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9271
« on: June 03, 2015, 08:29:16 PM »
>is literally the least megalomaniacal person ever
Says the guy who thinks he is the greatest person in the world and that he will convince everything alive to commit mass suicide
9272
« on: June 03, 2015, 08:25:48 PM »
me? theism
at least im not a depressed megalomaniacal sociopath
9273
« on: June 03, 2015, 08:22:36 PM »
me?
9274
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:10:53 PM »
We should stop teaching children about the evils of racism in school.
That's like telling a depressed person to cheer up!
That's not even close to analygouys to what I said and you know it, that's not even a stretched exaduration. At this point you're just being an ass for the sake of being an ass
9275
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:59:32 PM »
psssh
i have nothing to do with these kiddie games
damn I think im gonna cut myself on that edge
9276
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:53:27 PM »
And for those who happen to be dysphoric to their own accord, we should teach them that it's perfectly okay to be born with the "wrong" body.
I don't see what the problem is there.
We should also tell all the depressed people ''just cheer up'' and those naturaly inclined to be murderers that that's probably not a good idea. Im sure that will work.
9277
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:43:27 PM »
And hey, maybe you're just one of those people who could be fine with either side, but apparently I'm not one of them.
Well, my goal is to produce a society (if we must produce a society at all) to not be comprised of a bunch of bigoted shitheads who cause people to feel uneasy or insecure or dysphoric to the point where they question their identity. And if someone is going to question their identity, they'll do it out of curiosity and wonder, not fear.
Apparently, that's a shitty idea though. I should really stop trivializing the issue!
Whatever.
Thank you for sharing your situation with me.
I thought your goal was to exterminate all life in the universe to get rid of your teen angst the suffering caused by life
9278
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:40:36 PM »
And this is your problem. not everybody is a appatheric stick in the mud like you, and you cant seem to comprehend that So you're saying people SHOULD care?
Why? So they can get depressed and kill themselves over it?
Nice going.
I am saying people are going to care anyway because we aren't the green blooded vulcans you seem to think we are
9279
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:35:27 PM »
it's meaningless to me, and it BAFFLES me as to why it isn't meaningless to anyone else
And this is your problem. not everybody is a appathetic stick in the mud like you, and you cant seem to comprehend that
9280
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:31:26 PM »
I have above average intelligence (tested in school), didn't have any other condition, hadn't had any behavioral problems, and such, so I really didn't want to jump through all those hoops and talk to a psychologist to prove I was sane and suffered from gender dysphoria when I had already figured out what was wrong with me. So when I was 18 I started doing low level DIY hormone replacement after researching dosages, side effects, and the like.
IDK what else to tell you, besides gender roles have very little to do with my problems (and I don't really have a feminine personality, either).
the question i'm asking is, essentially, what would having a female form honestly do for your life
because i can't see how it would add anything
i don't want to pry, if this is getting too personal, by the way
i just don't see any value in having a male body or a female body--there's nothing
do you just not understand the concept of sexuality at all
9281
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:22:23 PM »
You have no idea what it's like to have a mental disorder do you. (exept the one that makes you want to kill everyboby) >is depressed
Yeah, I do. Thanks.
It has nothing to do with rationality. We teach people to give a fuck about their bodies. That's my argument.
That's OUR fault as a society.
My solution:
Stop.
That is a bad solution how.
If someone is uncomfertable with the body they are in due to a mental disorder they are gonna feel that way regardless of society. It's called a MENTAL dissorder and not a social disorder for a reason. Its because of a broblem in the brain. In fact trying to deny people their sexual identity would probably be far worse for them than current societal norms since youre telling them that how they feel does not matter.
9282
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:12:46 PM »
Verb, it's a disorder for a reason. i'm just saying, if i had the disorder, i would be able to live with it
it would be so easy for me to get over it
You have no idea what it's like to have a mental disorder do you. (exept the one that makes you want to kill everyboby) Take this from someone who has previously struggled with depression. It has nothing to do with rationality. You just feel a certain way and there is NOTHING you can do to stop it.
9283
« on: June 03, 2015, 06:00:26 PM »
Removing gender may make it easier, but it still doesn't remove the fact that women and men are biologically different, and this causes dysphoria because they feel they're stuck in the wrong body, transitioning makes this easier by making them match their preferred sex as closely as possible. Since it's not actually possible to change your sex, changing your gender is the closest that you can get. all i'm saying is that we should teach people not to care
Teaching people not to have a mental disorder is like trying to convince all life in the universe to kill itself....oh Gender/sex is naturaly a major part of our self identity anyway sice it naturaly influences our pysiology and the way we think
9284
« on: June 03, 2015, 05:50:54 PM »
They're in anguish because they think they're "in the wrong body. and why does it matter if they were?
it doesn't
>this says the guy who seriously wants to blow up the universe because he thinks the concept of suffering is oh so bad LOL
9285
« on: June 03, 2015, 05:45:21 PM »
because they get bullied
duh
if we treated people like fucking human beings, it wouldn't be an issue at all
has nothing to do with sex/procreation and everything to do with discrimination
that's the root of the problem, and you're a big part of it, bubba
Nope. They're in anguish because they think they're "in the wrong body.
Had nothing to do with bullying. And I don't bully transgendered or dehumanize them, so you can shove that up your ass.
what verb said honestly applies more to gays. On the issues of transexuals you're right
9286
« on: June 03, 2015, 05:26:43 PM »
because they get bullied
duh
if we treated people like fucking human beings, it wouldn't be an issue at all
has nothing to do with sex/procreation and everything to do with discrimination
that's the root of the problem, and you're a big part of it, bubba
Gotta go with verb on that one. I will admit, i'm not evactly an advocate for gay marrage, but the way they have been treated has been absolutely unaceptable.
