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1771
« on: December 17, 2016, 02:33:24 AM »
i've said it before and i'll say it again
if your order is 546321 or 546312, why even take all that time to type it out--just say "i have the most generic possible normie opinion," and we'll know exactly what you mean
Yes, because I am of course going to phrase it in a way that is insulting to myself. You guys listed them out, I did too.
1772
« on: December 17, 2016, 02:29:06 AM »
My ranking:
#1 ESB
#2 ANH
#3 RoTJ/RO
#4 TFA
#5 RoTS
#6 TPM
#7 AoTC
i'm pretty sure this is the conventionally-agreed-upon ranking--not "your" ranking
So if my opinion corresponds with most people's opinions then it's not my opinion? I think what I think and I know why. My greatest pet peeve is people telling me what I think or why I think something. Don't be so fucking condescending.
1773
« on: December 17, 2016, 02:22:30 AM »
My ranking:
#1 ESB
#2 ANH
#3 RoTJ/RO
#4 TFA
#5 RoTS
#6 TPM
#7 AoTC
1774
« on: December 17, 2016, 02:16:31 AM »
Fanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here.
Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going
"REMEMBER THIS? ?"
Yeah yeah I get it. Mind you, I haven't seen the film for about seven months, I didn't really remember the fanservice stuff.
Again, I just really hated the Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba cameo, it struck me as so out of place. The rest of the fanservice wasn't that bad.
Meh, we've had Greedo fight George Lucas.
Complaining about other characters showing up in situations is moot at this point. It's certainly less of a stretch to believe they were on that planet than it is to believe "OH NO, SHEEV WAN'T THE SUPER BAD GUY, THERE'S AN EVEN SUPERER BADER GUY CALLED SNOKE, AND THERE'S A FROG LADY (NOT YODA THO) THAT KNOWS ABOUT THE FORCE AND THE SKYWALKERS ANDIS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD!!!11!"
No one ever said Palpatine wasn't the super bad guy or that Snoke was necessarily better. Snoke is just older and isn't a Sith. I think the guys in charge of the new canon are smart enough not to marginalize Palply.
Also nothing wrong with Maz being really old. She isn't as strong in the force as Yoda, she just knows it is a thing.
I am a massive OT fan but just because the OT came first doesn't mean that certain characters from it have to be the "-est" in regards to qualities (with a few exceptions). Yoda doesn't have to be the Oldest (although most powerful yes, and he still is), and Max being older in no way makes Yoda any lesser. Yoda was certainly wiser and more knowledgeable.
Palpatine not being as super old as Snoke isn't bad, remember that Snoke isn't the one who took over the fucking Galaxy.
Look I have issues with TFA too, but it did get some things right. Finn and Kylo Ren were great, and Rey needs work in the character arc department obviously, and while it irritates me that it wasn't present in TFA it could very much surface in 8 with Rian Johnson at the helm.
I don't have an issue with new threats. I have an issue with the new threats being presented as a greater threat than before (whether Snoke is better than sheev is to be determined, but that's how it's to be interpreted in TFA), but yet we somehow never knew about them during the 60 years of the Star Wars timeline.
You'd think Sheev, who spent his whole life planning to create the Empire, and who in TCW and ROTS made sure no one of any significance could stand up to him would be able to detect or want Snoke destroyed. I
I'm sure the writers and story group have a good explaination in the upcoming films, but as it stands now, its just silly.
I just try to keep in mind that 7 is the first in a trilogy, and that Abrams just happens to like Star Wars (the film, not the franchise) so damn much that he made it again. From what I understand Disney wasn't extremely hands on with the creative process, and it is Abrams that really made 7 Star Wars: Greatest Hits. Rian Johnson is great and I think that eight will end up being a much better film.
Rian Johnson does have greater appreciation for the saga as a whole, which is good. If rumors and leaked scripts are true, I can't wait to see the OT circlejerker's reactions when pic related comes on screen.
