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Gaming / Re: So I just spent twelve hours downloading the latest GwG
« on: November 17, 2014, 04:52:54 PM »
Is it free or just discounted? It doesn't even show up on my dashboard and it's $20 on xbox.com.

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Serious / Re: True randomness: Does it exist?
« on: November 17, 2014, 03:12:29 PM »
I guess if we're distinguishing between uncertainty and randomness, I'd have to say that a true, pure randomness probably doesn't exist. Third law, bruh. Everything has an impulse for it's behavior, regardless of how observable it is.

But there's plenty of other cases where randomness in more vernacular sense is appropriate, like I in statistics. We typically call something stochastic or random when its cause is indeterminate or beyond the scope of the research. It doesn't follow a uniform behavior, but it does follow a definable probability distribution.

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Serious / Re: Another strike against Keynesianism
« on: November 17, 2014, 03:08:58 PM »
Well yeah, the point of quantitative easing is to raise that asset's price. Not sure why they expected anything otherwise.
Because Keynesians think monetary policy is ineffective at the ZLB.
I have no clue what that means
Basically, as soon as interest rates hit zero, there's nothing the Fed can do.
Can't they artificially hike up rates though?
Except you don't want that during a recovery. Rates are low in order to stimulate borrowing.
So why are rates hitting zero bad?
It's supposed to be bad because it stops monetary policy being effective. I'm arguing that's wrong.
Keynesian economics makes very little sense.

FTFY

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Serious / Re: What are the strongest arguments for God?
« on: November 17, 2014, 11:43:04 AM »
The existence of the universe and the third law of motion. I can post more substantial things but the vibe I get from this forum is generally hostile to this subject material.

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News / Re: Why You Should Play: This War of Mine
« on: November 17, 2014, 11:40:50 AM »
Is it an Indie game? Available on Steam, I presume? Looks fun. I like games that can pull of a mature feel without putting a rifle in your hands and telling you to go kill hundreds of bad guys.

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Serious / Re: True randomness: Does it exist?
« on: November 17, 2014, 10:59:05 AM »
Heisenberg's Uncertainty implies a randomness to behavior of subatomic particles, and quantum mechanics necessitates randomness at a quantum level. Radioactive decay is also a random process.

But in typical day-to-day stuff? No, everything has a cause and effect, but the inability to perceive those causes leads to labeling something as random.

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Serious / Re: Another strike against Keynesianism
« on: November 17, 2014, 10:51:00 AM »
Well yeah, the point of quantitative easing is to raise that asset's price. Not sure why they expected anything otherwise.

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Serious / Re: Another physics question -- Dimensions
« on: November 15, 2014, 05:16:08 PM »
I'm on my phone so I'm gonna tldr most of this, but basically time is the fourth dimension but it's not spacial, like the three dimensions were used to.You wouldn't graph it spacially.

And yes, 0, 1, and 2 dimensional objects exist, just not in a conventionally meaningful way. I can post more later.

Also, string theory is dumb.

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Quote from: GodspeedGojira!
I might just do some small breakdowns of basic mathematical logic for people. Seems like people are interested in this stuff. And it's a way to keep me with math in Serious while still not breaching the Turkeyzone XD

You can breach the Turkeyzone any time you want ;)

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I think you guys give me too much credit sometimes. I'm not a master of math, and I'm really weak on proofs.

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Serious / Re: The official what religion are you + discussion thread
« on: November 15, 2014, 05:03:01 PM »
Christian, and I prefer a Lutheran service though I currently go to a protestant/noon-denominational church.

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Serious / Re: Physicists/engineers/mathy people, I have a physics question
« on: November 15, 2014, 12:18:44 PM »
Beam energy through an atmosphere? Yep. Beam energy through solid material, like metal or concrete? No conceivable way. What they could do is have a mobile power station that they could leave at a safe location, have energy beamed to that from orbit, and then swap out battery packs from there. I kind of figured that's what the covenant did with their weapon crates (the purple/red ones with like 8 guns in them). They could also carry a charging unit with them and recharge when they need to, as long as they have line of sight.

