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« on: January 18, 2015, 07:55:30 PM »
It'd be incompatible with my beliefs to say it doesn't, but I think the mainstream idea is highly romanticized and inconsistent with most sources of theology.
7262
« on: January 18, 2015, 07:53:48 PM »
So you're saying the Bible is the most credible of all holy books? Unquestionably, yes.
And do you really think Jesus rose from the dead or is that supposed to be figurative?
If it were figurative then there'd be no Christianity. Something that can't overcome death can hardly be called a deity.
How do you explain that though? Somebody literally rising from the dead makes no sense scientifically today, and it's pretty far-fetched to get people to believe, don't you think?
I mean, if you're willing to assume the reality of an omnipotent being, then I don't think that same being resurrecting a corporeal part of itself is a huge stretch of the imagination.
Isn't that blatantly breaking the laws this universe follows, though? Why would God create the laws of physics just to break them later on, if he knows everything that has been and will be?
I'm confused; where is death covered in the laws of physics? The laws of motion don't discuss it, nor do the laws of thermodynamics, fluid dynamics, or any other field. Already we're grasping the ways to manipulate the world around us to prolong life, and pull someone back from the brink. It's not unbelievable that if humanity continues to prosper, death may soon become a thing of the past (and by 'soon' I'm speaking in the scope of all of human existence). Whether that's through the 'singularity' or by advanced medicine is only speculation. To think that a being with access to ostensibly infinite information, or even literally in direct control of the entire universe, couldn't do something as simple as resurrect a human body after three days is simply untenable. If you're interested in more of a scientific approach to theology, check out John Polkinghorne. He's an eminent physicist and an Anglican priest that is arguably the leader in bridging the fields of religion and science. For a logic-based orator, check out Ravi Zacharias, one of the foremost theologians alive today.
7263
« on: January 18, 2015, 07:36:21 PM »
So you're saying the Bible is the most credible of all holy books? Unquestionably, yes.
And do you really think Jesus rose from the dead or is that supposed to be figurative?
If it were figurative then there'd be no Christianity. Something that can't overcome death can hardly be called a deity.
How do you explain that though? Somebody literally rising from the dead makes no sense scientifically today, and it's pretty far-fetched to get people to believe, don't you think?
I mean, if you're willing to assume the reality of an omnipotent being, then I don't think that same being resurrecting a corporeal part of itself is a huge stretch of the imagination.
7264
« on: January 18, 2015, 07:28:50 PM »
So you're saying the Bible is the most credible of all holy books? Unquestionably, yes. And do you really think Jesus rose from the dead or is that supposed to be figurative?
If it were figurative then there'd be no Christianity. Something that can't overcome death can hardly be called a deity.
7265
« on: January 18, 2015, 06:58:33 PM »
Not really, they had very little to gain. The apostles all died from torture, execution, or exile. No reason to lie about seeing him after his death, especially the ones that weren't even Jews.
To continue spreading faith in Jesus? Who knows
We're talking about nearly 2000 year old texts that were written by a few men, and little way to prove any of it is real.
Well the NT has more textual integrity than any other ancient writing by orders of magnitude, they were compiled by eyewitness testimonies and are supported by extrabiblical sources to much of the key elements, and there was no reason for anyone to falsify their accounts seeing as Christians were persecuted and killed for hundreds of years afterward. There's ostensibly no other religion with as much credibility in terms of historicity and consistency, and no other that has withstood such enduring scrutiny.
7266
« on: January 18, 2015, 05:52:03 PM »
Meanwhile, you've got literally the same scenario, except the cop killed the guy and is getting shit on left and right: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt_cET2hOgc&feature=youtu.beThe guy in the OP was the son of a family friend. It hit the family very hard.
7267
« on: January 18, 2015, 05:19:28 PM »
Not really, they had very little to gain. The apostles all died from torture, execution, or exile. No reason to lie about seeing him after his death, especially the ones that weren't even Jews.
7268
« on: January 18, 2015, 12:46:51 AM »
Kinda on topic here, can I have a list of times Lucifer/Satan is mentioned in the Bible? http://www.openbible.info/topics/lucifer My questions are as follows:
-How could Lucifer rebel against God, did angels have free will, wasn't that special for Humans? Yes, they do have free will and can sin. At least, some of them can. Others are what's known as 'elect' and cannot sin. -Is there anything that makes it impossible for Lucifer to actually still be an angel of God, with the purpose of tempting Humans away from God with the purpose of allowing them to become stronger from the trials, similar to the story of Job? Job's an interesting case, because by some exegesis (analyzing text), the 'satan' screwing with Job wasn't Lucifer, it was just an angel (though I honestly think the conversation they had was largely allegorical). But yeah, Lucifer was still an angel, probably capable of going back to heaven until judgement day. -Are angels explicitly explained anywhere, or are they like the Nephilim and we don't have any real good explanation? There is very little canon scripture dealing with it, and quite a bit of apocryphal information on them. Note: Revelations is silly to me, so if you could come up with something else that would be much better.
Revelation is awesome. One of my favorite books of the Bible. Imagine taking some uneducated guy from 40 AD and showing him the future, with all the technology and scenery that he couldn't even comprehend, followed by something even more difficult to imagine: the literal apocalypse. All the weird shit you read about is John struggling to make sense of it all.
7269
« on: January 18, 2015, 12:36:08 AM »
7270
« on: January 18, 2015, 12:33:57 AM »
Edit: tfw turkey liked this post and I can't tell if he's agreeing that I'm retarded or if he just feels the same way
7271
« on: January 18, 2015, 12:31:51 AM »
Well the mother is the medical proxy for the fetus, and when the mother doesn't have the legal right of attorney over herself, she can't act as a medical proxy for the fetus. It makes sense in a roundabout sort of way.
