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« on: January 21, 2015, 09:46:20 PM »
t4r Had a discussion with the wife, a nursing student, about a baby with severe defects likely caused by the parents' being blood relatives. I say likely because it's considered unprofessional to legitimately attribute incest to birth defects, apparently. But the discussion moved to whether it's abusive to drink alcohol/do drugs/any other harmful activity while pregnant, or does the mother have a right to do whatever she wants? Spoiler I don't mean legally, I mean ethically.
7232
« on: January 21, 2015, 05:49:49 PM »
I've got about $7k in liquid assets.
7233
« on: January 21, 2015, 05:40:10 PM »
I may just have a stick up my ass but I'm really sick of the flagrant use of shit like 'nigger' and 'faggot'.
Is that covered under Tricare?
7234
« on: January 21, 2015, 05:30:39 PM »
I may just have a stick up my ass but I'm really sick of the flagrant use of shit like 'nigger' and 'faggot'.
7235
« on: January 21, 2015, 05:26:58 PM »
I listened from 0:55-1:10 and didn't hear a single Halo quote.
7236
« on: January 21, 2015, 04:56:46 PM »
Negroes
bruh
Fuck you.
If you think it's racist then so is "Caucasian" and "Oriental".
It's not racist (as I know it's not your intent) as much as it is a faux pas. Same with 'oriental'.
7237
« on: January 21, 2015, 12:32:52 PM »
7238
« on: January 21, 2015, 12:25:58 PM »
I'm too busy checking out the girl's legs next to him.
Oh no! The patriarchy!
It got me!
That woman's Starbucks bag is clearly infringing on the seat next to her. Why don't any bloggers go around publicly shaming them?
7239
« on: January 21, 2015, 12:21:50 PM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/21/nyregion/MTA-targets-manspreading-on-new-york-city-subways.html?_r=0 It is the bane of many female subway riders. It is a scourge tracked on blogs and on Twitter.
And it has a name almost as distasteful as the practice itself.
It is manspreading, the lay-it-all-out sitting style that more than a few men see as their inalienable underground right. I thought this was a joke when I first heard about it. As I'm sure you've heard, manspreading is a tumblr/SJW idiom to describe men spreading their legs on public transit to oppress women and spread patriarchy. So here's a totally serious video from the New York Times in which a reporter interviews a famous puppet about how to respond to manspreading (such responses include punching them in the face). The video is coupled with damning evidence in the form of pictures of men on public transit with their legs spread open a bit. The reality, of course, is that pretty much everyone on public transit does this and it's very unusual for someone to continue taking up space if someone asks to sit there. It's synonymous with women or students storing bags on the seat next to them when space is available. I dunno, something about this just kind of pisses me off. 'Manspreading' is such an inexplicably annoying word, and it pains me to see real news videos about this.
7240
« on: January 20, 2015, 01:41:19 AM »
7241
« on: January 19, 2015, 05:01:23 PM »
China's technocracy is actually pretty similar to what you've got here:
If you work in the government you have a single task (as opposed to a politician who must be educated on all fronts) and you are, of course, hired not elected. China has a legislative body--all of whom are elected in. What exactly am I not understanding?
They're elected by standing officials, not the people. In your system, how are people assigned to jobs? How do they advance?
7242
« on: January 19, 2015, 04:30:42 PM »
Realtalk here, apart from the troll personas, does anyone on this site actually think the gold standard is a good alternative? Why is this even being debated?
7243
« on: January 19, 2015, 04:27:56 PM »
Can I get some fucking links on this claim that he and others baited civilians or killed males indiscriminately? Yeah Kyle was a racist redneck that admitted to enjoying killing people, but these claims have been thrown around time and time again with no evidence provided.
7244
« on: January 19, 2015, 04:24:02 PM »
That's awesome, assuming you were planning for kids. We're not having kids until student loans are paid off and we've put a good dent in our Roth IRAs.
Yeah we wanted kids  I hope its all good here.
Well I hope you don't mind some preemptive congratulations then, you're gonna be a fun dad.
7245
« on: January 19, 2015, 03:46:07 PM »
That's awesome, assuming you were planning for kids. We're not having kids until student loans are paid off and we've put a good dent in our Roth IRAs.
7246
« on: January 19, 2015, 03:39:01 PM »
"Combat operations represent the greatest failings of our foreign policy."
7247
« on: January 19, 2015, 12:03:20 PM »
They are mostly churchgoers who don't practice what they preach, unfortunately.
So that number is off by a VERY larger margin. I'd say 45% is more accurate.
I wouldn't even say that churchgoers are in the majority. There are tons of people who identify as Christian but reserve themselves to a 'personal faith' which neglects going to church or participating in the community.
7248
« on: January 19, 2015, 12:01:17 PM »
Technocracy is not a guarantor of low corruption, if China is any example. I'd like to see politicians relegated to true public servants, who sacrifice wealth and benefits out of passion for politics, not eliminated entirely.
How exactly is China an example of a technocracy? They have politicians do they not?
China is a single-party technocracy with absolutely rampant corruption.
China has politicians. My argument is that the elimination of politicians would decrease corruption. China really isn't a technocracy, at least not in the way I'm defining it.
China's technocracy is actually pretty similar to what you've got here: If you work in the government you have a single task (as opposed to a politician who must be educated on all fronts) and you are, of course, hired not elected.
7249
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:27:36 AM »
You dun goof'd m9.
