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« on: January 19, 2015, 10:28:24 PM »
I was on topic in a thread, Rocket came in being irrelevant, then threatened to warn me. Did everyone that insulted me in Serious also get warned? Why don't I get the 15 warnings before an action? Keep showing how pathetic the site is. http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=24182.0
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« on: January 19, 2015, 10:27:42 PM »
Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals
Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.
I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.
Now, back on topic please.
What you expect is constantly changing. Also, I have at least provided proof of my claims. Even if someone wasn't, how is that hindering anyone else from having a conversation? That makes no sense, especially when you can mute them and not have to look at their posts at all. Your comment was the only one here not on topic. Glorious.
Provide links, articles, charts, something more than simply your own views.
The type of discussion you are having is simply baiting other users and calling them wrong.
If the trolling and derailing continues, you will get a warning.
I did, which you'd know had you actually read this thread. I've explained how they are wrong.
Thanks for admitting you're delusional. Trolls are mythical creatures and you are the only one here derailing the thread, which isn't even a locomotive in the first place. Also, will this be my first of 18 warnings like everyone else get, or is it just going to be more bias?
You've gone off the rails -____-
You tried to explain your points, and they were promptly refuted. Calling me "delusional" isn't helping your case.
the only one refuted here was yourself, which is why even you admitted you were wrong earlier.
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« on: January 19, 2015, 10:25:38 PM »
It's really obvious who does and does not understand transgenderism and related trans issues.
If you don't know what you're talking about, it's generally a good idea not to debate about it.
This isn't a debate, it's a discussion. Transgenders who embrace the disorder are sick. They have no place in a civilized society.
And how does someone being transgender negatively affect anybody else?
Something doesn't have to affect others to be sick or idiotic. Transgenders have a disorder, simple as that, and it should be treated, not embraced.
If it doesn't affect you in any way, why do you care? What possible purpose would it serve other than wasting society's time?
And why do I care? The main reason is that I'm a somewhat ethical person.
Either this is bait or you're really that deplorable. ._.
The rest of your argument completely contradicts that, though. If you were ethical, you really wouldn't care. It has nothing to do with you, does not affect you or anyone else in any way... it's completely unethical to punish something that's harmless and morally acceptable.
HAAHAHAHAA!!! You just said cops are fine when they arrest people for cannabis! Dang, sometimes you people amaze me at how quickly you prove yourselves wrong.
That's completely irrelevant, and not to mention incorrect.
It's more than relevant, as it discredits you as a hypocrite since you contradicted yourself. It's not at all incorrect, either. These are direct quotes from you... "it's completely unethical to punish something that's harmless and morally acceptable." "Regardless of whether it's unjust, they're not necessarily wrong for doing their jobs unless it strongly violates moral boundaries or their own conscience." "Arresting someone for having drugs is hardly deplorable compared to, I don't know, beating peaceful protesters with nightsticks" Thanks for making it easy.
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« on: January 19, 2015, 10:22:20 PM »
If you feel like a girl you can be a girl, and vice versa.
Now, what about people like me? I feel like a robot and the fact that I can't be a robot is seriously triggering me right now.
Big robot booty
AYY
Too small
455
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:21:19 PM »
Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals
Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.
I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.
Now, back on topic please.
What you expect is constantly changing. Also, I have at least provided proof of my claims. Even if someone wasn't, how is that hindering anyone else from having a conversation? That makes no sense, especially when you can mute them and not have to look at their posts at all. Your comment was the only one here not on topic. Glorious.
Camnator, you haven't provided any proof at all, and then you belittle other users for their rebuttals. That is not appropriate behavior for this board.
I have provided proof, and nearly everyone here belittles everyone, yes, even you. When the behavior of the board is set in stone and not such a joke then I shall acknowledge it. Just as I never followed any unjust cannabis laws, I also don't follow any nonsensical rule that can't even be enforced evenly. You offered no rebuttal, you only proved yourself wrong.
It wasn't one instance of corruption, these things in the video happen nearly every day.
Regardless of how you feel about the (very reasonable) rules of this board, you are still obligated to follow them.
And I will, just as soon as everyone else is under the same obligation. In the meantime, I won't force myself to be the only one that actually follows the rules. If I have to be unjust banned for a third time, so be it, but I won't appease any losers. Go ahead and just ban me so I don't have to see the pathetic stupidity anymore.
456
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:20:03 PM »
Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals
Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.
I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.
Now, back on topic please.
What you expect is constantly changing. Also, I have at least provided proof of my claims. Even if someone wasn't, how is that hindering anyone else from having a conversation? That makes no sense, especially when you can mute them and not have to look at their posts at all. Your comment was the only one here not on topic. Glorious.
