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The Flood / Re: Star Wars: The Digital Move Collection released today
« on: April 11, 2015, 01:10:28 AM »
You know why we're seeing more of kid Fett? Why we had the arc in TCW? Because they're trying to build up an entirely different character, as the old version can't be salvaged.

Or because fans wanted to see him during that time period? You forget, at the time season 2 came out, the comics were still canon. Boba had tons a backstory to his character already, with or without him being a clone. I don't see the issue here. The only difference now is, TCW is the only source of canon for his character outside the movies, which of course will change as time goes on.

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Give me other examples of such coincidences for your space opera statement. Outside of Star Wars.

Then entirety of "Guardians of the Galaxy" comes to mind.

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I know I'm being abrasive, rude. And I apologize, for acting in such a way. But the prequels make me angry. Because they're bad. Bland, and outright bad, writing, poor acting (because of terrible direction, the actors wouldn't have been too bad if they had been given something other than utter shit), etc. It doesn't even feel like Star Wars, not the aesthetic, nothing. The Original Trilogy is supreme, and for a good reason.

I like the PT as much as the OT. To me it's all Star Wars, and Star Wars is awesome. The PT era has had a lot of good content come out of it, and the OT and ST are starting to get some again with Rebels, Marvel's Star Wars, and most the new books. All of which I'm loving, since the story team is doing such a good job at keeping it all tied together so far.

But Boba Fett's "mystery" just seemed to die when he got all that attention in the EU between TESB and AOTC. I see where your coming from, but as an avid reader of the old EU and such, his character just never even seemed much of a mystery outside the first two films he appeared in. So his character change and them wanting to give him a PT backstory never bothered me.

Something else I've noticed: You're somewhat of a prequel apologist. "Oh, but TCW states that X, so that's been explained". The thing is, the prequels should be able to stand on their own two feet, we shouldn't need clarification provided by TCW. You're not taking into account the fact that TCW came after the fact. The prequels, when looked upon apart from TCW or other works, fall apart.

I actually like TCW, it makes the prequel era slightly tolerable and somewhat like Star Wars. A lot of it is just trying to clean up the mess of the prequels, and helps somewhat clear things up. The fact that it had to do so, however, is a clear indication of the poor quality of the prequel trilogy.

I take it you've never watched the Plinkett reviews?

Guardians of The Galaxy? I'll have to disagree. The prequels had stupid coincidences, like the Boba Fett thing I mentioned, as in every single character ends up having a direct connection to the OT. GoTG didn't have anything that far fetched.

I fixed the formatting of that post BTW. Meh, again, it's Star Wars.

No worse than this:
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or this:
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or this:
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or this:
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or Anakin building C-3P0


My point being, it's just what Star Wars does. I bet you if the PT came out first, the characters in the OT would have similar convenient connections to characters.
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The point I was trying to make was that there are a bunch of stupid coincidences, like Anakin building C-3P0. Boba Fett's origin is but one of those many silly coincidences. They're all bad.

If the PT came out first... yes... because it would be the same and only change in release order. I do not see what point you're trying to make.

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The Flood / Re: Cute Gifs
« on: April 11, 2015, 12:59:48 AM »
Really angry because of the prequels right now, will someone please post more cute things? Be they pretty girls, cute animals, I don't care. Just help heal the wound...

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The Flood / Re: Star Wars: The Digital Move Collection released today
« on: April 11, 2015, 12:56:07 AM »
he views it from a film and isolated perspective, instead of as a whole story.
... That's the point. They shouldn't have to rely on other works for them to work! EACH MOVIE, EACH TRILOGY, SHOULD WORK ON IT'S OWN.


The original trilogy does! So why can't the prequel trilogy? Because it's BAD.

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The Flood / Re: Star Wars: The Digital Move Collection released today
« on: April 11, 2015, 12:48:55 AM »
You know why we're seeing more of kid Fett? Why we had the arc in TCW? Because they're trying to build up an entirely different character, as the old version can't be salvaged.

