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The Flood / Re: Star Wars Spoilers (Seriously. Spoilers ahead)
« on: December 21, 2015, 11:08:56 PM »
I'm curious as to how Rian Johnson is going to handle the direction of Star Wars Ep. VIII.
Very well hopefully.

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The Flood / Re: What are you getting people for christmas?
« on: December 21, 2015, 10:33:11 PM »
I picked up The Best of the Rolling Stones and Revolver CD's for my brother today.

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The Flood / Re: Kylo Ren
« on: December 21, 2015, 10:19:10 PM »
Fantastic.

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The Flood / Re: Just saw Star Wars
« on: December 21, 2015, 09:06:24 PM »

Spoiler
I thought his death was really well-handled, actually.
Spoiler
Han Solo would never walk into danger like a retard like that though. Son or no.
Spoiler
Are you kidding? He literally flew into an asteroid field in which the objective odds of survival were minuscule. He thrusts himself into danger all the time, and banks on himself to get through it.
Spoiler
He lost all his wits when he faced Kylo and that's something that Han Solo would never do

Spoiler
It was under very different circumstances. It was his own son, whom he had promised to Leia to bring back.

Honestly I think it was one of those things that only parents can truly understand. Most people on this site, including myself, can't fully understand that
Excellent point.

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My goodness it's spot on!

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we should just get rid of all the mods tbh fam imo
Or next anarchy make everyone a mod!

we can trusted for sure
Maybe the catch is that everyone is automatically anon?

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we should just get rid of all the mods tbh fam imo
Or next anarchy make everyone a mod!

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The Flood / Re: HISTORY IN THE MAKING, THE BOOSTER HAS LANDED
« on: December 21, 2015, 07:55:30 PM »
YouTube


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The Flood / Re: HISTORY IN THE MAKING, THE BOOSTER HAS LANDED
« on: December 21, 2015, 07:48:17 PM »
HALF A SECOND!!

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The Flood / Re: HISTORY IN THE MAKING, THE BOOSTER HAS LANDED
« on: December 21, 2015, 07:42:09 PM »
Unreal.
That's actually incredible.

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The Flood / Re: engine starup in less than 15 seconds (spaceX landing)
« on: December 21, 2015, 07:33:46 PM »
Let's go boiiiiii!!

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The Flood / Re: engine starup in less than 15 seconds (spaceX landing)
« on: December 21, 2015, 07:30:16 PM »
I love science.

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Irrelevant given that most people would try to take blind stabs at saying "What do you mean sexuality is wrong?!" and not using logic to defeat his argument.

Which is needed because most of Verb's thoughts are based in logic and as such he believes them to be as such. Being a moderator is good for that because it means he would be unbiased and fully use logic to decide whether someone deserves a ban or not.
Ignoring that Verb has his own set of logic that is set in different principles than the majority of people. Verbatim, unbiased? I find that very doubtful. His take on logic is generally set in an extremist route, he prefers absolutist measures as opposed to compromises. Surely you see the incompatibility inherit in that?
I don't think that would take him out of contention to be a mod though. And given the rest of his traits I think he's still worth a shot.

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Are you aware that 90% of conversations involving Verb end up getting steered towards anti-natalism?
It entirely depends on the issue at hand. I highly doubt a disagreement over whether someone was sperging out about spoilers could turn into an anti-natalism debate.
You'd be surprised.
uh... ok?
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Can you think of any times where he exercised great patience when dealing with people, and didn't have pre-judgements about them?
Yes actually. Just the other day there was a sexualism is video games thread where him and I were able to have a civil discussion on the topic and he actually changed his view of the situation. Which is funny because on the past we haven't gotten on great in those types of disagreements.
Only after how many pages of him telling everybody else off?
Irrelevant given that most people would try to take blind stabs at saying "What do you mean sexuality is wrong?!" and not using logic to defeat his argument.

Which is needed because most of Verb's thoughts are based in logic and as such he believes them to be as such. Being a moderator is good for that because it means he would be unbiased and fully use logic to decide whether someone deserves a ban or not.