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Serious / Re: ITT I learn you about some math: Gabriel's Horn
« on: November 14, 2014, 05:22:53 PM »
Considering I'm only in advanced math, I surprisingly understood all of that.
Advanced math? This is the kind of stuff we are taught to understand at age 13-14 here.

I can guarantee you weren't learning triple integrals at 14.

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Serious / Re: It's time to reflect
« on: November 14, 2014, 01:01:22 PM »
If you can get away with it, fucking do it.

If you're not cheating, you're not trying.

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Serious / Re: Why are fraternities still a thing?
« on: November 14, 2014, 12:58:51 PM »
They're not all bad. They can be really useful for networking and typically they have higher GPA's and graduation rates than the general student body, and most members find them really fun. Sure there are outliers, but on a while fraternities are benevolent.

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Although you're still paying for friends and allowing yourself to be denigrated and hazed to fit in is pretty demeaning in my opinion.

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Septagon / Re: Do you like the new banners?
« on: November 14, 2014, 11:33:30 AM »
I liked the Serious banner. It looked like my state flag:


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Serious / Re: ITT I learn you about some math: Gabriel's Horn
« on: November 14, 2014, 11:27:59 AM »
Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that non terminating numbers are infinite in value?
This thread makes me want to do a series of threads where I *try to help clear up some mathematical misconceptions the non-math plebs have.

Although I'm not sure how many views it'd get.

I'm down for it. You and Turkey Math-ifying the Serious forums would be spectacular
Tbh turkey'd probably be more suitable for it, not only is he better at math than me, I'm also not much of a thread maker, but I'm willing to give a shot.

I'm not huge on making threads, either. When I made this thread I was thinking something similar; if people responded well, I'd post more stuff later. Not sure what to cover next though.

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Serious / Re: Native Americans
« on: November 14, 2014, 11:13:38 AM »
The conquering of Native Americans isn't put on the same level with the Nazi holocaust because conquering a territory was kind of the thing to do back then. The British Empire was pretty big on that. But the Nazi holocaust was different because the world thought they'd reached an era of peace. They'd just finished the War to End All Wars, and most powerful nations had stopped their rampant imperialism and conquering. Globalized economy was replacing the need for territorial power struggles. So when the Nazis suddenly began waging war, it took the world by surprise. And the nature of the holocaust was much different too, because it wasn't the Nazis conquering a land and driving away its people, but the systematic capture and execution of several ethnic groups for the sake of killing them.

I'd also contest the claim that there even was a Native American genocide. The overwhelming majority of deaths were from diseases the Europeans carried over, not from aggression on their part. Genocide is intentional; mass-deaths due to introducing foreign diseases was inevitable.

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Serious / Re: ITT I learn you about some math: Gabriel's Horn
« on: November 14, 2014, 07:28:07 AM »
Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?

Like I said, an irrational number is still constant. There's no such thing as an 'infinite number'.

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Serious / Re: ITT I learn you about some math: Gabriel's Horn
« on: November 14, 2014, 01:27:22 AM »
Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.

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Serious / Re: ITT I learn you about some math: Gabriel's Horn
« on: November 13, 2014, 11:09:44 PM »
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What's the limit of 1/x (or 1/x^2) as x reaches zero? It's zero. One divided by a really huge number is basically 0.

heheheheeh

Dammit Goji.

(Thanks)

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Serious / ITT I learn you about some math: Gabriel's Horn
« on: November 13, 2014, 10:57:58 PM »
First step, graph 1/x. Unless you're literally a toddler, you should know what this looks like, even you hippy poli-sci mofos:

 

Goddamn beautiful. But negatives are stupid so let's pretend that only numbers on the x axis exist from 1 to infinity.
Now here's where you strap on your big-boy pocket protector. Take that 2D graph, and spin that shit around the x axis. Here's what you get:



Welcome to calculus 3, integrals in three dimensions.

