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44641
« on: January 06, 2015, 05:05:58 PM »
But two out of three of those aren't canon anymore so there's no point in referencing them as evidence to a claim. no, there is not haha, neener neener
44642
« on: January 06, 2015, 05:01:07 PM »
What if there was such a situation that, given terrible suffering for everyone, would lead to an eventual pay-off? Is it morally sound because it eventually ends with something good for humanity if it entails large amounts of suffering?
What if the difference in morality lies in the method, not the outcome? Is it morally correct to divert a train into a man working on the tracks if it means saving the lives of a couple of hikers, or is it more correct to not interfere? Or is it better to let someone live in a vegetative state, who feels no sensation be it pain or pleasure, or to pull the plug?
In order to "pay off" any suffering incurred, the "good" that would come as a result would have to outweigh that suffering. Otherwise, you have yourself a zero-sum game. What you just described is more or less an argument for an objective "morality" (using that word makes me want to puke), more or less, which I know you don't believe in, so I'm kind of confused as to where you're going with that. Edit: So, okay, so you DO believe in an objective morality... on a large scale. Well, I would just argue that there really is no other scale. It's a large scale--but it's also the only scale.
44643
« on: January 06, 2015, 04:55:16 PM »
I'm kinda with you, to be honest. Though, "morality" is kind of a stupid word.
44644
« on: January 06, 2015, 04:48:18 PM »
the original star wars trilogy's ending was ruined for me as soon as episode seven was announced
like, oh
there's still sith
so that happy ending was worthless
44645
« on: January 06, 2015, 04:44:38 PM »
It seems less like the creators left the ending open and more like they decided 'fuck it, let's just end it here.' i just didn't get that impression i'd have to rewatch the series to really demonstrate why, too, though but i don't got time for that
44646
« on: January 06, 2015, 04:31:48 PM »
nope
44647
« on: January 06, 2015, 03:57:40 PM »
well i'm just saying, even by it's own terms, i don't even see how it's a bad ending
the reason why the majority dislikes it is because it doesn't answer questions like the operator's origins
which you said you don't care about
what you wanted for them was to expand upon the mythos more
which, of course, not everybody cares about--it wasn't the mythos that made it compelling for me
it was the realism
and the ending is the most real ending they possibly could've done, in my perspective
44648
« on: January 06, 2015, 03:43:07 PM »
i find the reasoning of "it wasn't how i wanted/how i'd like it to be" rather childish, personally
it's not your story, is it
and that certainly doesn't make it bad
44649
« on: January 06, 2015, 03:30:36 PM »
Did anyone here watch Marble Hornets?
That's an example of mystery-horror done right, only to end in the shittiest, most unsatisfying way possible. It was absolutely awesome up until that fucking final entry.
but i loved it lol
44650
« on: January 06, 2015, 03:23:00 PM »
Did anyone here watch Marble Hornets? Slender man, right? I watched a couple, didn't get why it was so scary.
I watched it because I found it be an interesting series, not because it was scary. It ended a few months ago and everyone hated the ending but me. It was a Lost-esque ending where basically nothing was explained--but that's what I loved about it. It wouldn't make sense if everything was explained.
44651
« on: January 06, 2015, 03:19:41 PM »
Did anyone here watch Marble Hornets?
44652
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:53:47 PM »
Everyone would talk about how apparently awesome that guy was back in Coup, but I never got to know him/her.
44653
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:49:45 PM »
Get out newfag. 3D is best
44654
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:47:35 PM »
do anime fans wonder why people hate them
or do they have an understanding of how annoying and insufferable they can be like this is an honest question because from what i can tell, a lot of weeaboos will wonder why people hate anime without giving it a chance--but they also happen to be the least welcoming fanbase ever except bronies
44655
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:34:28 PM »
do anime fans wonder why people hate them
or do they have an understanding of how annoying and insufferable they can be
44656
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:33:44 PM »
couldn't get into the first one
44657
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:28:07 PM »
not particularly profound though
Doesn't need to be.
i think it does there's no use in saying something everyone already knows/agrees on
44658
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:20:08 PM »
not particularly profound though
44659
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:13:29 PM »
i find genres useless anyway
music is fucking music
even when i say i hate country, that's a lie, because a lot of johnny cash's stuff is pretty tight
the mentality of using genres to "help find music you like" promotes closed-mindedness
44660
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:11:13 PM »
OK welp, looks like we have a winner tool: metal the end
44661
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:10:15 PM »
and what's funny is that all of the bands that jim considers metal (black sabbath, and i believe he mentioned iron maiden and judas priest), i consider them metal too--not to mention the "big four"
it's just when i listen to tool
i hear very similar sounds and very similar techniques used between them and the seven other bands mentioned
so i say... yeah, tool is metal
if you want to get specific, call it progressive metal, because as far as i know, the "progressive" label just means an attempt to bring artistic merit to whatever genre you're attaching it
it's not rock, because rock is too soft
tool is not soft
it's not fucking anal cunt
but it's not fucking buddy holly or chuck berry either
44662
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:02:52 PM »
you didn't even do that though lol
all you can say is that it isn't metal
and then link a bunch of bands that ARE metal (which sound exactly like tool by the way) and try to use that as an argument
and then say that a song like vicarious is in the same genre as a song like comfortably numb (progressive rock)
which is THE dumbest thing, ever
OK
your problem is that you're not articulate enough (or at all, to be frank) you obviously don't know any technical terms that would help you describe the sounds that you hear when listening to whatever the fuck you consider metal, and what you hear when you listen to tool if you did, it would be a cinch to draw the line between them, but because you don't, you can't articulate anything--all you can say is "my opinion is right because i studied music history for years" which helps no one
44663
« on: January 06, 2015, 01:51:34 PM »
you didn't even do that though lol
all you can say is that it isn't metal
and then link a bunch of bands that ARE metal (which sound exactly like tool by the way) and try to use that as an argument
and then say that a song like vicarious is in the same genre as a song like comfortably numb (progressive rock)
which is THE dumbest thing, ever
44664
« on: January 06, 2015, 01:47:20 PM »
because i think it's sad how a music expert such as yourself cannot even explain how tool is apparently not metal
44665
« on: January 06, 2015, 01:43:44 PM »
it is
plainly and obviously
44666
« on: January 06, 2015, 01:43:24 PM »
not only is tool a metal band
it is also the ONLY metal band
ever
how about that
44667
« on: January 06, 2015, 01:41:59 PM »
The fact that you keep referring to Tool because of that one thread is retarded, and just makes you look butthurt because you got owned in it. God, you're retarded. here was that thread "tool is not metal because tool is not metal" wow ownage
44669
« on: January 06, 2015, 01:27:26 PM »
He has the worst Metal reviews I've ever seen. what are you talking about he hasn't reviewed any tool albums
44670
« on: January 06, 2015, 01:23:59 PM »
>>opinions
No guys, Jim is actually 80% right here. yeah but it's jim so i'm obligated to contradict him
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