I don't think people would care as much now. The reason people were really pissed is because 1) a deceased actor who was in the film had part of his contribution ripped away, it was slightly disrespectful. It would have been alright if they provided the original version top, but that leads me to 2) they refused to include the original versions, so the original version, with he original Anakin, is lost for the time being unless you get it through.. certain means. I know you are a prequel fan, and deride people who prefer the OT for being upset with the changes but we do have an argument. We should have the original versions as well as the SE. Also if we see Anakin's ghost I think the best option would be to age Hayden a tad, and make him look closer to Shaw. Give him a shorter haircut. I think this would please most.
1775
« on: December 17, 2016, 02:03:13 AM »
Fanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here.
Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going
"REMEMBER THIS??"
Yeah yeah I get it. Mind you, I haven't seen the film for about seven months, I didn't really remember the fanservice stuff.
Again, I just really hated the Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba cameo, it struck me as so out of place. The rest of the fanservice wasn't that bad.
Meh, we've had Greedo fight George Lucas.
Complaining about other characters showing up in situations is moot at this point. It's certainly less of a stretch to believe they were on that planet than it is to believe "OH NO, SHEEV WAN'T THE SUPER BAD GUY, THERE'S AN EVEN SUPERER BADER GUY CALLED SNOKE, AND THERE'S A FROG LADY (NOT YODA THO) THAT KNOWS ABOUT THE FORCE AND THE SKYWALKERS ANDIS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD!!!11!"
No one ever said Palpatine wasn't the super bad guy or that Snoke was necessarily better. Snoke is just older and isn't a Sith. I think the guys in charge of the new canon are smart enough not to marginalize Palply.
Also nothing wrong with Maz being really old. She isn't as strong in the force as Yoda, she just knows it is a thing.
I am a massive OT fan but just because the OT came first doesn't mean that certain characters from it have to be the "-est" in regards to qualities (with a few exceptions). Yoda doesn't have to be the Oldest (although most powerful yes, and he still is), and Max being older in no way makes Yoda any lesser. Yoda was certainly wiser and more knowledgeable.
Palpatine not being as super old as Snoke isn't bad, remember that Snoke isn't the one who took over the fucking Galaxy.
Look I have issues with TFA too, but it did get some things right. Finn and Kylo Ren were great, and Rey needs work in the character arc department obviously, and while it irritates me that it wasn't present in TFA it could very much surface in 8 with Rian Johnson at the helm.
I don't have an issue with new threats. I have an issue with the new threats being presented as a greater threat than before (whether Snoke is better than sheev is to be determined, but that's how it's to be interpreted in TFA), but yet we somehow never knew about them during the 60 years of the Star Wars timeline.
You'd think Sheev, who spent his whole life planning to create the Empire, and who in TCW and ROTS made sure no one of any significance could stand up to him would be able to detect or want Snoke destroyed. I
I'm sure the writers and story group have a good explaination in the upcoming films, but as it stands now, its just silly.
I just try to keep in mind that 7 is the first in a trilogy, and that Abrams just happens to like Star Wars (the film, not the franchise) so damn much that he made it again. From what I understand Disney wasn't extremely hands on with the creative process, and it is Abrams that really made 7 Star Wars: Greatest Hits. Rian Johnson is great and I think that eight will end up being a much better film.
1776
« on: December 17, 2016, 01:50:06 AM »
Fanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here.
Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going
"REMEMBER THIS??"
Yeah yeah I get it. Mind you, I haven't seen the film for about seven months, I didn't really remember the fanservice stuff.
Again, I just really hated the Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba cameo, it struck me as so out of place. The rest of the fanservice wasn't that bad.
Meh, we've had Greedo fight George Lucas.
