means he didn't use all of the money that was stolen. That's not some achievement, he still left with the debt much higher.

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Clinton only increased the debt, what are you talking about? He increased it by trillions.




EDIT: Replaced it with a more accurate graph, representing the debt-to-GDP ration properly.

Exactly, he still increased the debt.

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The Flood / Re: I Need Ideas
« on: January 17, 2015, 04:25:42 PM »
Your own concentrated ignorance.

There would be nothing for me to lick. Perhaps I could concentrate your obsession.

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Started long before Roosevelt.
Looking at the similarities between Teddy and Woodrow Wilson--not really. Of course there were differences, the Republican Party was founded in direct opposition to the Democrats, but the divergence was nowhere near as substantial as they have been in recent years.

It's been a process. Think of the analogy of putting a frog in boiling water and it just jumped out, yet, when you slowly raise the temperature they sometimes stay in and boil to death. They have slowly been working together to degrade liberty gradually for over a century now. Pretending to fight while loving the increase of power. The issues they pretend to care about have simply become more meaningless over time.

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It HAS failed, did you seriously not see our debt?
Again, if you're worried about the debt you should be campaigning for fiscal responsibility, not monetary restraint. How are we going to pay back the national debt in a dead economy? It's not possible. If monetary stimulus can revive aggregate demand and kick the economy back in gear, we might be able to pull off what Clinton did in the 1990s and bring the debt back under control. Not with people like you, though, sacrificing the recovery.

It's impossible to pay off the massive debt. Period. That literally destroys your own argument. You have to spend within your means, regardless if you're a household, business or country. Clinton only increased the debt, what are you talking about? He increased it by trillions. People like you make progress impossible. You've been duped by the same people controlling you, and nothing will convince you. You'll cling to that lie.

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The Flood / I Need Ideas
« on: January 17, 2015, 08:14:32 AM »
I need new substances to lick off of big female booties. I have done mustard, whipped cream, steak sauce, Nutella and cheesecake among a few others. Keep in mind I'm vagetarian. Good night! I look forward to useful suggestions!

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Started long before Roosevelt. The democrats and republicans are both only good at one thing, and that is proving how incompetent the other side is.

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The Flood / Re: ITT: Try to describe colors to a blind person
« on: January 17, 2015, 08:08:37 AM »
White is milk booty, black is chocolate milk booty

What the fuck, how high are you
Not high, he's just incoherent.

You mean perfectly coherent.

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Except I know exactly what I'm talking about which is why you can't even make an argument and have no idea what you're talking about.
You haven't said a single thing this entire thread which makes any economic sense.

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You fantasize and imagine yourself being intelligent over most of the other losers here, some major accomplishment that is, when in reality you're just another pathetic squirt that wants to be special and whore attention on internet forums because your life is that miserable.
My life's actually all right, thanks. I know I'm more intelligent than most of the other people here when it comes to economics, but I've no doubt people like Turkey have me on mathematics, Icy has me on current affairs--et cetera.

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Your entire argument is invalid because the very fabric of it does not work. The economy of the world has already failed, and it will never be corrected without completely starting anew.
That's some grade-A fear-mongering you've got there. If this is true, why didn't monetary easing ruin the economy in the 1930s? Or even in 1987? You've had, essentially, 70 years to play with to demonstrate your hypothesis and you've sorely disappointed.

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I know you will never accept the truth and will continue remaining in your cognitive dissonance as always.
Well now you've just gone incoherent.

Do you want to walk away from this like a man, Cam, or do you want me to absolutely rupture your anus some more and reveal your shocking ignorance of the things you choose to discuss?

You just completely contradicted yourself there, hypocrite. You're the one encouraging making money out of nowhere to destroy the future generations, so the thought of you telling anyone how much sense they have is just hilarious. Everything I've said has been completely true.

You give yourself far too much credit.

It HAS failed, did you seriously not see our debt? We are rapidly declining which is why we fight meaningless war after criminal war and are infringed upon in virtually every way. The government is nothing more than tyrannical bullies that use the threat of force to keep people at bay. The entire world is on the edge of collapse and this species will likely destroy itself soon. That's what I mean when I say you're so far behind I just shake my head at your primitive thoughts. there was a time when we had sound money, that time will never come again at the rate we're going.