Provide links, articles, charts, something more than simply your own views.
The type of discussion you are having is simply baiting other users and calling them wrong.
If the trolling and derailing continues, you will get a warning.
I did, which you'd know had you actually read this thread. I've explained how they are wrong. Thanks for admitting you're delusional. Trolls are mythical creatures and you are the only one here derailing the thread, which isn't even a locomotive in the first place. Also, will this be my first of 18 warnings like everyone else get, or is it just going to be more bias?
457
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:17:27 PM »
Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals
Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.
I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.
Now, back on topic please.
What you expect is constantly changing. Also, I have at least provided proof of my claims. Even if someone wasn't, how is that hindering anyone else from having a conversation? That makes no sense, especially when you can mute them and not have to look at their posts at all. Your comment was the only one here not on topic. Glorious.
Camnator, you haven't provided any proof at all, and then you belittle other users for their rebuttals. That is not appropriate behavior for this board.
I have provided proof, and nearly everyone here belittles everyone, yes, even you. When the behavior of the board is set in stone and not such a joke then I shall acknowledge it. Just as I never followed any unjust cannabis laws, I also don't follow any nonsensical rule that can't even be enforced evenly. You offered no rebuttal, you only proved yourself wrong. It wasn't one instance of corruption, these things in the video happen nearly every day.
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« on: January 19, 2015, 10:15:14 PM »
It's really obvious who does and does not understand transgenderism and related trans issues.
If you don't know what you're talking about, it's generally a good idea not to debate about it.
This isn't a debate, it's a discussion. Transgenders who embrace the disorder are sick. They have no place in a civilized society.
And how does someone being transgender negatively affect anybody else?
Something doesn't have to affect others to be sick or idiotic. Transgenders have a disorder, simple as that, and it should be treated, not embraced.
If it doesn't affect you in any way, why do you care? What possible purpose would it serve other than wasting society's time?
And why do I care? The main reason is that I'm a somewhat ethical person.
Either this is bait or you're really that deplorable. ._.
The rest of your argument completely contradicts that, though. If you were ethical, you really wouldn't care. It has nothing to do with you, does not affect you or anyone else in any way... it's completely unethical to punish something that's harmless and morally acceptable.
HAAHAHAHAA!!! You just said cops are fine when they arrest people for cannabis! Dang, sometimes you people amaze me at how quickly you prove yourselves wrong.
459
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:13:15 PM »
460
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:09:08 PM »
Banned.
She's not a user here.
461
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:06:53 PM »
Two men kissing isn't inherently disgusting. To you.
Booty
462
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:06:24 PM »
If you feel like a girl you can be a girl, and vice versa.
Now, what about people like me? I feel like a robot and the fact that I can't be a robot is seriously triggering me right now.
Big robot booty
463
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:05:45 PM »
ITT: DAS wins so hard that everyone ignores him.
I feel like Rocketman.
Let the record show that Hank Hill really knows his pornography.
464
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:04:11 PM »
I don't want diseased people to be able to walk around, untreated, living their life as a delusion. The second, more vain reason, is that TGs are just repulsive. I should be able to walk up to the store without feeling the need to lose my lunch every time I see a tranny.
Ladies and gentlemen, the definition of transphobia.
You're equally as bigoted. The irony is hilarious.
465
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:03:01 PM »
466
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:01:52 PM »
Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals
Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.
I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.
Now, back on topic please.
What you expect is constantly changing. Also, I have at least provided proof of my claims. Even if someone wasn't, how is that hindering anyone else from having a conversation? That makes no sense, especially when you can mute them and not have to look at their posts at all. Your comment was the only one here not on topic. Glorious.
467
« on: January 19, 2015, 09:59:38 PM »
Cheat, can I be Isara?
Fine.
Booty
468
« on: January 19, 2015, 09:59:14 PM »
Shame, now he has to bane you for calling him out in a thread. He was just about to do it, too. You blew it.
469
« on: January 19, 2015, 09:58:34 PM »
 This would make for a pleasant snack. How long would you savor the flavor?
470
« on: January 19, 2015, 09:54:49 PM »
If SecondClass had to pick between being born transgendered or born with harlequin ichthyosis, which would he choose? Or would they both be equally horrible? What the fuck? Obviously transgender, I just wouldn't be an idiot and try to embrace my disease, I'd get it cured.
Don't act all offended; it was more of a rhetorical question. Obviously you would rather be transgendered. Point being, how do you quantify how "bad" a defect is? I'm not even arguing with you, I'm just gathering information right now. I'd like to try to understand the perspective of what I consider to be... toxic bigotry.
The more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.
Actually, it isn't, but you wouldn't know that.
Many trans people opt to not have the surgery.