Complaining about other characters showing up in situations is moot at this point. It's certainly less of a stretch to believe they were on that planet than it is to believe "OH NO, SHEEV WAN'T THE SUPER BAD GUY, THERE'S AN EVEN SUPERER BADER GUY CALLED SNOKE, AND THERE'S A FROG LADY (NOT YODA THO) THAT KNOWS ABOUT THE FORCE AND THE SKYWALKERS ANDIS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD!!!11!"
No one ever said Palpatine wasn't the super bad guy or that Snoke was necessarily better. Snoke is just older and isn't a Sith. I think the guys in charge of the new canon are smart enough not to marginalize Palply. Also nothing wrong with Maz being really old. She isn't as strong in the force as Yoda, she just knows it is a thing. I am a massive OT fan but just because the OT came first doesn't mean that certain characters from it have to be the "-est" in regards to qualities (with a few exceptions). Yoda doesn't have to be the Oldest (although most powerful yes, and he still is), and Max being older in no way makes Yoda any lesser. Yoda was certainly wiser and more knowledgeable. Palpatine not being as super old as Snoke isn't bad, remember that Snoke isn't the one who took over the fucking Galaxy. Look I have issues with TFA too, but it did get some things right. Finn and Kylo Ren were great, and Rey needs work in the character arc department obviously, and while it irritates me that it wasn't present in TFA it could very much surface in 8 with Rian Johnson at the helm.
1777
« on: December 17, 2016, 01:35:16 AM »
1778
« on: December 17, 2016, 01:18:35 AM »
Honestly the part about CG Tarkin that I found most distracting was the voice. They didn't use Stephen Stanton, who does the best Tarkin (he voiced him in TCW and Rebels).
I haven't watched Rogue One yet(watching it tomorrow) and I already knew that Tarkin was going to be in the movie somehow. Peter Cushing's look is Tarkin to me and that voice actor for him in the animated shows does a great job at portraying the character.
Having someone else be the role of Tarkin or anyone else in Star Wars would just throw the character off. That's why I have no interest in the Han Solo movie.
Yeah. Tarkins VA in the film isn't bad, but he isn't as good as Stanton.
I haven't seen the film yet, but are you sure it isn't the TCW/Rebels voice? You'd think they'd stick with it.
It isn't. The accent isn't as pronounced as it was with Cushing and Stanton. In RO he didn't roll the R's like he usually does. I think they didn't go with Stanton because of issues regarding mo-cap. The guy who they stuck the CGI Tarkin mask on was Guy Henry, and while I haven't heard his voice before I think they went with his voice e in order to make the effect look better, so they didn't have to worry about synching the mouth movements as much.
1779
« on: December 17, 2016, 12:45:06 AM »
Honestly the part about CG Tarkin that I found most distracting was the voice. They didn't use Stephen Stanton, who does the best Tarkin (he voiced him in TCW and Rebels).
I haven't watched Rogue One yet(watching it tomorrow) and I already knew that Tarkin was going to be in the movie somehow. Peter Cushing's look is Tarkin to me and that voice actor for him in the animated shows does a great job at portraying the character.
Having someone else be the role of Tarkin or anyone else in Star Wars would just throw the character off. That's why I have no interest in the Han Solo movie.
Yeah. Tarkins VA in the film isn't bad, but he isn't as good as Stanton.
1780
« on: December 17, 2016, 12:07:26 AM »
In regards to the characters, I really like Krennic but I thought he was underused. I liked how in the beginning he seems all powerful, but once we meet Tarkin and Vader it's clear they are very much out of his league, and Krennic starts to come across as petty and small.
It helps that I read the Catalyst novel, which is just about Galen, Krennic, and has a little bit pf Krennic/Tarkin conflict. Krennic sees Tarkin as a rival, but this feeling is certainly not mutual. Tarkin saw Krennic as a joke long before the events of RO.
I didn't like Whittaker as Saw. I think that character suffered a lot from the reshoots.
1781
« on: December 17, 2016, 12:03:27 AM »
Yeah, I need to process it, but having JUST got back from it, I can say I safely feel the majority of the movie was slow as shit, but the ending was a big pay off.