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Verbatim's apparent desire to religiously enforce to the rules if given power, would be liabilities.
A moderator that follows and enforces our rules? How awful.
i think he means that i would be draconian

i would punish people without any forethought

which isn't true, but i think that's what he meant
maybe, kind of, partly >.>

Regarding rule enforcement: From what I remember as a monitor, the rules are more loosely/questionably enforced than one would think. There was a point where I stopped doing much on my own, because there'd be a good chance that what the rest of the staff would do was very different from whatever I'd reason after talking it over with Kits. I figured it was safer to just point stuff out and let someone else handle it.

I can't really see you enjoying something like that whatsoever. Honestly, I'm a bit like you in that I like having a set of solid, consistent rules to govern logic. You won't find that on the staff.
Thank you for bringing this up. This right here is another problem that's always been there with the current (and last couple iterations of) rules and is one reason why it seems to be so inconsistent which certain people have brought up.
Interpretation is very present a lot of times.

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I'm going to be blunt, here.

Verbatim's obvious temper issues, and an apparent desire to religiously enforce to the rules if given power, would be liabilities. Combine that with a lack of understanding of the basic unwritten rules of governing a forum and it just sounds like a disaster to any right-minded individual.
Obvious seems like a strange word for his temper issues given that he's explained why he gets angry over certain things. It isn't because of his temper, it's because he has to explain things to people many, many, many times. Which I sort of get. And if it's a problem for a mod to have a desire to enforce rules given the power he has then there likely is a problem with the way the rule is written and not with the individual enforcing them.
A lack of patience is a bad thing for a mod, a very bad thing.
A lack of patience for what exactly?
Dealing with other people requires one to not have a lack of patience. Being a moderator requires you to spend time dealing with other people. And like you said, he does not have great patience.
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It isn't because of his temper, it's because he has to explain things to people many, many, many times.
Coupled with how he's as dense as Osmium, I don't think people would have any sort of enjoyable experience dealing with him as a mod.
I never said he didn't have patience. What I meant by that comment was more on the philosophical side of him and that's what people generally see when they think of his lack of patience. Beyond Anti-natalism he's alright with patience.
Are you aware that 90% of conversations involving Verb end up getting steered towards anti-natalism?
It entirely depends on the issue at hand. I highly doubt a disagreement over whether someone was sperging out about spoilers could turn into an anti-natalism debate.
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Can you think of any times where he exercised great patience when dealing with people, and didn't have pre-judgements about them?
Yes actually. Just the other day there was a sexualism is video games thread where him and I were able to have a civil discussion on the topic and he actually changed his view of the situation. Which is funny because on the past we haven't gotten on great in those types of disagreements.

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I'm going to be blunt, here.

Verbatim's obvious temper issues, and an apparent desire to religiously enforce to the rules if given power, would be liabilities. Combine that with a lack of understanding of the basic unwritten rules of governing a forum and it just sounds like a disaster to any right-minded individual.
Obvious seems like a strange word for his temper issues given that he's explained why he gets angry over certain things. It isn't because of his temper, it's because he has to explain things to people many, many, many times. Which I sort of get.
He doesn't so much as explain the rationale behind his opinions so much as shove them down throats because he can't handle other peoples' opinions. And then still doesn't elaborate on his rationale.
But if he was a moderator this really wouldn't apply. Generally speaking you don't talk over a potential ban with someone in depth before doing the deed. Bans can be appealed to Cheat or LC anyway and if you find out Verb is handing out bans like candy for things that don't need bans then you make the decision to demote him from there.
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And if it's a problem for a mod to have a desire to enforce rules given the power he has then there likely is a problem with the way the rule is written and not with the individual enforcing them.
True, but that's not the point I was trying to make. He's said he would ban shitposting.

(Though we've yet to see him moderate, history doesn't really paint a hopeful picture. That's really all I have to go on here, so I'd be glad to be proven wrong.)
But he doesn't make the rules. I get the feeling it's the same thing that I experienced with Second Class on Plug.dj a while back. At first I wasn't expecting him to enforce the rules because he was so lax about them in the first place (Verb being the opposite in this case) but when he became a mod he stuck by them to the T and held to the meaning of the rule. (At times even asking me for clarification on certain details as he needed them.)
Point being that he wouldn't make the rules and to be a mod would have to stick to the ones already in place.

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I'm going to be blunt, here.

