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« on: January 23, 2015, 03:45:36 PM »
But if i replied i would be derailing this thread
Freaking weeb
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« on: January 23, 2015, 03:45:00 PM »
I've noticed your pathetic is obsessed
why camnator, why do you persist
Because I choose to.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 03:44:40 PM »
I notice every body here is nuts
I heard ya hotshot.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 03:42:37 PM »
>People's Socialist Democratic Republic of California (aka Komifornia)
As if you respect his right to freedom of speech.
I do
the best state
HAHAHA! What in the hell is that from? It's hilarious.
Team America. I used it in a reply to him when he posted something stupid and now he's been butthurt and uses it (incorrectly) in almost every reply now.
I've seen that amazing movie five times and don't recall these scenes...
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« on: January 23, 2015, 03:38:39 PM »
It's a proven fact.
Yes, we realize big female booties are far superior to others, I just don't get why you brought that up irrelevantly.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 03:36:28 PM »
>People's Socialist Democratic Republic of California (aka Komifornia)
As if you respect his right to freedom of speech.
I do
the best state
HAHAHA! What in the hell is that from? It's hilarious.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 03:32:41 PM »
It's not a human at that point,
I think the word you're looking for is 'person'. Fetuses are human.
I think what he means is that a fetus isn't as biologically sapient as a developed human, any more than an acorn is a developed tree.
Humans aren't sapient until after infancy. That doesn't seem pertinent to personhood.
By sapience I mean something that can register physical pain. Fetuses do not fall under that category, and I fail to see how they can be different from a clump of skin cells and deserve the same rights as a grown human.
Couldn't you make that same claim based on those small amount of people that can't feel pain?
It's more than just a pain threshold. A fetus before the third trimester doesn't even resemble a human. It cannot think or feel or respond to any extraneous factors, so why should it be placed with higher value than the living human that is bearing it?
Why shouldn't they be equal? She made the conscious risk of getting pregnant. Why should she get to flush it out carelessly because she views it as a burden? Here's my thinking, honestly. If you're fine with a woman aborting based on the fact it's a burden to her, should she not also have the choice of getting rid of a 4 year old rebellious toddler that is also a burden? I truly see no difference between the two.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 03:28:01 PM »
I think sentience entails a degree of dignity and mercy. We should strive to never willingly torture, maim, or otherwise physically or psychologically traumatize a sentient animal, and when it is necessary or agreed upon to cause them harm (i.e., cattle or hunting) that it be done in a regulated and humane manner.
Good Turkey!
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« on: January 23, 2015, 03:19:28 PM »
deserve the same rights -- they can't get married, work
Bad, Turkey! Bad!
What'd I do?
Those are not rights you silly.
Not in the bill of rights, no, but I certainly have the right to provide services for money and I have a right to hold a marriage ceremony with whomever I want; they were just examples tacit rights an adult has.
That's more of a freedom than a right, but that's why I just use the broader term of liberty more often now.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 03:12:39 PM »
I think sentient animals deserve certain rights, like not to be tortured or abused. Spiders though... fuck spiders.
I see my post has been written for me.
There's also the point that spiders often trespass into homes. The freaking criminals should be taken care of.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 03:05:29 PM »
I noticed that everybody who isn't me, blows cock.
I did change my name to "Me" just recently.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 03:04:42 PM »
I've noticed your pathetic is obsessed
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:58:27 PM »
Disgusting homo sapien
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:49:38 PM »
>People's Socialist Democratic Republic of California (aka Komifornia)
As if you respect his right to freedom of speech.
inb4 more people jump on the hating the best state bandwagon
Best state? Haha! Did you perhaps mean most broke? I think they had some kind of record with cities filing bankruptcy recently.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:47:52 PM »
Are you trying to tell me both countries are tyrannical? Hold on. Meta, I need help getting up from the floor. I'm in a severe state of shock.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:46:47 PM »
I'd say they can be derived from objective morality, but it's more of a byproduct than a direct result, I think.
Like, you don't necessarily have any rights until the higher authority recognized true moral objectiveness. They acknowledge these rights after doing so because it's the moral thing to do.
I'm talking in circles, aren't I?
Higher Authority?
Despite the cries of illegitimacy that I know are going to follow, yes, there is in fact a hierarchy. You'll recognize those on top as the ones who take roughly 25-30% of your paychecks.
Used to be a lot more than that, illegally. They are not a higher authority, as they follow a phony authority. The individual is still supreme. It's why there's a second amendment and why it's power BY the people. We need to exercise our authority in a revolution.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:40:08 PM »
I'd say they can be derived from objective morality, but it's more of a byproduct than a direct result, I think.