You're only humiliating yourself here, kiddo.

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The Flood / Re: ITT: Try to describe colors to a blind person
« on: January 17, 2015, 08:01:52 AM »
White is milk booty, black is chocolate milk booty

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I don't care about money demand
Well that just tells me all I need to know, to be honest.

Rejecting an entire part of the M x V = P x Y equation isn't going to lead you to a good understanding of monetary economics. But everybody here already knows you have no idea what you're talking about, and base all of you political views on Stefan Molyneux's videos.

Except I know exactly what I'm talking about which is why you can't even make an argument and have no idea what you're talking about. You fantasize and imagine yourself being intelligent over most of the other losers here, some major accomplishment that is, when in reality you're just another pathetic squirt that wants to be special and whore attention on internet forums because your life is that miserable. Your entire argument is invalid because the very fabric of it does not work. The economy of the world has already failed, and it will never be corrected without completely starting anew. You're so far behind in understanding you don't even realize it. I genuinely feel sorry for your simple mind. Enjoy your delusions, though. At least all of the other obsessed fools on here will give you support. I know you will never accept the truth and will continue remaining in your cognitive dissonance as always. Of course you would make things up about me because I prove you wrong and embarrass you.

>Trolling this hard in Serious.

Thanks for confirming you're both delusional. Maybe you can stop being obsessed one day.

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Gaming / Re: My blood is fucking boiling
« on: January 17, 2015, 07:55:42 AM »
>playing halo 4


What's wrong with playing a fantastic game? It's not like he was playing the awful Reach abomination.

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The Flood / Re: I'm the admin; ask me anything.
« on: January 17, 2015, 07:44:48 AM »
What made you decide to have a botched lobotomy?

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And the government controls quantitative easing, I've already told you there are many problems, and they are all connected. The people DON'T control money at all, that has been my entire point.
Except we're talking about money demand at the moment. . . Which quantitative easing responds to.

It's like you haven't been reading the thread, or you don't understand economics.

Probably both.

You only think that because you are the confused one here that can not see the entire scenario. I don't care about money demand, I care about problems and desire actual solutions to them that won't make things worse. It's blatantly obviously you have no grasp of economics which is why you're not even beginning to see reality here. You're lost, we saw that when you defended and encouraged a system that literally robs from you and presumes you are owned by the State. I am actually stunned anyone has your mindset.

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The Flood / Re: Regarding Kiyo
« on: January 17, 2015, 07:38:02 AM »
Fine. You folks keep holding your fucking grudges. Not my fucking business. The past isn't either because I wasn't around for it. And once again none of you seem to fucking get it.
"the past"

You mean fucking yesterday?

Well considering it's yesterday, you're damn fucking right it's the past. It's done and over with now to be sure.
Yep. Time to let it go, Sandtrap.

You remember when Dusty boy single handedly sunk the fundraiser a friend of mine set up over at Bungie? It took me a day to cool my shit off. One day, and things were back to normal.

I acknowledge that dusty boy is spiteful grudge holding sack of old sacks and that he's a "troll." But I hold no ill will and don't go out of my way to attack him. It took me one day to get over the fact that he wandered over there and sunk a thread.

I don't hold grudges. Not for long. And either should you folks.

But it's your choice. See where it fucking gets you. Toxicity breeds more toxicity. Just you fucking watch.
>accusations

This was Cheat's decision. Take it up with him. Don't drag the rest of us into your bullshit.

I won't. But considering that there's still worse folks wandering around here, and the way this community treats people, both people inside the community, and newcomers, is a tell of what's going to happen in the future. This place is not a welcoming place.

It's not a welcoming place for people who've been here for a while because you get drama and shit like this. And it's not welcoming for outsiders because the community itself is inherently hostile on almost every level. So shit's a mess now. Well, actually it isn't. Not for you folks. Kiyo is long gone at this point. And unfortunatly for me I'm her friend and I'm damn worried about what's up on her end of things now. So that's my business now. Keep an eye out and make sure things are okay and help if I can because I can tell she's in a really bad way right now.