Spoiler The Vader scene at the end with him desperately trying to get the plans and the rebel trying to get away really made it feel as dark as Episode 3, and I loved every second of it.
And yeah, question, am I the only one that thought the majority of the movie was dark as HECK? Like, 80% of it was so damn dark.
The part with the crying child in the city firefight felt really dark. I guess they included that to illustrate how Saw's tactics put civilians in danger
Honestly, that part distracted me because of how the child was just standing there stupidly looking up and crying. If she looked around more frantically while crying, and maybe holding an arm close to herself, I'd have felt much more sympathetic. But all I thought was "that was just bad direction to give the child acting it out". It just came off as silly to me.
Eh, it didn't bother me. A small child would just be terrified and wouldn't know what to do. They don't necessarily know they could be killed, they just find what's happening scary and don't know what to do. They're expecting a parent to come along and comfort them.
1782
« on: December 16, 2016, 11:38:40 PM »
Yeah, I need to process it, but having JUST got back from it, I can say I safely feel the majority of the movie was slow as shit, but the ending was a big pay off.
Spoiler The Vader scene at the end with him desperately trying to get the plans and the rebel trying to get away really made it feel as dark as Episode 3, and I loved every second of it.
And yeah, question, am I the only one that thought the majority of the movie was dark as HECK? Like, 80% of it was so damn dark.
The part with the crying child in the city firefight felt really dark. I guess they included that to illustrate how Saw's tactics put civilians in danger
1783
« on: December 16, 2016, 11:18:00 PM »
Fanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here.
Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going
"REMEMBER THIS??"
The only time I felt that with Rogue One was the stupid blue milk in the beginning. But it wasn't as in your face as the chess board thing from TFA, or whatever else they managed to throw in your face that my mind blocked off.
I guess I just really didn't like the Dr. Evazan (fucked up face guy) and Ponda Baba (walrus man) cameo. I thought it was really shoehorned. Other than that, now that I think of it I am leaning towards your stance.
1784
« on: December 16, 2016, 10:33:37 PM »
people should instead be boycotting it because its a garbage movie
Garbage?
Everything I've read an heard puts it at a C+/B- tier movie. Yeah, it's not great, but not garbage.
Unless, of course, you are a part of the alt right and are attempting to have people join your boycott.
rogue one does nothing interesting or new with the ip. its not worth caring about. just like garbage.
thats my definition. there aren't varying degrees of it -- there's just garbage.
that being said i dont legitimately care if anyone sees the movie or not. i would rather not take some of my very little free time and money to go see it, but thats just me.
Have you seen the film? It tries a new tone and cinematic style, which I consider to be interesting. It tries something new unlike TFA
1785
« on: December 16, 2016, 09:59:54 PM »
Characters aren't as good as TFA You mean taking the ANH script, crossing out "Luke" and writing "Rey"?
I think you mean taking ANH's shitty script and actually making it work.
Try harder.
To what?
please elaborate, because
>Hating the sand line
Nice opinion. Did you think of that before or after you watched Plinkett?
People hated that line long before Plinkett. Also Why aren't you using your Tackelberry account
1786
« on: December 16, 2016, 03:30:45 PM »
Characters aren't as good as TFA You mean taking the ANH script, crossing out "Luke" and writing "Rey"?
I think you mean taking ANH's shitty script and actually making it work.
Try harder.
1787
« on: December 16, 2016, 03:10:35 PM »
Characters aren't as good as TFA
You mean taking the ANH script, crossing out "Luke" and writing "Rey"?
I mean the fact that we can actually remember who the new characters are.
1788
« on: December 16, 2016, 06:46:07 AM »
This is why I wait two weeks before seeing a movie. Four if I know it's going to be in the theaters for awhile.
Personally I don't think it's a horrible film, certainly worth seeing once just to see for yourself. People seem to be somewhat divided on the film. I think I would give it a 7/10.