Like I said in the other thread, I have nothing but respect for TGs who don't feed the delusion and get a gender change. If they're actually trying to help themselves, they're dealing with their condition correctly.
Don't lie. You literally have no respect for any trans people considering how you've been posting about them.
I'm not lying. You're born the way you're born. Whether you're black, gay, autistic, or transgender, you can't help what cards you're dealt. What you can do is work to better yourself. And submitting to your mental disorder isn't bettering yourself, it's making the situation worse. If you're unlucky enough to be born as a TG, I have nothing but sympathy for you until you decide to be an idiot and worsen your condition.
I wonder if they also believe a black person can be white if they believe hard enough.
471
« on: January 19, 2015, 09:53:58 PM »
If SecondClass had to pick between being born transgendered or born with harlequin ichthyosis, which would he choose? Or would they both be equally horrible? What the fuck? Obviously transgender, I just wouldn't be an idiot and try to embrace my disease, I'd get it cured.
Don't act all offended; it was more of a rhetorical question. Obviously you would rather be transgendered. Point being, how do you quantify how "bad" a defect is? I'm not even arguing with you, I'm just gathering information right now. I'd like to try to understand the perspective of what I consider to be... toxic bigotry.
The more it affects you, the worse it is. Transgenderism's eventual result (if followed through completely) is the surgical changing of your sex. That's pretty affecting.
Actually, it isn't, but you wouldn't know that.
Many trans people opt to not have the surgery.
Like I said in the other thread, I have nothing but respect for TGs who don't feed the delusion and get a gender change. If they're actually trying to help themselves, they're dealing with their condition correctly.
Don't lie. You literally have no respect for any trans people considering how you've been posting about them.
It's hilarious that you of all people are lecturing others about respect.
472
« on: January 19, 2015, 09:51:08 PM »
Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals
Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.
473
« on: January 19, 2015, 09:50:33 PM »
I did prove it. You claimed cops would not arrest people for drugs, and I showed you they do, a lot. Cannabis is not illegal, the unjust laws are the only thing illegal. It infringes upon our freedoms which they have no authority to do. No one should enforce unjust laws. Are cops just dummies that do whatever they are told no matter how wrong they know it is?
But I never made that claim. Ever. You just threw that accusation into one of your responses to me. Regardless of whether it's unjust, they're not necessarily wrong for doing their jobs unless it strongly violates moral boundaries or their own conscience.
Infringing upon freedoms DOES violate moral boundaries. You just admitted you were wrong. Also, are you really saying I put it into your responses? Let's review...
I began with, "I've had a few offers to be a cop, and there's a reason I never took it. I can deal with pathetic people, I can even deal with having to take on multiple drunks, but I could never sacrifice my principle and infringe upon people like cops do. You spend your day robbing from mostly productive people."
1) Stop lying about your alleged job offers
2) Arresting someone for having drugs is hardly deplorable compared to, I don't know, beating peaceful protesters with nightsticks
3) You're only proving yourself wrong by *attempting* to continue this argument.
You're wrong, again.
Not at all.
1. You can get over your obsession. I have some friends that constantly bug me into trying to join, at the same time I try and get them out of the corruption, which to their credit even they acknowledge exists and are not happy about. Also, the person I got my guard card through was devastated when I told him I never had the intention of ever becoming a cop.
2. Both are extremely wrong, as it often times leads to the officers murdering the victims, sometimes they even receive a vacation after. Nice job trying to make it less of an issue than what it is because you realize you were wrong and are now embarrassed.
3. You've offered me no actual argument, you've only been showing how naive, obsessed and pathetic you are.
You're wrong.
1) I sincerely, honestly doubt your claims about the cop job offer.
2) lol. Nothing about those statements are even remotely true.
3) I have refuted every point you've brought up. Also, name-calling has no place in Serious.
1. I'm apathetic to what you believe. I have no obligation to convince you. 2. Except it's exactly true. 3. You seem to be incapable of refuting anything, as I have proven every point you've attempted to make incorrect. Calling others names is not against the rules.
474
« on: January 19, 2015, 09:44:14 PM »
I'm glad Jesse won the case. It's a shame this filth wasn't around to see it happen.
475
« on: January 19, 2015, 09:41:00 PM »
Lame of Thrones >being a faggot
Uh oh, here come the tasteless masses with their torches and pitchforks, lol
>elegiac
>not being a faggot
I never knew he owned a motorcycle.
476
« on: January 19, 2015, 09:39:05 PM »
It's really obvious who does and does not understand transgenderism and related trans issues.
If you don't know what you're talking about, it's generally a good idea not to debate about it.
This isn't a debate, it's a discussion. Transgenders who embrace the disorder are sick. They have no place in a civilized society.
