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Mercy doesn't apply to sexual deliquency!
obvy

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The Flood / Re: BOW DOWN! TO LUCKIFER!!!!
« on: January 07, 2015, 08:20:05 AM »
why does everyone feel the need to tell me whenever they happen to agree with me on something

like it's a landmark event

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The Flood / Re: Confession thread?
« on: January 07, 2015, 07:44:52 AM »
oh, well all right then, i take that back

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I'm great at writing, but I have absolutely no interest in giving you any help at... anything.
do you think we'd experiment sexually if we met in real life?
I'd castrate you. Does that count?

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I'm great at writing, but I have absolutely no interest in giving you any help at... anything.

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The Flood / Re: what are some movies you never get tired of?
« on: January 07, 2015, 07:06:08 AM »
goonies

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The Flood / Re: BOW DOWN! TO LUCKIFER!!!!
« on: January 07, 2015, 07:01:47 AM »
Typing is easy, dark or not. If you're looking at your hands when you type, at all, you need to learn how to type.

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The Flood / Re: what are some of your favorite song lyrics?
« on: January 07, 2015, 05:17:20 AM »
We seed. We feel. We need. We fight.
We seal. We cut. We seek. We love.

We grow. We take. We eat. We break.
We hunt. We hurt. We seize. We kneel.

We heal. We fuck. We pray. We hate.
We reach. We touch. We lose. We taste.

We learn. We lie. We wound. We waste.
We hold. We kill. We love. We veil.

We crawl. We seek. We fail. We rage.
We fuck. We come. We love. We work.

We search. We share. We wound. We keep.
We blind. We take. We hide. We hold.

We breathe. We steal. We bind. We build.
We seed. We fuck. We rage. We weep.

We betray. We serve. We regret. We learn.
With tooth and claw, we touch. We teach.

We fuck. We love. We forget. We regret.
We love. We love. We love. We love.

We fuck. We love. We love. We fuck.
We love. We love. We love. We love.

We love. We love. We love. We love.
We love. We love.

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The Flood / Re: what are some of your favorite song lyrics?
« on: January 07, 2015, 05:02:34 AM »
"He come to me with money in his hand. He offered me. I didn't ask him. I wasn't knocking someone's door down. I was running from that. When I got out, I was in that. I was already through that. I had that. I had the studio. I went to the studio--went to Fox Studios. I had it all, and I looked at it, and I said, 'This is a bigger jail than I just got out of.' I don't wanna take my time going to work. I got a motorcycle and a sleeping bag, and ten or fifteen girls. What the hell I wanna go off into and s--and go to work for? Work for what? Money? I got all the money in the world. I'm the king, man! I run the underworld, guy! I decide who does what, and where they do it at! What am I gonna run around and act like I'm some teenybopper somewhere for somebody else's money? I make the money, man. I roll the nickels. The game is mine. I deal the cards."

Beware.

I close my eyes and seize it.
I clench my fists and beat it.
I light my torch and burn it.
I am the beast I worship.

I close my eyes and seize it.
I clench my fists and beat it.
I light my torch and burn it.
I am the beast I worship.

And I know soon come my time,
for in mine void, a pale horse burns,
but I fear not the time I've taken
past the point of no return.
Wage war like no tomorrow,
'cause no hell, there won't be one.
For all who the deny the struggle,
the triumphant overcome.



Shit but shanked by my disrespect.
Dismiss this life. Worship death.
Cold blood night of serpent's breath
exhaled like spells from the endlessness
in the bottomless well of emptiness,
channeled to invoke what we represent.



In the time before time eyes 'bove which horns
curve like psychotropic scythes,
and smell of torn flesh bled dry
by hell swarms of pestis flies,
vomiting forth flames lit by
an older than ancient force
that slays this life with no remorse.



Worship is not on bended knee.
Nature knows not of mercy.
To pray is to accept defeat.



Harsh winds flay my flesh to bone.
In splintered skeleton, I roam
wastelands with not to call my own,
but the path. I walk alone.
The hunger burns within my gut
as my bones turn into dust.

