EA really shit the bed on this one. They've had so long to include content, and they know what fans want from this, but they played it safe with the four big-hitter maps. Those maps better be goddamn spectacular. I'm not thrilled about weapon unlocks and what appears to be a focus on first-person.

Check out my post with a link to a DICE designer's tweet.

Check out @DICEfigge's Tweet: https://twitter.com/DICEfigge/status/589208417199214592?s=09

More than eight maps.

Guessing no more than twelve at launch. Not ideal, but everyone panicking about 4 maps and ranting about Battlefront being ruined forever.

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Heroes and Villains. Yes.

Still not sure if want. Don't want to get instakilled and stomped by some dude with a Lightsaber spamming Force powers.

I'm curious as to whether it'll be OP or not, but seeing Boba Fett fly about and fire a rocket at a couple rebel scum was awesome.

Yeah good thing I always play Empire. But playing as infantry was my favorite part of Battlefront, you actually felt like a trooper in the army with a squad (some times) and you were pretty much expendable yet badass. Playing as a Hero just felt off to me.

I definitely agree, but I don't think that playing as a hero will be so common and constant as to disrupt that feeling to a significant extent.

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I have trouble getting super pumped for things now. The Force Awakens and Battlefront trailers left me emotionally drained.

Because Battlefront is confirmed shit?

I'm going to wait until it comes out before I let people who will always assume a game to be terrible and have a toxic attitude or rabid fanboys who will always assume something to be incredible tell me whether it will be good or not.

Am I excited? Yes. But I'm not putting my money on anything, or ruling out putting it down, before I make up my mind on my own.

Not going to let people who are relentlessly negative or those who are fanboys decide for me.

I have trouble getting super pumped for things now. The Force Awakens and Battlefront trailers left me emotionally drained.

Interesting. I would disagree with Kylo being a wannabe Sith though. In the trailer he definitely seems to be exemplifying some sort of force ability. I think the reason why his lightsaber is so half assed is because the knowledge and ability to construct lightsabers was lost with Darth Vader and Luke, what with him being the last Jedi and all.

He's definitely a force user, but as he likely had no-one to train him he's not a true Sith.

A big problem is that the rebels are apparently still a resistance group according to one of the plaques at the convention.

It's been like 40 years since the fall of the empire and they sti haven't formed a new republic.

We don't know that, perhaps they did, and the Galactic Civil War continued for a short while, but eventually ended when the weakened Empire splits up into factions. There is a period of tension-filled peace within the New Republic, who stand by as the Empire disintegrates and turns on itself. However, then Kylo Ren comes along, reunites it under the banner of the First Order, and overtakes the New Republic, which is then forced underground, becoming a resistance movement.

I guess we'll know when the novel Star Wars: Aftermath and Marvel's Shattered Empire release.

So I was right, perhaps we will see splinter groups of imperials?

I meam, in one of the artworks it shows the new Cape Stormtrooper leading First Order Stormtroopers, while Kylo is leading older looking Stormtrooper units.

Again, this is all speculation on my part. But as you know, in the EU the Empire disintegrated into a number of factions led by former Imperial Moffs, etc. who became warlords, utilizing their local fleets.

My thought is, Kylo Ren reunited these factions, but this reunited Empire, the First Order, is different. It's more centered around the Sith, around reclaiming their legacy (physical artifacts, such as Vader's helmet) and reestablishing their rule.

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I just can't take the stormtroopers seriously when they're all making that ridiculous anime cat smile face.

No one else sees this. Even when you post a cat for comparison no-one really sees it.

Maybe it is just me, but there's just way to much W where my mind expects juat a Λ

I definitely see where you're coming from, what with a slightly less menacing appearance, but I don't see  the anime cat thing. I don't want to come off as rude, please don't misunderstand; I just don't see it.

Unless the leader of the First Order just wants to visit places Vader has in the past.

This is what really makes me think the First Order is very much centered around the Sith. I think this Kylo Ren guy may have reunited the various factions the Empire might split into in material set post-ROTJ, but is more focused on reconnecting with the Sith legacy and reestablishing them and their rule. As a result, the Empire has become somewhat theocratic, and Kylo Ren's, and by extension the Order's, goal is to recover Sith artifacts, such as Vader's helmet, and in their eyes reclaim their legacy.

Also, seeing as the Sith were destroyed at the end of ROTJ, it's likely that Ren isn't a true Sith. This is evidenced by his more clumsily made looking lightsaber hilt as seen in the album, and thus it's more unstable-looking energy blade. Kylo Ren isn't a Sith, he's a wanna-be, a fake. I'd really like to see Kylo Ren misinterpret the events of ROTJ, thinking that Vader did in fact attempt to carry out his overthrow of Palpatine, but was somehow thwarted. Kylo Ren would idolize Vader, but would be overcome with rage when Luke reveals that Vader died Anakin Skywalker, and in fact destroyed the Sith.

Here's an album from Celebration Anaheim showing TFA costumes and props, such as new Stormtrooper armor varieties and Kylo Ren's lightsaber.

As you can see, the remnants of, or the successor to, the Galactic Empire is known as the First Order.
I'm getting an almost theocratic feel from the "First Order", which is further amplified by it's name. Take this screenshot for example:

The number of robed figures in the background. The red banner with the First Order's insignia. I'm getting a sort of Sith theocracy vibe from all of this. It's difficult to explain.

The presence of Vader's helmet, and Kylo Ren's rather clumsily made/more improvised looking lightsaber are what really makes me think the First Order is very much centered around the Sith. I think this Kylo Ren guy may have reunited the various factions the Empire might split into in the upcoming Shattered Empire comics and the Star Wars: Aftermath novel. Kylo Ren reunites these factions under the banner of the First Order.

However, this First Order is quite different from the old Empire in some aspects, being more focused on reconnecting with the Sith legacy and reestablishing them and their rule. As a result, what was once the Galactic Empire has become somewhat theocratic; and Kylo Ren's, and by extension the Order's, goal is to recover Sith artifacts, such as Vader's helmet, and in their eyes reclaim the Sith legacy.

Also, seeing as the Sith were destroyed at the end of ROTJ, it's likely that Ren isn't a true Sith. This is evidenced by his more clumsily made looking lightsaber hilt as seen in the album, and thus it's more unstable-looking energy blade. Kylo Ren isn't a Sith, he's a wanna-be, a fake. I'd really like to see Kylo Ren misinterpret the events of ROTJ, thinking that Vader did in fact attempt to carry out his overthrow of Palpatine, but was somehow thwarted. Kylo Ren would idolize Vader, but would be overcome with rage when Luke reveals that Vader died Anakin Skywalker, and in fact destroyed the Sith.

Also, one last thing of interest:


So yeah, speculate as to the nature of this "First Order", and post-ROTJ events.

Lol, I was watching the stream without sound the whole time. I'm stuck in a library at the moment without any headphones.

Well, I'm going to kill myself.

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If that's the box art I'm disappointed.

Everyone knows that only a proud Imperial Stormtrooper is to be displayed.

Doesn't look like a box art to be honest. Too dark.

It fits the style of BC2, BF3, and BF4.
Really I like it, but I just need a proud soldier of the Empire on the front.

If that's the box art I'm disappointed.

Everyone knows that only a proud Imperial Stormtrooper is to be displayed.