You're right, it isn't a debate - it's you shitting all over something you haven't bothered to try to understand. Literally nothing could convince you otherwise because you couldn't care to understand.
You're speaking to yourself perfectly. Also, this is an insulting post, let's see if Rocket warns you now.
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« on: January 19, 2015, 09:37:55 PM »
It's really obvious who does and does not understand transgenderism and related trans issues.
If you don't know what you're talking about, it's generally a good idea not to debate about it.
No wonder you've never made an attempt at a debate.
478
« on: January 19, 2015, 09:37:21 PM »
Keep it clean
That's not a rule.
Camnator please. I'm only doing this once.
Read up.
Spoiler 2. The Rules- Personal Attacks, Harassment, and Flaming are prohibited. This is a site-wide rule, but requires highlighting here as well. Criticizing someone's views, or stating their opinion is wrong, does not constitute a personal attack. However, calling some a "brain dead liberal sheep" or "archaic Republicunt" will result in the deployment of the gorilla and/or banana, along with possible moderation.
- Baiting will be handled with on a thread by thread, case by case basis. A thread can have a controversial title, so long as the OP establishes discussion value for the thread. However, threads blatantly calling out groups of people will not be tolerated, and will likely be locked.
- Shitposting will be moved to The Flood. What constitutes a shitpost? If you have to ask "What are we supposed to be discussing here", it likely doesn't belong in this forum.
- Reaction images and gifs are permitted, in moderation. If it gets out of hand, expect a verbal warning. Ignore that, expect more.
Oh, well, when they are actually enforced fairly on everyone then I shall acknowledge the rules. Until they stop becoming a joke I can't take them seriously.
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« on: January 19, 2015, 09:35:16 PM »
I did prove it. You claimed cops would not arrest people for drugs, and I showed you they do, a lot. Cannabis is not illegal, the unjust laws are the only thing illegal. It infringes upon our freedoms which they have no authority to do. No one should enforce unjust laws. Are cops just dummies that do whatever they are told no matter how wrong they know it is?
But I never made that claim. Ever. You just threw that accusation into one of your responses to me. Regardless of whether it's unjust, they're not necessarily wrong for doing their jobs unless it strongly violates moral boundaries or their own conscience.
Infringing upon freedoms DOES violate moral boundaries. You just admitted you were wrong. Also, are you really saying I put it into your responses? Let's review...
I began with, "I've had a few offers to be a cop, and there's a reason I never took it. I can deal with pathetic people, I can even deal with having to take on multiple drunks, but I could never sacrifice my principle and infringe upon people like cops do. You spend your day robbing from mostly productive people."
1) Stop lying about your alleged job offers
2) Arresting someone for having drugs is hardly deplorable compared to, I don't know, beating peaceful protesters with nightsticks
3) You're only proving yourself wrong by *attempting* to continue this argument.
You're wrong, again.
Not at all.
1. You can get over your obsession. I have some friends that constantly bug me into trying to join, at the same time I try and get them out of the corruption, which to their credit even they acknowledge exists and are not happy about. Also, the person I got my guard card through was devastated when I told him I never had the intention of ever becoming a cop. 2. Both are extremely wrong, as it often times leads to the officers murdering the victims, sometimes they even receive a vacation after. Nice job trying to make it less of an issue than what it is because you realize you were wrong and are now embarrassed. 3. You've offered me no actual argument, you've only been showing how naive, obsessed and pathetic you are. You're wrong.
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« on: January 19, 2015, 09:31:53 PM »
God doesn't contradict Himself by sacrificing His Son, because Jesus WAS God.
This is something that gets complex: realizing that Jesus "was with God, and WAS God."
And Christ was the "sacrificial lamb, sin offering" that cleanses the world of its sins if it accepts that gift.
And also, why does knowledge of the aftermath of His death keep His death from being a sacrifice?
He still had to go through the suffering. The knowledge of what your actions will bring don't negate what you are doing.
That's like saying: you know that if you hold off a gunman and die, the people you are with will escape and survive. So you dying is no longer a sacrifice. You do the exact same action, the only difference is you have the knowledge of the aftermath.
What determines an act as sacrifice? The lack of knowledge that what you are doing is worth it?
The "book definition" of Sacrifice is: offer or kill as a religious sacrifice.
So yeah, Jesus meets the book definition of Sacrifice.
Why exactly would a deity need to make a son of himself to get himself killed in order to forgive us? If anything, it should piss a deity off.
A "sin offering" was necessary to cleanse people of their sins.
But to negate that and have the ultimate sacrifice(or "sin offering"), that would cover ALL sins......it would take Christ's death and resurrection.
So, you clean people of their sins by putting them in the position of performing arguably one of the highest sins? And this is supposed to be a deity?
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