7272
« on: January 18, 2015, 12:29:38 AM »
Good idea. Spending less time on the forums/social media/online games greatly improved my life.
Will you post occasionally, or are you cutting ties?
7273
« on: January 17, 2015, 11:29:39 PM »
 Challenger confirmed Tyler Durden.
7274
« on: January 17, 2015, 11:25:12 PM »
The housing bubble was really only relevant if you were in the market at the time. My parents have a million-dollar house [which isn't much in Orange County] that dipped to probably $750k during the housing crash, but since they weren't selling, its value has mostly come back now.
Loss in equity was still a huge hit for homeowners, regardless of whether they were in the market.
7275
« on: January 17, 2015, 11:19:10 PM »
Why do you refuse to give me access to custom title bars despite the fact that I am HurtfulTurkey?
*cough*
You're not active enough and I don't like your avatar.
Brevity is the soul of wit, and I've been using this avatar since '05.
7276
« on: January 17, 2015, 10:07:50 PM »
What's the benefit of having the screen extend around the edge?
7277
« on: January 17, 2015, 09:58:52 PM »
Why do you refuse to give me access to custom title bars despite the fact that I am HurtfulTurkey?
*cough*
7278
« on: January 17, 2015, 09:05:55 PM »
Possible. I think war between super powers is largely over, but China is still antagonistic. Our naval presence in Japan is basically trained and designed to take on China if they ever start getting feisty.
7279
« on: January 17, 2015, 12:18:40 PM »
Why do you refuse to give me access to custom title bars despite the fact that I am HurtfulTurkey?
7280
« on: January 17, 2015, 12:16:26 PM »
I don't think light spanking is abuse, but corporal punishment is proven to be ineffective and harmful to a child's psyche.
7281
« on: January 17, 2015, 11:55:39 AM »
Over the years I've swapped out parts in my computer to stay current, but I've never changed my monitors. They both run in 1080p, and I frankly don't know anything more than that.
So how often are you supposed to buy new monitors, and does anyone have recommendations for mid-20" monitors on the market?
7282
« on: January 17, 2015, 10:55:31 AM »
I'm a little confused as to where you're getting this idea that firing with two hands counts as redesigning. They said the stabilizing brace does, but nowhere do they say a second hand does so.
7283
« on: January 16, 2015, 07:38:10 PM »
I feel kinda dumb for asking this... but I'm actually clueless.
The inflation on these interest rates, how can that relate to the inflation of produce or is it entirely unrelated?
Asking about inflation rate of interest is like asking about how fast a car's acceleration changes -- that is, the rate of change of a rate of change.
7284
« on: January 16, 2015, 06:48:05 PM »
What happens if you call the number?
7285
« on: January 16, 2015, 02:50:34 PM »
I think we're looking at this from a moral perspective, as opposed to the legal one you're championing.
Yeah, I would probably punch somebody if they called my girlfriend ugly. However, that is qualitatively different (morally) from harming somebody based on religious propositions. Should either be legal? Of course not.
See, if we're just talking about Charlie Hebdo, then OP should be up-front about it. OP was talking about the scenario of "talk shit, get hit". I don't think any reasonable human being thinks the response to the offense taken from the comics was proportional, justified, or legal, so there's really no reason to talk about it here.
7286
« on: January 16, 2015, 02:41:18 PM »
It has absolutely nothing to do with immunity from the consequences of other peoples' offense.
On the contrary, it has everything to do with not getting fucking murdered for anything you say.
It doesn't; that's covered under laws against murder. This thread is a veiled strawman attacking the claim that not all speech can reasonably be expected to be respectfully tolerated. Charlie Hebdo is the easy case. Of course it's wrong to kill someone for a satirical comic, no matter how irreverent it may be. It's not such an easy argument when you realistically look at your own response to increasing degrees of offense.
7287
« on: January 16, 2015, 09:17:20 AM »
Baccano
Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
Terra Formars
East of Eden
7288
« on: January 16, 2015, 09:13:46 AM »
You're hanging out at the mall with your mom/sister/girlfriend, and I walk up to her and call her a dick-gargling whore. Do you respond by kindly thanking me for using my right to express myself?
There's a difference between a flippant comment and a controversial ideology. I wouldn't respond to either with violence anyway.
Nice strawman.
It's not at all a strawman, It's Socratic reasoning. The point stands that if you claim violence is never an appropriate response to an act of speech, then you need to be able to defend it. Freedom of speech is the right to express yourself without fear of government reproach. It has absolutely nothing to do with immunity from the consequences of other peoples' offense.
7289
« on: January 15, 2015, 11:34:36 PM »
So sayeth Al Jazeera. http://m.nationalreview.com/corner/396131/i-am-not-charlie-leaked-newsroom-e-mails-reveal-al-jazeera-fury-over-global-support“Defending freedom of expression in the face of oppression is one thing; insisting on the right to be obnoxious and offensive just because you can is infantile,” Khadr wrote. “Baiting extremists isn’t bravely defiant when your manner of doing so is more significant in offending millions of moderate people as well. And within a climate where violent response — however illegitimate — is a real risk, taking a goading stand on a principle virtually no one contests is worse than pointless: it’s pointlessly all about you.” You don’t actually stick it to the terrorists by insulting the majority of Muslims by reproducing more cartoons – you actually entrench the very animosity and divisions these guys seek to sow. Let the rustling commence.
7290
« on: January 15, 2015, 11:29:40 PM »
You're hanging out at the mall with your mom/sister/girlfriend, and I walk up to her and call her a dick-gargling whore. Do you respond by kindly thanking me for using my right to express myself?
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