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I do not see why these are bad things. And don't throw out rape as an example, or when the mother's life is in danger. Those are grey areas.

So what about the situation where you're well off enough financially where you could cover yourself fine, but if you had a kid, you'd both suffer greatly. Or if you're a university student who would have to drop out if you had a baby. Especially if it were an accident.

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Wanting to stem the flow of ILLEGAL immigrants is not bad.

It'll cost billions and billions of dollars to build a wall sufficient enough to keep immigrants out. And that's just from the land. They'll all just find another way to get across. Like y'know. Taking a boat. Or an airplane.

A wall would be a gigantic waste of money and it's just populist rhetoric.

I see your point in regards to the latter.

On the former, however, I vehemently disagree. Actions have consequences. It is inexcusable to deny someone the chance at life because of a mistake you made. Granted, had you not made the mistake their life would not have occurred, but because you did, their life WILL begin. I'd say denying someone life is not a proportionate response to potential financial hardship.

I don't understand how people can seriously support abortion outside of certain circumstances.

Oh my fucking God, I'm actually getting autism from reading the replies on that forum.

EXPLOSION....IMMINENT....

It's horrifying, isn't it?
All you need to know about TF.Net is that on the front page of the literature forum, there's a thread made by one of the mods called "The Diversity Manifesto"...

I think that explains the forum nicely.

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Whatever. The prequels don't feel like Star Wars. I'm done.

I suggest you read through that thread when you get the time.

I did. They seemed to be getting angry at the fact that he was stating his opinion, to the point that they ignored valid criticisms. Half of them sounded ready to perform fellatio on Lucas. Having had previous knowledge of how much TheForce.net can be a bunch of sensitive babies it doesn't surprise me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the guy is awesome or flawless, or that his reviews are either, but they seemed to be ignoring some of his valid criticisms out of outrage.

Oh. This again.


I'm sorry but I don't care about the claims of a bunch of overly sensitive manchildren. I got about eight pages in, but all I saw was overreactions. The prequels have bad dialogue, wooden acting, and feel sterile/lifeless because of the overuse of CGI.

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Watch Mr. Plinkett's reviews of the Star Wars prequels.  Sums up the ShiTrilogy very well.

I'm arguing that the plinkett reviews are good. The thread he's saying to check out is filled with a bunch of people bitching about the reviews.

Wait really?

I pulled a tl;dr on this thread lol.

Yeah lol, Tackelberry disagrees with them. I don't know why, they make excellent points.
THe thread he linked on TF.net is filled with people drastically overreacting. There's even a guy there who says (in all caps) that the Plinkett reviews are "PROPOGANDA".

U.S. Troops did bad things in the Pacific Theater. The Japanese did worse. I do not excuse the actions of certain individuals, and I am by no means saying there weren't kind Japanese soldiers, but in the grand scheme of things, there's definitely a good guy and a bad guy in WW2, which is why people are so fascinated by it.

What is a "rager"?

I like Daredevil, so does this series live up to the character?

I don't know too much about the actual comic character, but given what I know I'd say it's alright. Murdoch is Catholic, an excellent speaker/lawyer, soft-spoken, etc.

You'd probably be a better judge than me as to it's accuracy, so I'd recommend checking it out yourself.
Getting a pretty positive response, Jason Aaron (comics writer) said it was the best adaption of a Marvel character he'd seen.

1. Northeast Texas
2. Steak/Coke
3. Round face, blue eyes, pale complexion, dark circles under my eyes, dirty blond hair
4. Supreme Leader

Pretty damn gorey

Yeah I didn't expect that. Especially not the car door thing.

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This girl. This girl is pretty. This girl is pretty and her teeth are nice.

Thanks OP, improved day.

Her name is Jang Ye Won, just in case you wanted to know.

Danke.

Korra has always been really cool, so I her. Don't really know the other girls on the forum.

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Can somebody explain the Isara's tits thing?

what's to explain

she's a girl on the internet

... Touché.

Cheat.

Whatever. The prequels don't feel like Star Wars. I'm done.

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You know why we're seeing more of kid Fett? Why we had the arc in TCW? Because they're trying to build up an entirely different character, as the old version can't be salvaged.

Or because fans wanted to see him during that time period? You forget, at the time season 2 came out, the comics were still canon. Boba had tons a backstory to his character already, with or without him being a clone. I don't see the issue here. The only difference now is, TCW is the only source of canon for his character outside the movies, which of course will change as time goes on.