Yes, that was poorly worded, but the topic was the necessity of all games as art, and furthermore whether that's a legitimate argument against the criticism of violence depicted as per the introduction to the video, not that video games can't be art,
7250
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:21:57 AM »
Wow, there's plenty of room for debate about the real-life character of Chris Kyle, but this is just petty.
I wonder what his reaction was to a Lone Survivor, which is all about a recon team getting wiped out by a handful of insurgents, specifically pointing out the dangers of the job.
7251
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:13:02 AM »
That's nice. What are you actually saying anyway? All I got from your post is that you think that art is solely confined to paintings, theater and movies, or anything that falls under the guise of classical. I didn't even mention paintings or classicism, which is just a genre of art anyway. Art covers an immensely broad range of human based creative activities, which yes, does include videogames. As I said. Seriously, I always laugh my ass off when the "videogames aren't art" argument is brought up. It's essentially just a subjective semantics based argument with no substantiated backing to support it. "Everything that has been input into a videogame is art, but the actual game itself is not because it's not eloquent enough lol" For what must be the fifth time in this thread, my post specifically included games as art. Every field of human activity has art in it (some more than others), but not every work of creation is necessarily art, and not all things with artistic elements are, themselves, art. As Tolstoy said, art "is a means of union among men, joining them together in the same feelings, and indispensable for the life and progress toward well-being of individuals and of humanity." There's a specific intent to explore the world and how we experience it. I was hoping it would be possible to have a meaningful discussion, but the responses are largely juvenile shit slinging, so there's really no point.
7252
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:58:33 AM »
Technocracy is not a guarantor of low corruption, if China is any example. I'd like to see politicians relegated to true public servants, who sacrifice wealth and benefits out of passion for politics, not eliminated entirely.
How exactly is China an example of a technocracy? They have politicians do they not?
China is a single-party technocracy with absolutely rampant corruption.
7253
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:38:33 AM »
Technocracy is not a guarantor of low corruption, if China is any example. I'd like to see politicians relegated to true public servants, who sacrifice wealth and benefits out of passion for politics, not eliminated entirely.
7254
« on: January 18, 2015, 09:27:39 PM »
I just don't understand what laws you're referring to. There's no universal law that says organisms cannot be brought back to life; a sufficient knowledge of how the body functions and repairs is the only thing that stands in front of our capability to do the very same.
7255
« on: January 18, 2015, 09:02:07 PM »
7256
« on: January 18, 2015, 08:59:58 PM »
Well, it might not specifically be a law, but Humans die. The body does not last forever and it can only endure so much, and after that it is used up. I'm just asking, in what logical way could a Human body have survived what Jesus went through, and how could it have come back to life? We know how to resuscitate the body now, but that's only to a certain extent; and I think what Christ went through is beyond what we could fix today. Back then, they didn't even have what we have now, so in what way following the laws of physics could Jesus Christ have come back after death?
No clue, I know very little about biology. I'm not sure why you're even looking for an explanation in the realm of our current capabilities, because we've established that we're talking about an omnipotent being that set the known universe in motion.
7257
« on: January 18, 2015, 08:38:24 PM »
Comparing the plate to the game as a whole is a really bad metaphor that doesn't make sense. The plate is not part of the sculpture while the music, story, artstyle, etc all make the game. Essentially those elements are the clay in this bad comparison. And the developers are the shitty 12 yo slapping them together. Whether they make a plate, a beautiful sculpture, or a dildo its still art. You don't have to like it for it to be art.
Fair point, though I'm not convinced that just because something has artistic elements that the whole is necessarily a form of art.
7258
« on: January 18, 2015, 08:15:06 PM »
Art isn't defined by such a narrow definition.
I'm not sure what you're referring to. My post was specifically ambiguous about the definition of art.
Reads like you're attempting to narrow the definition to not include video games for some reason.
Because 'shooting up a town is tasteless'?
No, in fact my post includes the majority of games in the realm of art. I'm talking about the idea that not all games are art, particularly those that don't strive to explain, explore, criticize, or otherwise discuss the human experience. A child's clay statue is certainly an artistic expression, but is a clay plate? Namely, I'm criticizing the video's excuse of game violence because it's art, as if that somehow dissolves the importance of its meaning. In fact, if all video games are to be art, then they ought to be held to higher scrutiny than mere base forms of entertainment, and so the criticisms are even more valid. "hurr if it's not classical or doesn't represent some moral abstract concept, it isn't art"
lol
Either you're illiterate or being purposefully ignorant of what I'm actually saying, but if you're going to act like a toddler feel free to do so elsewhere.
7259
« on: January 18, 2015, 08:09:34 PM »
Art isn't defined by such a narrow definition.
I'm not sure what you're referring to. My post was specifically ambiguous about the definition of art.
7260
« on: January 18, 2015, 08:02:42 PM »
Admittedly I stopped to reply a couple minutes into the video, but do any of you seriously see video games necessarily as art? I mean, the designs are art. The music is art. The story is probably artful, and clearly the creative process of making a game is an act of artistry, but the typical video game itself is hardly art. A museum isn't art just because it exists to showcase artistic projects. This always seems like such a weak argument to offense taken at the violence seen in some games, as if shooting up a city is somehow less tasteless because it's animated.
And this isn't a slam against those games -- Saints Row IV, a game largely focused around beating aliens to death with dildo-themed weaponry in bondage outfits -- is one of the most enjoyable games I've played, but it's hardly in the same category of media as The Starry Night.
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