1789
« on: December 16, 2016, 05:51:42 AM »
Spoiler Also, am I the only one who laughed to themself and loves the fact that Vader lives in fucking Mordor? His house is basically Barad-dûr.
I thought it was really great that the brought back the Vader's castle idea from ESB concept art and the EU (Bast castle)
1790
« on: December 16, 2016, 05:43:32 AM »
Honestly the part about CG Tarkin that I found most distracting was the voice. They didn't use Stephen Stanton, who does the best Tarkin (he voiced him in TCW and Rebels).
1791
« on: December 16, 2016, 05:38:09 AM »
I enjoyed the film, and funny enough I think I enjoyed it more than The Force Awakens. I don't know, it just feels like something new, i.e. it's not Jedi vs Sith for the 1000th time. It's not without flaws, though. The characters weren't...horribly developed, but it was just weird at times, like
Spoiler When Jyn is mad that Cassian almost fulfilled orders to kill Mads, and upset that the Rebels bombed her dad to hell. Next scene, she seems cool with all of them.
However, I appreciated the somewhat darker atmosphere, the wonderful attempts at bringing Tarkin and young Leia back through CGI (I barely noticed Tarkin's CGI, but it was kind of weird when he talked). And those Vader scenes...just absolutely badass.
I'd say it's a 8 or 9/10. Not perfect, but still a nice movie to watch.
Like TFA I need to see it again in order to better formulate my opinion on the film. It's kind of overwhelming trying to take everything in, and it doesn't help that the people sitting next to me were so fucking annoying I was barely paying attention for the first half.
You're the third person I know that's sat next to shitty people. Thankfully the theater was packed so I had to take a third-row seat. There was a guy in the upper rows that kept having these horrible choking and hacking fits during emotional scenes and he was loud as shit.
It really sucks, because I got great seats (I arrived at 8:45, movie started at 10:25), but the two most annoying people in the theater sat next two me. It was some fat fuck basement dweller and his fat fuck mother. The both ate throughout the entire movie, rustling the paper wrapping of their food in the most loud manner possible, and the mother wouldn't shut the fuck up. Her phone rang twice during the beginning of the film, and whenever ANYTHING happened she would loudly react to it. Somebody got hit? "Ouch!" at a volume that everyone could hear. She had an awful, awful laugh that was basically one really loud high pitched "Hah!", and she laughed about every thirty seconds, mostly at things that weren't even funny. She also reeked of cigarettes. I know that the first half was pretty jumbled, but I can barely remember it at all because of them. I was really tempted to lean over to the son and whisper "can you rustle that wrapping paper any fucking louder please?"
1792
« on: December 16, 2016, 05:29:31 AM »
I enjoyed the film, and funny enough I think I enjoyed it more than The Force Awakens. I don't know, it just feels like something new, i.e. it's not Jedi vs Sith for the 1000th time. It's not without flaws, though. The characters weren't...horribly developed, but it was just weird at times, like
Spoiler When Jyn is mad that Cassian almost fulfilled orders to kill Mads, and upset that the Rebels bombed her dad to hell. Next scene, she seems cool with all of them.
However, I appreciated the somewhat darker atmosphere, the wonderful attempts at bringing Tarkin and young Leia back through CGI (I barely noticed Tarkin's CGI, but it was kind of weird when he talked). And those Vader scenes...just absolutely badass.
I'd say it's a 8 or 9/10. Not perfect, but still a nice movie to watch.
Like TFA I need to see it again in order to better formulate my opinion on the film. It's kind of overwhelming trying to take everything in, and it doesn't help that the people sitting next to me were so fucking annoying I was barely paying attention for the first half.
1793
« on: December 16, 2016, 03:51:00 AM »
Ah, I remember this show
1794
« on: December 16, 2016, 03:48:35 AM »
SO FUNNY.
1795
« on: December 16, 2016, 02:40:22 AM »
God bless your soul painting the white.