Or because fans wanted to see him during that time period? You forget, at the time season 2 came out, the comics were still canon. Boba had tons a backstory to his character already, with or without him being a clone. I don't see the issue here. The only difference now is, TCW is the only source of canon for his character outside the movies, which of course will change as time goes on.

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Give me other examples of such coincidences for your space opera statement. Outside of Star Wars.

Then entirety of "Guardians of the Galaxy" comes to mind.

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I know I'm being abrasive, rude. And I apologize, for acting in such a way. But the prequels make me angry. Because they're bad. Bland, and outright bad, writing, poor acting (because of terrible direction, the actors wouldn't have been too bad if they had been given something other than utter shit), etc. It doesn't even feel like Star Wars, not the aesthetic, nothing. The Original Trilogy is supreme, and for a good reason.

I like the PT as much as the OT. To me it's all Star Wars, and Star Wars is awesome. The PT era has had a lot of good content come out of it, and the OT and ST are starting to get some again with Rebels, Marvel's Star Wars, and most the new books. All of which I'm loving, since the story team is doing such a good job at keeping it all tied together so far.

But Boba Fett's "mystery" just seemed to die when he got all that attention in the EU between TESB and AOTC. I see where your coming from, but as an avid reader of the old EU and such, his character just never even seemed much of a mystery outside the first two films he appeared in. So his character change and them wanting to give him a PT backstory never bothered me.

Something else I've noticed: You're somewhat of a prequel apologist. "Oh, but TCW states that X, so that's been explained". The thing is, the prequels should be able to stand on their own two feet, we shouldn't need clarification provided by TCW. You're not taking into account the fact that TCW came after the fact. The prequels, when looked upon apart from TCW or other works, fall apart.

I actually like TCW, it makes the prequel era slightly tolerable and somewhat like Star Wars. A lot of it is just trying to clean up the mess of the prequels, and helps somewhat clear things up. The fact that it had to do so, however, is a clear indication of the poor quality of the prequel trilogy.

I take it you've never watched the Plinkett reviews?
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Guardians of The Galaxy? I'll have to disagree. The prequels had stupid coincidences, like the Boba Fett thing I mentioned, as in every single character ends up having a direct connection to the OT. GoTG didn't have anything that far fetched.

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The Flood / Re: Watching the new Daredevil Netflix series
« on: April 11, 2015, 12:31:28 AM »
Fifty years from now, do you think the kids of the day will these shows the same way we view that 60's Batman show with Adam West?
The 60's Batman Series is comedic and campy on purpose, so probably not. Furthermore, the acting these days is pretty good. If anything they'll be puzzled by the lack of holographic projections.

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The Flood / Re: Star Wars: The Digital Move Collection released today
« on: April 11, 2015, 12:19:56 AM »
>temeura morrison boba fett
>darth vader screaming no in rotj


I'll pass.

I can understand the "no" thing, but it's grown on me. Why dislike Temeura Morrison though? Makes sense, canonically speaking. Boba Fett is a clone.

Original voice actor was better. More menacing, gravelly. Sort of fit the Man With No Name vibe Boba Fett sort of had going on.

They didn't even have to change the voice. Accents aren't hereditary, contrary to what Lucas seems to think. All in all I just hate Boba Fett being a clone, there's more than one Mandalorian, I don't understand why they had to be so unoriginal.
Meh, I like Morrison's voice better. Besides, the clones in Episode II, III had the accents. Plus, Boba spent 10 years of his life with his father. He already picked up the accent.

Anyway, Jango Fett and Boba  Fett aren't Mandalorians in new canon. Jango was a rouge guy who adopted it's culture and wore the stolen armor, and Boba being a clone doesn't make him a Mandolorian either. As Lucas and Dave Filoni put it, he  thinks it make him more badass to have killed Mandalorians and taken their armor to remind him of his father. Right now the only "true" Mandalorians in canon ( true as in warmongering, other words the pacifists would count) are the Deathwatch



and Sabine Wren.