Like, you don't necessarily have any rights until the higher authority recognized true moral objectiveness. They acknowledge these rights after doing so because it's the moral thing to do.
I'm talking in circles, aren't I?
Higher Authority?
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:30:17 PM »
I think sentient animals deserve the certain rights, like not to be tortured or abused. Spiders though... fuck spiders.
Absolutely agreed. Spiders are proven to be evil by the one true big booty goddess herself.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:28:35 PM »
They have all of the same rights as us, and I applaud India for recognizing dolphins as non-human persons.
I'm quite a big believer in the personhood of certain animals like dolphins, elephants and chimpanzees (or used to be, anyway). I'm just not sure if its personhood, in a proper sense, if the dolphins (or whatever) can't conceive of their obligation to respect the personhood of one another.
Like, we understand it. But I'm not entirely sure if it's really applicable to animals.
Ah, but are we so different? There's plenty of people that don't understand it. Liberty is all about the principle of good people to do the right thing just because it's the right thing to do.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:25:55 PM »
I think most living beings deserve not to be tortured, killed, beaten, etc and you should be punished if you do.
Yes, but the point is: how can we legally endow chimps with a right not to be murdered when, essentially, such a right doesn't exist within any chimp community known? If the right to not be murdered implies an obligation for others to not murder you, how can animals have rights? Seeing as they can't conceive of duty.
"The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society." "It is strangely absurd to suppose that a million of human beings, collected together, are not under the same moral laws which bind each of them separately." -Thomas Jefferson The fact that rights are often trampled upon doesn't justify that fact.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:24:02 PM »
They have all of the same rights as us, and I applaud India for recognizing dolphins as non-human persons.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:23:08 PM »
Also, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.
No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.
Stop making shit up.
Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.
Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.
I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?
Please just stop.
No, you don't NEED those things to LIVE. Sorry, I don't just stop because you get proven wrong. Walk to a dang pond with a bucket. My point is you're going to live, you're just going to have to not be dependent on others.
Sorry, this isn't the fucking 1400's. I'm not going to build a tiny shack and attempt to survive. This is 2015 with all the comfort and amenities I desire. We don't need to hunt for our food anymore, the grocery store exists. We don't need to make our own clothes, we can buy those, too. I'm not going to walk 20 miles to and from work, so I drive because we have cars.
Maybe barely surviving works for you, but certainly not for me.
It's pretty silly that you say all this shit about not needing any of these things, yet here you are on the fucking internet.
Since this isn't the past we better just make slaves of employers?
What does that even mean? How do I make my employer a slave? It doesn't work like that. Live within your means and support yourself. I do.You have to actually work for those comforts instead of expecting them to be handed too you. Yes, that's called "a job." I'm hardly "barely surviving." I worked hard to where I am to live comfortably, and I didn't steal from anyone to get there. ..and I didn't work hard? I stole things from people to get where I am?
You also don't need the internet, and I can actually afford it on my own. My possessions are irrelevant. You make an employer a slave when you raise the minimum wage by forcing them to pay something they never agreed to pay.
Then you're living, which goes against your claim that you can't live on $8 an hour.
Or providing for yourself. No one owes you a job, nor is one required to survive.
You are advocating for theft...
Do you realize what a dysfunctional society we would live in if nobody had real fucking jobs? We can't all be farmers and blacksmiths and shit. We already did that...hundreds of years ago.
You realize there's plenty of fantastic jobs out there, or you can always start your own business.
No, you can't have a business, because something something theft and other bullshit you made up
Thanks for admitting you can't even make an argument now. What you meant to say is, you can't have a business because the corrupt government makes competition and starting up nearly impossible, so, to counter their bad policies we need more corruption and bad policies?
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:19:21 PM »
Did you get sexually assaulted or given radiation?
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:18:41 PM »
Also, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.
No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.
Stop making shit up.
Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.
Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.
I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?
Please just stop.
No, you don't NEED those things to LIVE. Sorry, I don't just stop because you get proven wrong. Walk to a dang pond with a bucket. My point is you're going to live, you're just going to have to not be dependent on others.
Sorry, this isn't the fucking 1400's. I'm not going to build a tiny shack and attempt to survive. This is 2015 with all the comfort and amenities I desire. We don't need to hunt for our food anymore, the grocery store exists. We don't need to make our own clothes, we can buy those, too. I'm not going to walk 20 miles to and from work, so I drive because we have cars.
Maybe barely surviving works for you, but certainly not for me.
It's pretty silly that you say all this shit about not needing any of these things, yet here you are on the fucking internet.