I've been working in mine, but I learned the hard way why you should always prime
That looks wonderful! I will flop my decomposing ass out of bed and roll over to you in my swag wheelchair and do a fucking ollie on your grave if you don't follow through with not painting all your dudes shades of black.
Good paint job though.
This is a space marine, and my Space Marines are from the Black Templars chapter (Teutonic Knights in SPAAAAAAACE) so they are, naturally, black. The guys I am not painting black are from a different faction entirely, the Adeptus Mechanicus Skitarii. I am still waiting for mine to arrive in the mail.
1796
« on: December 16, 2016, 02:36:12 AM »
It's not a polished film, unlike TFA. From a creative perspective, I respect RO more than TFA though. Edwards at least tried to do something new. Characters aren't as good as TFA, but characters were also more important to that film because we will be stuck with them for two more movies.
Fanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here. Feels like Disney Corporate decisions IMO.
They adapted an old EU concept Spoiler Bast castle; Vader lives in the dark land of Mordor when he's not bitch slappin' rebel scum
Also the very very end of the film is ABSOLUTELY MAGICAL.
I do agree that it's good they at least tried to do something different. But I swear the same thing happened here like with Suicide Squad with reshoots changing characters' involvement, and the general flow of the movie for the worse.
Yeah. Really, I want to see the director's original cut. I feel like the first half was as awkward as it was because a lot of stuff was cut. Just my speculation. I think the world building was better than TFA by far. The movie has problems but it feels like a movie set in the very same universe as the original films. I liked seeing all the different locations even if it was jarring jumping from place to place.
1797
« on: December 16, 2016, 01:48:19 AM »
It's not a polished film, unlike TFA. From a creative perspective, I respect RO more than TFA though. Edwards at least tried to do something new. Characters aren't as good as TFA, but characters were also more important to that film because we will be stuck with them for two more movies. Fanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here. Feels like Disney Corporate decisions IMO. They adapted an old EU concept Spoiler Bast castle; Vader lives in the dark land of Mordor when he's not bitch slappin' rebel scum Also the very very end of the film is ABSOLUTELY MAGICAL.
1798
« on: December 16, 2016, 01:36:13 AM »
Spoiler it isn't perfect, but because of the nature of what they did (given the uncanny valley effect) it could never be perfect. Basically it only looked off when Tarkin talked.
1799
« on: December 15, 2016, 10:04:12 AM »
"white woman"
Greeks aren't white m9
Was just about to mention this.
I like that they had to point out that (they think) she's white, as if her race was relevant at all.
Of course it is, she's privileged. She can't be a role model for the non-toilet seat complexion, self identifying girls and "girls" out there.
I don't know about you guys but whenever I am watching a movie or playing a game whenever there is a character who isn't of my ethnic background or gender I have to imagine them as a white man in orded to emphasize at all. When playing tomb raider I have to imagine Laurel Kraft with a mustache.
It's not like there are any themes that exist regarding humanity and human experience that transcends racial and gender boundaries or anything. Such an idea is absurd.
No no no, wr all need our own specially designed role model that fits every demographic that we are a part of.
That's a little overboard tbh. There's nothing wrong with viewing the world with a different set of eyes, be it a different gender or race.
If you can't empathize with someone different from yourself you're an asshole.
I think we may be in agreement, but you might he misunderstanding my post or vice versa.
My post was sarcastic. I was saying that while there is nothing wrong with diversity the idea that you can't identify with someone unless they are in the exact sane demographic groups is stupid. Most things in media transcend race and gender. Things like morality, honor, responsibility, etc.
The whole putting a mustache on Laura triggered me, but yeah identifying with others is pretty easy fam
The mustache things was a joke
1800
« on: December 15, 2016, 07:56:39 AM »
Spoiler  Behold, Initiate Smashfucker of the Cashew Crusade. Credit to chally for originally commenting that the base looked like crushed up cashews
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