We're not talking about the new canon. Go back in time, to before episode II was released. The idea of the Mandalorians as a group of warriors with armor, Boba Fett being one of the last, existed in the canon at the time. I get Lucas was trying to cash in on OT nostalgia and toy sales with Jango, but did he have to be basically the same person? Couldn't he have been someone different with mando armor, but have made a passing reference to "some guy, Fett, I used to know. No idea what happened to him".

But no. That's a level of subtlety unknown to Lucas. What, there's more than just Boba Fett that had that armor? Naaaaah if anyone else had it they'd definitely be Boba Fett, or his genetic father. Honestly, I get they were trying to connect the PT and OT but the prequels have so many coincidences in them it's hard to take them seriously.

"Oh you know the bounty hunter who tracked Solo? Yeah he's a clone and the guy he was cloned from was also a renowned bounty hunter who was also cloned to make an entire army."

You see why I hate Boba Fett being a clone? Because it's such a stupid coincidence that it sounds like an eight year old came up with it?
I was just mentioning the Mando thing to inform.

And, Star Wars is a Sci-Fi Space Opera. Of course there's a bunch of stupid coincidences. Like Luke keeping his last name to hide from the Empire, with his family.  Or Leia turning out to be Luke's sister.

And it's not like Boba Fett being a clone detracts from his character. What if Boba went through all the same stuff, but he was his son instead of his clone? Does it matter? No, not really. Plus, it made for some nice interactions with the clone soldiers who looked just like his dead father.

@ 13:19 and such throughout the episode

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You don't need to inform me, I've seen every TCW episode and spent a majority of my adolescent life looking on Wookieepedia. I'm well informed in regards to Star Wars.
How does it being a space opera justify bad writing?

There's always conveniences in Space Operas that wouldn't make sense in the real world. And it's your opinion that it's bad writing. Just as many people enjoy the clone change as there are who dislike it.
I dislike it because it throws aspects of Boba Fett's... vibe, I guess out the window and essentially makes him into a new character. The Man With No Name, Clint Eastwood Fett is now gone. You know why we're seeing more of kid Fett? Why we had the arc in TCW? Because they're trying to build up an entirely different character, as the old version can't be salvaged.

Give me other examples of such coincidences for your space opera statement. Outside of Star Wars.

I know I'm being abrasive, rude. And I apologize, for acting in such a way. But the prequels make me angry. Because they're bad. Bland, and outright bad, writing, poor acting (because of terrible direction, the actors wouldn't have been too bad if they had been given something other than utter shit), etc. It doesn't even feel like Star Wars, not the aesthetic, nothing. The Original Trilogy is supreme, and for a good reason.


Something else I've noticed: You're somewhat of a prequel apologist. "Oh, but TCW states that X, so that's been explained". The thing is, the prequels should be able to stand on their own two feet, we shouldn't need clarification provided by TCW. You're not taking into account the fact that TCW came after the fact. The prequels, when looked upon apart from TCW or other works, fall apart.

I actually like TCW, it makes the prequel era slightly tolerable and somewhat like Star Wars. A lot of it is just trying to clean up the mess of the prequels, and helps somewhat clear things up. The fact that it had to do so, however, is a clear indication of the poor quality of the prequel trilogy.

I take it you've never watched the Plinkett reviews?

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The Flood / Re: Words People Misuse That Piss you off!
« on: April 11, 2015, 12:00:06 AM »
I dislike it when people say "irregardless".

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The Flood / Re: Star Wars: The Digital Move Collection released today
« on: April 10, 2015, 11:47:43 PM »
>temeura morrison boba fett
>darth vader screaming no in rotj


I'll pass.

I can understand the "no" thing, but it's grown on me. Why dislike Temeura Morrison though? Makes sense, canonically speaking. Boba Fett is a clone.

Original voice actor was better. More menacing, gravelly. Sort of fit the Man With No Name vibe Boba Fett sort of had going on.