Why am I showing you this? This object, called Gabriel's Horn because of the Bible or some shit, has a couple interesting properties. First of all, it has infinite surface area. This might not sound so surprising because it goes on to the right for infinity. Cool, so if you have an object with literally infinite surface area, meaning it has a shell that goes on infinitely, then how much stuff can you put in it? Probably infinite volume, right? Or damn-near close (because limits or derivatives or something you heard in high school once)?

Fuck no, this shape actually has a volume of exactly pi. Infinite area on the outside, finite volume on the inside. But why is the volume equal to pi?

This shape is, essentially, an infinite set of 2D circles stacked on each other, and the area of each circle is pi*r^2 (this is like 4th grade, try to keep up). I already gave you the radius: it's 1/x. Just look at the first graph for like 10 seconds and it'll click.

So in Calculus, you can find a way to find the volume of all those circles: it's the sum of the area of each 2D circle, until infinity.

So we know the area of any of the circles is:

π*r^2 = π*(1/x)^2 = π/(x^2)

Anyone that's heard of limits can see where this is going. Take the integral of this function from 1 to infinity and you get pi. Why? Because of limits, dumbass.



What's the limit of 1/x (or 1/x^2) as x reaches infinity? It's zero. One divided by a really huge number is basically 0. So when the effect of the radius becomes insignificant, all we have left is π. /math

Turkey, out.


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They're God-fearing hetero-American men, too.

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The Flood / Re: Comment one word, and tell a story!
« on: November 13, 2014, 11:57:27 AM »
Little Jimmy was walking through the forest when......

...holocaust.

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Serious / Re: How intelligent do you see me as?
« on: November 13, 2014, 11:55:27 AM »
I think you're really bright and it pisses me off when you know more about stuff than I do.

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The Flood / Re: Pierce Brosnan was the penultimate Bond
« on: November 13, 2014, 11:48:03 AM »
Penultimate means 'second worst'.
or "second-to-last"


Daniel Craig is the ultimate Bond; the last Bond.
Pierce Brosnan is the penultimate Bond; the second-to-last Bond.

So you're literally asking if we agree that Pierce Brosnan played Bond before Craig?

Yes, I agree.

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The Flood / Re: Pierce Brosnan was the penultimate Bond
« on: November 13, 2014, 11:44:56 AM »
Penultimate means 'second last/worst'.


Daniel Craig was great, and I loved Casino Royale, but stripping him of gadgets and support in Skyfall was a bad decision in my opinion.

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Serious / Re: Get your long-ass political titles here! [Quiz]
« on: November 13, 2014, 11:40:43 AM »
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You are a: Conservative Anti-Government Interventionist Traditionalist

Collectivism score: -50%
Authoritarianism score: -17%
Internationalism score: 33%
Tribalism score: 0%
Liberalism score: -33%

Oh

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I don't think I'm anti-government.

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The Flood / Re: Go see Interstellar.
« on: November 12, 2014, 09:49:39 PM »
Hope I get a chance to see it soon!  Was planning on seeing it earlier but stuff 
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[PS I might be off the internet for quite a bit]


y

I'm going through the wormhole myself, I'm watching it on the mythical infinity mm "IMAXIMUM" screen and trying to take it all in.

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Immediate future IRL isn't looking too bright, gotta get through it first and then go back to posting my trash everywhere XD

I know dat feel. This upcoming week is literally the most stressful I've ever had. Good luck brojira.

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The Flood / Re: Go see Interstellar.
« on: November 12, 2014, 09:20:53 PM »
Hope I get a chance to see it soon!  Was planning on seeing it earlier but stuff 
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[PS I might be off the internet for quite a bit]


y

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Serious / Re: Judicial Restraint or Activism
« on: November 12, 2014, 08:33:26 PM »
In a democratic society where legislation should be a direct extension of the will of the people via elections,

Ok. Now how about in America?

The same, because that's what America is.

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