And as for this place? Well, just you wait. Mark my fucking words. This has nothing to do with this latest batch of drama. This has to do with the fact that overall and in general, this place is hostile on all fronts. And just like Kiyo getting what she put out, this place will too.

And, like Kiyo, it has good sides. But it's going to fall apart. This place has made that abundantly clear by now.
If there's one thing I've learned...it's that to not get eaten alive here you gotta just be loose and not take everything so seriously. Otherwise you'll just get eaten alive. Honestly, if you're able to just let go and stop letting what people say about you get to you, it stops being as horrible as you're saying it is.

I actually have a lot of fun here. I know a lot of others would agree.
Yeah there's dumb drama and some people can be annoying and hostile as hell *cough cough* stupid post from a certain someone who was banned not to long ago *cough* but again if you just stop taking things so personally it stops being so hard to handle things.

Needless to say, it's not for everyone.

We get it, you're obsessed. You created some of the most drama on here. You're the hostile one, and you find others annoying because they humiliate you. Some pathetic ban I received is irrelevant, and only reflects how awful the site can be.

Cam, you're back! ^.^

And it's about dang time! How have you been?!

Pretty good. Found something you may be interested in;
http://www.haloarchive.com/thelibrary/2014/11/4/is-halo-wars-2-on-the-horizon

It NEEDS to happen.

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I do when it works and is regulated by free people, not tyrannical entities that constantly abuse us.
Okay you really don't understand money demand. Money demand is regulated by the people.

And the government controls quantitative easing, I've already told you there are many problems, and they are all connected. The people DON'T control money at all, that has been my entire point.

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The Flood / Re: Hehe
« on: January 17, 2015, 07:35:10 AM »
Nugtella

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The Flood / Re: Hello my Darlings
« on: January 17, 2015, 07:34:08 AM »
Howdy!

Halo Wars

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The Flood / Re: For anyone choosing to get butthurt about me
« on: January 17, 2015, 07:32:24 AM »
Nice post. I definitely don't let the losers bother me.

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The Flood / Re: An honest appraisal of my situation.
« on: January 17, 2015, 07:30:52 AM »
shudda' smoked that danke kush instead.

Booty

The big female kind, which is the only kind.

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The Flood / Re: Regarding Kiyo
« on: January 17, 2015, 07:26:26 AM »
Fine. You folks keep holding your fucking grudges. Not my fucking business. The past isn't either because I wasn't around for it. And once again none of you seem to fucking get it.
"the past"

You mean fucking yesterday?

Well considering it's yesterday, you're damn fucking right it's the past. It's done and over with now to be sure.
Yep. Time to let it go, Sandtrap.

You remember when Dusty boy single handedly sunk the fundraiser a friend of mine set up over at Bungie? It took me a day to cool my shit off. One day, and things were back to normal.

I acknowledge that dusty boy is spiteful grudge holding sack of old sacks and that he's a "troll." But I hold no ill will and don't go out of my way to attack him. It took me one day to get over the fact that he wandered over there and sunk a thread.

I don't hold grudges. Not for long. And either should you folks.

But it's your choice. See where it fucking gets you. Toxicity breeds more toxicity. Just you fucking watch.
>accusations

This was Cheat's decision. Take it up with him. Don't drag the rest of us into your bullshit.

I won't. But considering that there's still worse folks wandering around here, and the way this community treats people, both people inside the community, and newcomers, is a tell of what's going to happen in the future. This place is not a welcoming place.

It's not a welcoming place for people who've been here for a while because you get drama and shit like this. And it's not welcoming for outsiders because the community itself is inherently hostile on almost every level. So shit's a mess now. Well, actually it isn't. Not for you folks. Kiyo is long gone at this point. And unfortunatly for me I'm her friend and I'm damn worried about what's up on her end of things now. So that's my business now. Keep an eye out and make sure things are okay and help if I can because I can tell she's in a really bad way right now.

And as for this place? Well, just you wait. Mark my fucking words. This has nothing to do with this latest batch of drama. This has to do with the fact that overall and in general, this place is hostile on all fronts. And just like Kiyo getting what she put out, this place will too.