They didn't even have to change the voice. Accents aren't hereditary, contrary to what Lucas seems to think. All in all I just hate Boba Fett being a clone, there's more than one Mandalorian, I don't understand why they had to be so unoriginal.
Meh, I like Morrison's voice better. Besides, the clones in Episode II, III had the accents. Plus, Boba spent 10 years of his life with his father. He already picked up the accent.

Anyway, Jango Fett and Boba  Fett aren't Mandalorians in new canon. Jango was a rouge guy who adopted it's culture and wore the stolen armor, and Boba being a clone doesn't make him a Mandolorian either. As Lucas and Dave Filoni put it, he  thinks it make him more badass to have killed Mandalorians and taken their armor to remind him of his father. Right now the only "true" Mandalorians in canon ( true as in warmongering, other words the pacifists would count) are the Deathwatch



and Sabine Wren.



We're not talking about the new canon. Go back in time, to before episode II was released. The idea of the Mandalorians as a group of warriors with armor, Boba Fett being one of the last, existed in the canon at the time. I get Lucas was trying to cash in on OT nostalgia and toy sales with Jango, but did he have to be basically the same person? Couldn't he have been someone different with mando armor, but have made a passing reference to "some guy, Fett, I used to know. No idea what happened to him".

But no. That's a level of subtlety unknown to Lucas. What, there's more than just Boba Fett that had that armor? Naaaaah if anyone else had it they'd definitely be Boba Fett, or his genetic father. Honestly, I get they were trying to connect the PT and OT but the prequels have so many coincidences in them it's hard to take them seriously.

"Oh you know the bounty hunter who tracked Solo? Yeah he's a clone and the guy he was cloned from was also a renowned bounty hunter who was also cloned to make an entire army."

You see why I hate Boba Fett being a clone? Because it's such a stupid coincidence that it sounds like an eight year old came up with it?
I was just mentioning the Mando thing to inform.

And, Star Wars is a Sci-Fi Space Opera. Of course there's a bunch of stupid coincidences. Like Luke keeping his last name to hide from the Empire, with his family.  Or Leia turning out to be Luke's sister.

And it's not like Boba Fett being a clone detracts from his character. What if Boba went through all the same stuff, but he was his son instead of his clone? Does it matter? No, not really. Plus, it made for some nice interactions with the clone soldiers who looked just like his dead father.

@ 13:19 and such throughout the episode

YouTube


You don't need to inform me, I've seen every TCW episode and spent a majority of my adolescent life looking on Wookieepedia. I'm well informed in regards to Star Wars.
How does it being a space opera justify bad writing?

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The Flood / Re: Cute Gifs
« on: April 10, 2015, 11:42:37 PM »


This girl. This girl is pretty. This girl is pretty and her teeth are nice.

Thanks OP, improved day.

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The Flood / Re: Star Wars: The Digital Move Collection released today
« on: April 10, 2015, 11:32:35 PM »
>temeura morrison boba fett
>darth vader screaming no in rotj


I'll pass.

I can understand the "no" thing, but it's grown on me. Why dislike Temeura Morrison though? Makes sense, canonically speaking. Boba Fett is a clone.

Original voice actor was better. More menacing, gravelly. Sort of fit the Man With No Name vibe Boba Fett sort of had going on.

They didn't even have to change the voice. Accents aren't hereditary, contrary to what Lucas seems to think. All in all I just hate Boba Fett being a clone, there's more than one Mandalorian, I don't understand why they had to be so unoriginal.
Meh, I like Morrison's voice better. Besides, the clones in Episode II, III had the accents. Plus, Boba spent 10 years of his life with his father. He already picked up the accent.

Anyway, Jango Fett and Boba  Fett aren't Mandalorians in new canon. Jango was a rouge guy who adopted it's culture and wore the stolen armor, and Boba being a clone doesn't make him a Mandolorian either. As Lucas and Dave Filoni put it, he  thinks it make him more badass to have killed Mandalorians and taken their armor to remind him of his father. Right now the only "true" Mandalorians in canon ( true as in warmongering, other words the pacifists would count) are the Deathwatch



and Sabine Wren.