Since this isn't the past we better just make slaves of employers?
What does that even mean? How do I make my employer a slave? It doesn't work like that. Live within your means and support yourself. I do.You have to actually work for those comforts instead of expecting them to be handed too you. Yes, that's called "a job." I'm hardly "barely surviving." I worked hard to where I am to live comfortably, and I didn't steal from anyone to get there. ..and I didn't work hard? I stole things from people to get where I am?
You also don't need the internet, and I can actually afford it on my own. My possessions are irrelevant. You make an employer a slave when you raise the minimum wage by forcing them to pay something they never agreed to pay.
Then you're living, which goes against your claim that you can't live on $8 an hour.
Or providing for yourself. No one owes you a job, nor is one required to survive.
You are advocating for theft...
Do you realize what a dysfunctional society we would live in if nobody had real fucking jobs? We can't all be farmers and blacksmiths and shit. We already did that...hundreds of years ago.
You realize there's plenty of fantastic jobs out there, or you can always start your own business.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:17:32 PM »
Rights are natural and stem from our humanity. We have always had inalienable rights. Our Bill of Rights didn't grant any rights, it merely acknowledged them as always existing and made that clear while establishing the limited powers of government. "A free people claim their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate." -Thomas Jefferson You can learn anything you need to know about liberty from this great man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sNWbiAMf80&feature=player_detailpage#t=473s
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:13:08 PM »
deserve the same rights -- they can't get married, work
Bad, Turkey! Bad!
What'd I do?
Those are not rights you silly.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:12:28 PM »
Also, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.
No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.
Stop making shit up.
Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.
Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.
I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?
Please just stop.
No, you don't NEED those things to LIVE. Sorry, I don't just stop because you get proven wrong. Walk to a dang pond with a bucket. My point is you're going to live, you're just going to have to not be dependent on others.
Sorry, this isn't the fucking 1400's. I'm not going to build a tiny shack and attempt to survive. This is 2015 with all the comfort and amenities I desire. We don't need to hunt for our food anymore, the grocery store exists. We don't need to make our own clothes, we can buy those, too. I'm not going to walk 20 miles to and from work, so I drive because we have cars.
Maybe barely surviving works for you, but certainly not for me.
It's pretty silly that you say all this shit about not needing any of these things, yet here you are on the fucking internet.
Since this isn't the past we better just make slaves of employers?
What does that even mean? How do I make my employer a slave? It doesn't work like that. Live within your means and support yourself. I do.You have to actually work for those comforts instead of expecting them to be handed too you. Yes, that's called "a job." I'm hardly "barely surviving." I worked hard to where I am to live comfortably, and I didn't steal from anyone to get there. ..and I didn't work hard? I stole things from people to get where I am?
You also don't need the internet, and I can actually afford it on my own. My possessions are irrelevant. You make an employer a slave when you raise the minimum wage by forcing them to pay something they never agreed to pay. Then you're living, which goes against your claim that you can't live on $8 an hour. Or providing for yourself. No one owes you a job, nor is one required to survive. You are advocating for theft...
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« on: January 23, 2015, 02:04:03 PM »
Also, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.
No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.
Stop making shit up.
Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.
Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.
I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?
Please just stop.
No, you don't NEED those things to LIVE. Sorry, I don't just stop because you get proven wrong. Walk to a dang pond with a bucket. My point is you're going to live, you're just going to have to not be dependent on others.
Sorry, this isn't the fucking 1400's. I'm not going to build a tiny shack and attempt to survive. This is 2015 with all the comfort and amenities I desire. We don't need to hunt for our food anymore, the grocery store exists. We don't need to make our own clothes, we can buy those, too. I'm not going to walk 20 miles to and from work, so I drive because we have cars.
Maybe barely surviving works for you, but certainly not for me.
It's pretty silly that you say all this shit about not needing any of these things, yet here you are on the fucking internet.
Since this isn't the past we better just make slaves of employers? It doesn't work like that. Live within your means and support yourself. You have to actually work for those comforts instead of expecting them to be handed too you. I'm hardly "barely surviving." I worked hard to where I am to live comfortably, and I didn't steal from anyone to get there.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 01:55:18 PM »
Also, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.
No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.
Stop making shit up.
Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.
Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.
I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?
Please just stop.
No, you don't NEED those things to LIVE. Sorry, I don't just stop because you get proven wrong. Walk to a dang pond with a bucket. My point is you're going to live, you're just going to have to not be dependent on others.
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« on: January 23, 2015, 01:51:51 PM »
Also, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.
No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.
Stop making shit up.
Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.
Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.
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