9287
« on: June 03, 2015, 04:39:05 PM »
no. everyone but two of you are millitant athiests, Racists, gun nuts and or think poor people are the spawn of satan. the other two are Verbatim i'm two people now
I think he's calling you fat
No unless penduate is fat
9288
« on: June 03, 2015, 04:32:22 PM »
So when did Black Ops II and AW suddeny un-happen?
>Decimator Omega
Oh
9289
« on: June 03, 2015, 04:19:57 PM »
There sre of course outliers and those who diviate from the norm And it's these outliers that disprove the entire notion that gender is biological. Because it isn't.
The only thing that's biological is testosterone and estrogen (and whatever other hormones may be more prevalent in men/women than the opposite sex--I feel like it might be more than just those two). Neither of which are strictly male or female hormones.
those outliers are largly the result of people who's chemestry deviates forom the norm of their sex, not because of how one was raised, (see again the John Money debacle)
9290
« on: June 03, 2015, 04:13:37 PM »
Gender (as in the mind and not the body [sex]) is at least partly biological, if not completely. It's innate and can't really be changed, as demonstrated in that example that was quoted with the boy with the botched surgery who was raised as a girl.
It can easily be changed. Caitlyn Jenner much?
It stops being social and becomes biolocical when it requires fucking surgery to influence. Are you going to tell me cancer is a social construct too?
9291
« on: June 03, 2015, 04:10:44 PM »
I honestly have no idea what verb thinks gender is at this point. It's defined as the characheristics difetenting between masculinity and femininity.
Said traits are largely the result of biological differences between male and female due to hormones and genes thatinfluence behavior and physiology. There sre of course outliers and those who diviate from the norm but at tne end of the day it's mostly biological
9292
« on: June 03, 2015, 03:51:25 PM »
LOL
Literally where.
I'm using established definitions and common sense.
It's just about universaly agreed that the results contradict the whole ''social construct argument. Not by me.
9293
« on: June 03, 2015, 03:48:58 PM »
i mean, if you really wanted to make some asinine biological argument, why not just bring up the fact that women have tits and men have dicks? therefore, gender isn't a social construct, because there's clear differences between the sexes?
it's just as stupid as trying to bring up testosterone levels, as though that's not biology
which isn't what we're talking about
Testosterone and estrogen levels are what affect and influene naturaly''gendered'' behavior which is the whole point. Even animals have their own gender norms on their own witout social constructs.But hey you're just gonna call me a cunt sooner or later anyway for not agreeing with whatever you say, so I guess there's no point in arguing with you. I guess Black Widdows only eat their mates out of peer pressure.
9294
« on: June 03, 2015, 03:42:17 PM »
ITT people confuse gender roles with gender.
Gender represents both the roles and behaviors perceived to be associated with their respective sexes. There's nothing biological about gender, by definition. These people are arguing established definitions, and it's just silly.
"THEY CUT A BOY'S PENIS OFF AND MADE HIM THINK HE WAS A GIRL, BUT THEN HE WASN'T A GIRL! THEREFORE, NOT A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT!"
durrr
says the guy using 'cause i said so' logic
9295
« on: June 03, 2015, 03:32:13 PM »
We dont't.
Verb and Pendulate kill us all.
9296
« on: June 03, 2015, 03:28:01 PM »
Have you ever heard of a little thing called testosterone? (probably spelled that wrong....fucking wii u) Because women don't have testosterone, yeah.
Mens testosterone levels are higher than females which results in seperate masculine physical as well as behavioral traits. The same applies in reverse in respects to estrogen. and in race there are verry minor differences that go beyond a social construct. they are pretty minor but they exist. nationality on the other hand is a social construct
9297
« on: June 03, 2015, 03:19:48 PM »
Just what the hell is "masculine behavior"?
Oh, right, it's something that we've come to define through social gravity.
Have you ever heard of a little thing called testosterone? (probably spelled that wrong....fucking wii u)
9298
« on: June 03, 2015, 03:14:33 PM »
you'd think i'd knw better by now.
9299
« on: June 03, 2015, 02:59:27 PM »
That woldnt matter if gender was a social construct. And it isnt even like he knew held been castrated. he was a newborn. To him what his (former) penis was was just a mis-shappen vag. He had no idea he had a penis untill they told him. You just said that he "knew something was wrong".
And yes, genital mutilation does matter, and it's irrelevant to whether gender is a social construct.
Which it is. And that particular case doesn't fucking change that.
Finaly I found it. Names are David Reimer ( the victim) and John Money (the shrink). It's just about universaly agreed that the results contradict the whole ''social construct argument.
9300
« on: June 03, 2015, 02:43:11 PM »
Dispite all this he still recognised something was wrong with his whole life and was miserable being raised as a girl before his dumbfuck parents took their heads out of their asses and told him the truth. Again, it was because he was castrated. Duh. A completely unnecessary procedure that no transfolk ever really have to go through.Thats exactly what the sick fuck tried to do, and it failed. He realised he was a boy before he knew it for a fact. Again, because he was castrated. This isn't difficult.
That woldnt matter if gender was a social construct. And it isnt even like he knew held been castrated. he was a newborn. To him what his (former) penis was was just a mis-shappen vag. He had no idea he had a penis untill they told him.
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