Verbatim's obvious temper issues, and an apparent desire to religiously enforce to the rules if given power, would be liabilities. Combine that with a lack of understanding of the basic unwritten rules of governing a forum and it just sounds like a disaster to any right-minded individual.
Obvious seems like a strange word for his temper issues given that he's explained why he gets angry over certain things. It isn't because of his temper, it's because he has to explain things to people many, many, many times. Which I sort of get. And if it's a problem for a mod to have a desire to enforce rules given the power he has then there likely is a problem with the way the rule is written and not with the individual enforcing them.
A lack of patience is a bad thing for a mod, a very bad thing.
A lack of patience for what exactly?
Dealing with other people requires one to not have a lack of patience. Being a moderator requires you to spend time dealing with other people. And like you said, he does not have great patience.
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It isn't because of his temper, it's because he has to explain things to people many, many, many times.
Coupled with how he's as dense as Osmium, I don't think people would have any sort of enjoyable experience dealing with him as a mod.
I never said he didn't have patience. What I meant by that comment was more on the philosophical side of him and that's what people generally see when they think of his lack of patience. Beyond Anti-natalism he's alright with patience.

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Do we even need more mods?  Or are we just measuring e-peens?
after the 867th deci debacle that lasted 3+ hours with no mod intervention whatsoever

yes

yes we do
Also I don't understand what the problem is with having more mods in general.

I would think that more people with power to make sure the forum is monitored and kept clean is better than having a lack of personnel. Like is there some big need to have a restricted amount of people watching over?

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I'm going to be blunt, here.

Verbatim's obvious temper issues, and an apparent desire to religiously enforce to the rules if given power, would be liabilities. Combine that with a lack of understanding of the basic unwritten rules of governing a forum and it just sounds like a disaster to any right-minded individual.
Obvious seems like a strange word for his temper issues given that he's explained why he gets angry over certain things. It isn't because of his temper, it's because he has to explain things to people many, many, many times. Which I sort of get. And if it's a problem for a mod to have a desire to enforce rules given the power he has then there likely is a problem with the way the rule is written and not with the individual enforcing them.
A lack of patience is a bad thing for a mod, a very bad thing.
A lack of patience for what exactly?

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I'm going to be blunt, here.

Verbatim's obvious temper issues, and an apparent desire to religiously enforce to the rules if given power, would be liabilities. Combine that with a lack of understanding of the basic unwritten rules of governing a forum and it just sounds like a disaster to any right-minded individual.
Obvious seems like a strange word for his temper issues given that he's explained why he gets angry over certain things. It isn't because of his temper, it's because he has to explain things to people many, many, many times. Which I sort of get. And if it's a problem for a mod to have a desire to enforce rules given the power he has then there likely is a problem with the way the rule is written and not with the individual enforcing them.

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The moderation has been more strict in the past at times, particularly in Rocket's case this is what helped fry his ass to a nice golden-brown.

In one instance that I can recall, RC and some other user were joking around in a thread where the title/OP called RC out(at the time making threads calling out other users was generally forbidden). The other user got bannu'd by Rocket(maybe RC was given a warning, can't recall), at which point RC and maybe some other users complained about Rocket being "no fun allowed" and generally bad at his position. I'm sure there were other cases, but there was so much drama and idiocy on this site at the time I can't remember.

TBlocks was also in charge of the Sep7agon plug.dj room which a bunch of people hated on him for in there, can't really remember why. He was also upgraded from Monitor to mod for a while, I don't recall him enjoying it, and he didn't keep the position either.
My, my... How history obscures the details. Rocket and I were with Yutaka in the running to be mod when the Monitor role was phased out the first time.
Yeah, but he asked for why you guys didn't stay mods. Yu, despite being an insufferable weeb, was the only one that didn't earn the complete ire of the community.
Well I mean... complete ire is a bit of a stretch I would say...
Is 78% a bit more fair?
If you must say there was "ire" then I suppose.
In my eyes it was Yutaka's lack of posting that was one reason he got the job whereas me and Rocket were exceedingly vocal at the time of the trial.
All this tells me is that Yu understood how to be a better mod.
Take it however you want.

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The moderation has been more strict in the past at times, particularly in Rocket's case this is what helped fry his ass to a nice golden-brown.

In one instance that I can recall, RC and some other user were joking around in a thread where the title/OP called RC out(at the time making threads calling out other users was generally forbidden). The other user got bannu'd by Rocket(maybe RC was given a warning, can't recall), at which point RC and maybe some other users complained about Rocket being "no fun allowed" and generally bad at his position. I'm sure there were other cases, but there was so much drama and idiocy on this site at the time I can't remember.