We're not talking about the new canon. Go back in time, to before episode II was released. The idea of the Mandalorians as a group of warriors with armor, Boba Fett being one of the last, existed in the canon at the time. I get Lucas was trying to cash in on OT nostalgia and toy sales with Jango, but did he have to be basically the same person? Couldn't he have been someone different with mando armor, but have made a passing reference to "some guy, Fett, I used to know. No idea what happened to him".

But no. That's a level of subtlety unknown to Lucas. "What, there's more guys that had that armor than Boba Fett? Naaaaah if anyone else had it they'd definitely be Boba Fett, or they'd look exactly the same because they'd be genetically identical". Honestly, I get they were trying to connect the PT and OT but the prequels have so many coincidences in them it's hard to take them seriously.

"Oh you know the bounty hunter who tracked Solo? Yeah he's a clone and the guy he was cloned from was also a renowned bounty hunter who was also cloned to make an entire army."

You see why I hate Boba Fett being a clone? Because it's such a stupid coincidence that it sounds like an eight year old came up with it? Because it take one of the cool aspects of Boba Fett's character, the only aspect, the mystery behind him, and throws it into the trash?

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The Flood / Re: Star Wars: The Digital Movie Collection released today
« on: April 10, 2015, 11:18:32 PM »
Theatrical version.

Limited version.

Do you understand the difference between those two concepts?

What is reading?



I don't even know why you're arguing. That's obviously not what I've been talking about or the rumor I was addressing.
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I actually own these. All they did was take the VHS content and write it into a DVD. On any modern high definition TV it's unwatchable. It's exactly the same as hooking a VHS player up and watching that. It's stretched and zoomed in so much that the picture is totally fucked up, the audio sucks, and it's not at all what I've been talking about. High definition, high fidelity audio, theatrical cut. No extra explosions, Greedo never gets off a shot, no early Jaba dialog, no extra CGI assets in the Tatooine scenes, etc.

You're talking about the rumored theatrical Blu-Ray releases? Disney has expressed an interest but nothings been announced.

Why did you say DVD?

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The Flood / Re: Star Wars: The Digital Move Collection released today
« on: April 10, 2015, 10:59:09 PM »
>temeura morrison boba fett
>darth vader screaming no in rotj


I'll pass.

I can understand the "no" thing, but it's grown on me. Why dislike Temeura Morrison though? Makes sense, canonically speaking. Boba Fett is a clone.

Original voice actor was better. More menacing, gravelly. Sort of fit the Man With No Name vibe Boba Fett sort of had going on.

They didn't even have to change the voice. Accents aren't hereditary, contrary to what Lucas seems to think. All in all I just hate Boba Fett being a clone, there's more than one Mandalorian, I don't understand why they had to be so unoriginal.

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The Flood / Re: Star Wars: The Digital Movie Collection released today
« on: April 10, 2015, 10:43:30 PM »
Weren't they going to release the theatrical versions on DVD? Who would want to watch the most recent updates?

Theatrical versions have been on DVD since 2006.

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The Flood / Re: Star Wars: The Digital Move Collection released today
« on: April 10, 2015, 10:41:00 PM »
>temeura morrison boba fett
>darth vader screaming no in rotj


I'll pass.

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Honestly I think RomanGladiator needs to be slapped for how he approached the issue of a fine jung Frau being a smoker, and his own goals regarding the girl.




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The Flood / Re: Watching the new Daredevil Netflix series
« on: April 10, 2015, 10:21:50 PM »
I've been meaning to ask Tackelberry who stuck a stick up your arse? You've been butthurt since yesterday.

Watching Deci rage is funny. Too bad though, he just found out there was a mute button.

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It's clearly competing with Arrow and Gotham. So far I'm not very impressed, but it's decent.