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The Flood / Re: what are some of your favorite song lyrics?
« on: January 07, 2015, 04:24:55 AM »
Staring at the sea.
Will she come?
Is there hope for me
after all is said and done?

Anything at any price...
all of this for you.
All the spoils of a wasted life...
all of this for you.

All the world has closed her eyes,
tired faith all worn and thin,
for all we could have done,
and all that could have been.

Ocean pulls me close,
and whispers in my ear...
The destiny I've chose,
all becoming clear.

The currents have their say.
The time is drawing near.
Washes me away,
makes me disappear.

And I descend from grace,
in arms of undertow.
I will take my place
in the great below.

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The Flood / Re: Is it gay to pleasure yourself to a picture of yourself?
« on: January 07, 2015, 04:18:42 AM »
yes

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The Flood / Re: bad forum habits
« on: January 06, 2015, 07:53:48 PM »
I'll constantly look over a post multiple times before actually posting it. Each time my cursor hovers over the post button, I'll think about any possible typos or inaccuracies and have to go through it all one more time before I can finally post it.
wanna trade

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The Flood / Re: bad forum habits
« on: January 06, 2015, 07:49:49 PM »
When I'm talking to someone intellectually superior like Meta I feel bad when I can't finish the conversation because it's all way over my head.
he's well-read and well-spoken, but i wouldn't put him on a pedestal just for that

it's just a matter of doing some reading of your own
he does his homework--and he still misses the mark sometimes

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The Flood / Re: bad forum habits
« on: January 06, 2015, 07:28:43 PM »
I hate it when people post a reply before you finish an edit, and it's an embarrassing typo or something like that.
that's the worst

part of why i sometimes type shitty like i'm doing now

is so that it won't matter

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The Flood / Re: bad forum habits
« on: January 06, 2015, 07:26:09 PM »
also

i call people cunts often

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The Flood / bad forum habits
« on: January 06, 2015, 07:24:29 PM »
i have this thing where whenever i post something

i can't stop editing it

even if i put a lot of thought into the post, i always feel like it isn't perfectly worded or phrased, so i constantly edit it to make it better, never to be satisfied

i only stop when i get a reply

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The Flood / Re: Endings of things that you actually enjoyed.
« on: January 06, 2015, 07:19:30 PM »
maybe my opinions on star wars are just fucked because i watched the prequels before i saw the original trilogy
and i liked them

that's always a possibility that i consider

maybe if i saw the original trilogy first, i'd be as big a star wars fan as you are

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The Flood / Re: Endings of things that you actually enjoyed.
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:54:18 PM »
The relationship between Luke and Leia, the thread we had a while back about the celebrations following the Death Star's destruction, the sheer incompetence in the design of the Empire's technology if ropes and spears can destroy their tanks, and so on. It's not a BAD movie, not by a long shot, but it was a bit underwhelming.
i liked return of the jedi more for its emotional impact and symbolism--namely when luke meets the emperor before he fights his dad. that scene is so cool, the image of it is like, permanently engraved in my mind. it's just one of those super memorable scenes. i mean, i didn't care much for the characters, but i knew i was supposed to, and i'm good at displacing... care, i guess, when i have to. it was just overall a lot more exciting than... anything that happened in the last two movies.

all the stuff you mentioned seems nitpicky, except the spears vs. tanks thing, i guess

but yeah, fuck empire.
a new hope just wasn't at all memorable to me.

the first two of the original trilogy, i have trouble not falling asleep in the middle of

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The Flood / Re: Would You Support Unsticking the "Music Thread"?
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:49:26 PM »
get it outta here