TBlocks was also in charge of the Sep7agon plug.dj room which a bunch of people hated on him for in there, can't really remember why. He was also upgraded from Monitor to mod for a while, I don't recall him enjoying it, and he didn't keep the position either.
My, my... How history obscures the details. Rocket and I were with Yutaka in the running to be mod when the Monitor role was phased out the first time.
Yeah, but he asked for why you guys didn't stay mods. Yu, despite being an insufferable weeb, was the only one that didn't earn the complete ire of the community.
Well I mean... complete ire is a bit of a stretch I would say...
Is 78% a bit more fair?
If you must say there was "ire" then I suppose.
In my eyes it was Yutaka's lack of posting that was one reason he got the job whereas me and Rocket were exceedingly vocal at the time of the trial.

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The moderation has been more strict in the past at times, particularly in Rocket's case this is what helped fry his ass to a nice golden-brown.

In one instance that I can recall, RC and some other user were joking around in a thread where the title/OP called RC out(at the time making threads calling out other users was generally forbidden). The other user got bannu'd by Rocket(maybe RC was given a warning, can't recall), at which point RC and maybe some other users complained about Rocket being "no fun allowed" and generally bad at his position. I'm sure there were other cases, but there was so much drama and idiocy on this site at the time I can't remember.

TBlocks was also in charge of the Sep7agon plug.dj room which a bunch of people hated on him for in there, can't really remember why. He was also upgraded from Monitor to mod for a while, I don't recall him enjoying it, and he didn't keep the position either.
My, my... How history obscures the details. Rocket and I were with Yutaka in the running to be mod when the Monitor role was phased out the first time.
Yeah, but he asked for why you guys didn't stay mods. Yu, despite being an insufferable weeb, was the only one that didn't earn the complete ire of the community.
Well I mean... complete ire is a bit of a stretch I would say...

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The moderation has been more strict in the past at times, particularly in Rocket's case this is what helped fry his ass to a nice golden-brown.

In one instance that I can recall, RC and some other user were joking around in a thread where the title/OP called RC out(at the time making threads calling out other users was generally forbidden). The other user got bannu'd by Rocket(maybe RC was given a warning, can't recall), at which point RC and maybe some other users complained about Rocket being "no fun allowed" and generally bad at his position. I'm sure there were other cases, but there was so much drama and idiocy on this site at the time I can't remember.

TBlocks was also in charge of the Sep7agon plug.dj room which a bunch of people hated on him for in there, can't really remember why. He was also upgraded from Monitor to mod for a while, I don't recall him enjoying it, and he didn't keep the position either.
My, my... How history obscures the details. Rocket and I were with Yutaka in the running to be mod when the Monitor role was phased out the first time.

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Verbatim (Just because he's such a stickler for rules and such)
Joceph
Byrne
Korra
Meta (For the Serious board)
Rocketman
Aria

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News / Re: New Mod
« on: December 21, 2015, 03:33:05 PM »
A mod that will do nothing, great choice friends.
The salt is real
However salty it may be, that's the kind of aura Luciana gives off.
Not do anything? I have others to talk to about stuff too if I have questions and what not.
Just be careful you don't ask too many questions.
It'd be in PM's to just someone like LC who tolerates me. I'm self conscious about being new to jobs anyway.

You'll do fine. If you have LC's support you should be around for a while.

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News / Re: New Mod
« on: December 21, 2015, 03:29:10 PM »
A mod that will do nothing, great choice friends.
The salt is real
However salty it may be, that's the kind of aura Luciana gives off.
Not do anything? I have others to talk to about stuff too if I have questions and what not.
Just be careful you don't ask too many questions.

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The Flood / Re: The world ended 3 years ago today
« on: December 21, 2015, 03:00:15 PM »
I remember that day and looking out the window to see if the world had ended when I woke up.
It did.

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The Flood / Re: because nobody checks news or septagon
« on: December 21, 2015, 02:58:41 PM »
FUCK YEAH ANOTHER WEEB AS A MONITOR
Anyone with a weeb avatar is automatically exempt, because otherwise it's an obvious sign of corruption on the site.

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