At least it's better than Gotham...

>Implying any DC live action show isn't complete shit.

The Flash is pretty good, I've heard.

The Flash goes back in time to avoid a title wave which he could have easily out ran. Your point is invalid.

To be fair, he'd have to go back in time to avoid the opening title.

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The Flood / Re: Watching the new Daredevil Netflix series
« on: April 10, 2015, 10:17:49 PM »
I've been meaning to ask Tackelberry who stuck a stick up your arse? You've been butthurt since yesterday.

Watching Deci rage is funny. Too bad though, he just found out there was a mute button.

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It's clearly competing with Arrow and Gotham. So far I'm not very impressed, but it's decent.

At least it's better than Gotham...

>Implying any DC live action show isn't complete shit.

The Flash is pretty good, I've heard.

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The Flood / Re: All of the weight, none of the fun.
« on: April 10, 2015, 10:15:17 PM »
That's the most pointless thing I've ever heard of.

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The Flood / Re: Watching the new Daredevil Netflix series
« on: April 10, 2015, 10:13:41 PM »
It's clearly competing with Arrow and Gotham. So far I'm not very impressed, but it's decent.

At least it's better than Gotham...
is that really saying much though

LOL, indeed. Turkey listed those so I figured I'd compare them.

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The Flood / Re: Watching the new Daredevil Netflix series
« on: April 10, 2015, 09:40:11 PM »
It's clearly competing with Arrow and Gotham. So far I'm not very impressed, but it's decent.

At least it's better than Gotham...

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The Flood / Re: Watching the new Daredevil Netflix series
« on: April 10, 2015, 09:39:25 PM »
>Watching Shit Devil

Deci could make a better show than that.

Are you talking about the character, or this show in particular?

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The Flood / Watching the new Daredevil Netflix series
« on: April 10, 2015, 09:29:15 PM »
Pretty good so far, on episode four. I know very little about Daredevil, but as with most of the MCU you don't really need to know much about the comics to get into it. It's set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but it has a very gritty tone, pretty close to that of the comics based on what little I know about them.

Acting is good, fight scenes are good, very intense, Dardevil isn't afraid to use rather violent interrogation measures. Rated MA, but all I've heard is "shit" so far so language isn't too bad.

I'd recommend it.

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Face, everything else is just a bonus.

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The Flood / Re: apparenlty it's #NationalSiblingDay
« on: April 10, 2015, 04:25:50 PM »
One, younger brother.

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The Flood / Re: Must-watch Documentaries
« on: April 10, 2015, 01:28:11 PM »
Inside North Korea is very interesting and simultaneously horrifying.

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The Flood / Re: small boobs are better than large boobs
« on: April 10, 2015, 01:17:08 PM »
This isn't a meme. This isn't even popular on this particular site.
GO BACK TO CHICAGO YOU UGLY HOOKED NOSE SWEDE

>doesn't even have a hooked nose

Nice try, inferior non-Swede niggerfaggot.


Just as effective as their "feminist foreign policy"...

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The Flood / Re: KOTOR IS CANON!!!
« on: April 09, 2015, 11:43:12 PM »


i swear you did this before

I actually don't recall making one, please provide a link if you can, I think I've forgotten.

different joke same picture

OK, now I remember. My apologies.

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The Flood / Re: KOTOR IS CANON!!!
« on: April 09, 2015, 11:36:24 PM »


i swear you did this before

I actually don't recall making one, please provide a link if you can, I think I've forgotten.

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The Flood / Re: KOTOR IS CANON!!!
« on: April 09, 2015, 11:18:17 PM »
Oh boy.

I've never seen this post before.

Eh, I'm bored, and not feeling too creative at the moment.

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The Flood / KOTOR IS CANON!!! EDIT: ignore thread
« on: April 09, 2015, 11:12:14 PM »
Disney confirmed it a bit ago, here's leaked concept art from an upcoming project:
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EDIT: forgot I posted this before, my apologies for the repetitious content.

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