And, like Kiyo, it has good sides. But it's going to fall apart. This place has made that abundantly clear by now.
If there's one thing I've learned...it's that to not get eaten alive here you gotta just be loose and not take everything so seriously. Otherwise you'll just get eaten alive. Honestly, if you're able to just let go and stop letting what people say about you get to you, it stops being as horrible as you're saying it is.

I actually have a lot of fun here. I know a lot of others would agree.
Yeah there's dumb drama and some people can be annoying and hostile as hell *cough cough* stupid post from a certain someone who was banned not to long ago *cough* but again if you just stop taking things so personally it stops being so hard to handle things.

Needless to say, it's not for everyone.

We get it, you're obsessed. You created some of the most drama on here. You're the hostile one, and you find others annoying because they humiliate you. Some pathetic ban I received is irrelevant, and only reflects how awful the site can be.

Cam, you're back! ^.^

And it's about dang time! How have you been?!

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such as why demand is changing and whether or not the changes are either productive or handled correctly
I don't think you understand money demand. . .

I do when it works and is regulated by free people, not tyrannical entities that constantly abuse us.

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I don't see how you are confused.
I'm not, you are.

The value of money doesn't change when demand increases proportionally with supply. It's the same for anything else in the economy. If you increase the demand for tomatoes 100pc and then increase supply 100pc, it'll remain the same price.

Not at all.

You're still not considering many variables, such as why demand is changing and whether or not the changes are either productive or handled correctly, which in most cases does not. Not to mention the massive abuse. It's why we're at where we are currently. We're living a joke.

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. . .
I've already told you the money isn't necessarily going to be worth less because of the interaction between supply and velocity. I've already told you that the high levels of debt are caused by government spending from around 2000 onward.

The only person who needs to read the conversation is you.

I've read it just fine, and the debt has been a problem long before 2000. Of course money will be worth less when you create a bunch of ghost money. It not only has interest attached, but devalues the rest of the currency. This is economics 101, which goes back to my common sense stance. I don't see how you are confused.

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There are plenty of other problems with money that this would only make worse.
Again, when you want to stop espousing bullshit and present something solid, I'll be here.

I already have, had you actually read the conversation rather than accusing others of spouting BS when you're the only one doing so.

Basically, I guess common sense would have been enough for the argument. If you think you need to create more money that means there is a problem, a problem that is only going to be made worse when your money becomes even less valuable.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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I mean, you're literally saying we can solve problems by creating more money.
I'm saying we can solve the problems associated by tight money with more expansionary money.

I'm not going to argue for more money creation when we're sitting at 4.5-5pc nominal income growth--that would cause serious inflation. And everybody know serious inflation is a bitch.

There are plenty of other problems with money that this would only make worse.

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and I intend to address the source of the problem.
I'll be waiting for you to actually do that, instead of spouting pseudo-economic bullshit like you are now.

The only BS is your own. I mean, you're literally saying we can solve problems by creating more money. The lack of understanding of basic economics from so many people is exactly why no real solutions are being taken. I can't get things done when no one is actually willing to make a legitimate difference.

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What demand for money?
Yes, you could have a huge increase in the monetary base and have no effect on inflation or spending if demand is proportionally as large.
 

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They've been printing money long before that which is all the same. It's caused us nothing but problems.
Despite the fact that it helped Britain's economy in 1933, America's in 1987 after the stock-market crash and both of those countries in 2009 and onwards. What your saying is essentially "We had a serious Recession which was caused by a tight monetary policy, and in response to that we should keep money tight". I mean, come on, even Hayek wanted to stabilise what he called the "nominal income stream" (nGDP) with monetary policy if it were necessary.

I mean, this is what good monetary policy looks like:


That is monetary easing almost two orders of magnitude bigger than the Federal Reserve's, and Sweden has seen a decent recovery. Where does their inflation lie now? A measly 1pc.

The problem is when a corrupt entity has control.

There are countless variables you're not considering, like the massive harms this has caused. Collapsing entire empires. It's not a solution to a problem, it delays the problem and makes it worse. It's a fantasy that just further burdens children. I'm saying there are many reasons we're having problems, and I intend to address the source of the problem.

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