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Give me other examples of such coincidences for your space opera statement. Outside of Star Wars.

Then entirety of "Guardians of the Galaxy" comes to mind.

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I know I'm being abrasive, rude. And I apologize, for acting in such a way. But the prequels make me angry. Because they're bad. Bland, and outright bad, writing, poor acting (because of terrible direction, the actors wouldn't have been too bad if they had been given something other than utter shit), etc. It doesn't even feel like Star Wars, not the aesthetic, nothing. The Original Trilogy is supreme, and for a good reason.

I like the PT as much as the OT. To me it's all Star Wars, and Star Wars is awesome. The PT era has had a lot of good content come out of it, and the OT and ST are starting to get some again with Rebels, Marvel's Star Wars, and most the new books. All of which I'm loving, since the story team is doing such a good job at keeping it all tied together so far.

But Boba Fett's "mystery" just seemed to die when he got all that attention in the EU between TESB and AOTC. I see where your coming from, but as an avid reader of the old EU and such, his character just never even seemed much of a mystery outside the first two films he appeared in. So his character change and them wanting to give him a PT backstory never bothered me.

Something else I've noticed: You're somewhat of a prequel apologist. "Oh, but TCW states that X, so that's been explained". The thing is, the prequels should be able to stand on their own two feet, we shouldn't need clarification provided by TCW. You're not taking into account the fact that TCW came after the fact. The prequels, when looked upon apart from TCW or other works, fall apart.

I actually like TCW, it makes the prequel era slightly tolerable and somewhat like Star Wars. A lot of it is just trying to clean up the mess of the prequels, and helps somewhat clear things up. The fact that it had to do so, however, is a clear indication of the poor quality of the prequel trilogy.

I take it you've never watched the Plinkett reviews?

Guardians of The Galaxy? I'll have to disagree. The prequels had stupid coincidences, like the Boba Fett thing I mentioned, as in every single character ends up having a direct connection to the OT. GoTG didn't have anything that far fetched.

I fixed the formatting of that post BTW. Meh, again, it's Star Wars.

No worse than this:

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or Anakin building C-3P0


My point being, it's just what Star Wars does. I bet you if the PT came out first, the characters in the OT would have similar convenient connections to characters.

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The point I was trying to make was that there are a bunch of stupid coincidences, like Anakin building C-3P0. Boba Fett's origin is but one of those many silly coincidences. They're all bad.

If the PT came out first... yes... because it would be the same and only change in release order. I do not see what point you're trying to make.

Fine. Instead of me trying to explain how it's no big deal, tell me why it is. Why is it so terrible that 3P0 is built buy a main character of the series? Why is it so terrible that Boba interacts with characters of the PT? It doesn't hurt anything to the story. It gives a back story to those who watch the movies and want a backstory on some characters. Especially when certain characters like Boba Fett, that fans have been craving for a back story on. And then when the creator writes  avery Sci-Fi way in  a Space Opera? Why is that such a bad thing? Especially for a prequel to a trilogy that was famous for following a close nit group of characters, both good and bad?

It's not bad writing, as people that I've shown the Saga to that have never seen it don't have any issue with it, and even found it interesting. So, is it because it didn't meet your standards after 20+ years since the movie came out? Or because it didn't exactly match what you thought it would be based off some comic book? If so, you're holding someone to some ridiculously high standards. It just sounds like you're someone who still hasn't gotten over the fact that a new Star Wars movie came out 16 years ago.

All I can say is, watch the Plinkett reviews again, and actually pay attention to the points he's making. I don't like the Plinkett persona either but he makes excellent points. Honestly his actual commentary is pretty funny. Just watch them with an open mind, don't go into it with a defensive attitude.

You could watch all three reviews before I could list everything out in text.

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he views it from a film and isolated perspective, instead of as a whole story.

... That's the point. They shouldn't have to rely on other works for them to work! EACH MOVIE, EACH TRILOGY, SHOULD WORK ON IT'S OWN.


The original trilogy does! So why can't the prequel trilogy? Because it's BAD.

It's All Star Wars. And the movies seem to stand on their own to me, without the help of The Clone Wars show. But to you it doesn't, in which case I have to say: It's called the Star Wars Saga for a reason. It's meant to be watched all together.

That doesn't excuse the bad writing, or the plot holes, etc. I know what you're trying to say, but there's a difference between working better connected with the overall story, and being a flat-out nonsensical and stupid story. I feel like you should really watch the Plinkett reviews again, because he points out multiple flaws in basic plot of the film.