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The Flood / Re: Endings of things that you actually enjoyed.
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:42:23 PM »
Empire Strikes Back is overrated and Return of the Jedi was disappointing, yes, but A New Hope will always hold a place in my heart for being one of a few well done sci-fi/fantasy films.
return of the jedi was actually the best imo
no real problems with it

how was it disappointing? i know it's often cited to be the worst of the original trilogy, but like... why

is it the ewoks
are people really that petty

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The Flood / Re: Endings of things that you actually enjoyed.
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:39:07 PM »
343i's Halo is an example of how not to do an EU; if you want to follow the story, it is required for you to read the books to know a number of characters or why certain events are happening. You can't just play the game and be done to understand everything that's happening, there's just a lot of information that can only be found in the books.
yeah, that's irritating, but more forgivable in my perspective just because it's so much smaller

and thus, more accessible
and not a cluster
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I never remember anything that just didn't make sense (in the original trilogy, anyway); everything was either explained to the point that it was understood on a basic level or could be solved through some process of thought
well, you have to understand that i resent the original trilogy

so whenever i watch it, i do it with an extremely critical eye
and i notice a lot of stupid shit (most of which, again, i chalk up to--"meh. kid's movie")

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The Flood / Re: Endings of things that you actually enjoyed.
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:29:31 PM »
For the sake of brevity, a sci-fi/fantasy movie series like Star Wars cannot include every little piece of information like an encyclopedia. That's one of the good things about having a solid core with extended material: you can simply stop with the movies, or if something about them interest you, it's easy enough to find more about or like it in the hundreds of books and games available.
That's not exactly what I meant. I'm not trying to say that the entire Star Wars universe should've been jampacked into only the six core films... Merely, the question that a lot of prequel haters tend to ask. "Was this a story that needed to be told?"

and that's up to you, but for me, the answer is a giant "no"

the EU, for me, just created headaches and eye-rolls whenever someone says, "oh, that's explored more in the EU" whenever i point out something stupid in the original trilogy (like the light/dark dichotomy)

Some things are better off left in the dark. Instead, we know literally more than we ever needed to know about every single person who ever spent one second of screen time in the films. But the stuff that actually matters? The stuff that doesn't make sense? It's not explained in the movies. That's the important stuff that SHOULD be in the movies, but... isn't.

so, idk
it's always going to be a clusterfuck franchise to me

not a bad franchise, but
not a good one either
certainly not something i'd personally spend much time on

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The Flood / Re: Endings of things that you actually enjoyed.
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:15:45 PM »
i also assumed that by "villain" you were referring to that kylo ren guy, with the stupid crossguard saber in the trailer

that's who you were talking about, right

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The Flood / Re: Endings of things that you actually enjoyed.
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:12:17 PM »
It's more of an incredibly slight undertone of the movies that's expanded upon more in Legends material, but the Jedi Order is incredibly strict in their code. If a Jedi isn't held to an inhuman (figuratively, given that many Jedi aren't human) level of knowledge, understanding, and a blind, unwavering support of the Council then they are banned from the order or are stuck under a glass ceiling. Another fault is that the Jedi Order is generally indecisive lend themselves to intentional ignorance of things to remain pure of mind. They are essentially zealots with telekinesis and laser swords.

On the other end of the spectrum, the Sith are ruthless, untrustworthy, and eternally power-hungry. It was shown quite clearly in the movies that they are the "bad" guys and that they are simply the opposite of everything righteous.

That's why the Gray Jedi is the best position to take; it admits that you can't simply hide from reality and thus you must understand it while at the same time shunning the use of the Force as a tool for evil. But as in real life, very few reach a truly balanced position intentionally or not. That's why the Force can only exist balanced in two circumstances:

1) All true Jedi and Sith (individuals who subscribe totally, or nearly so, to the doctrines) are eradicated. This only works for a short term, as the knowledge cannot be completely destroyed and the ideals will always be rediscovered by force-sensitives.

2) Jedi and Sith exist on equal standing in terms of power and control.
i mean, it's great that you know all this, it's nice that the EU has made efforts to make the universe more graspable for people like me who find the silly light/dark dichotomy to be trite and uncreative, and i find your dedication to the franchise admirable, but

that's just another problem i see with it
the fact that so much of the films' logic was sort of dependent on outside sources within the EU to make sense?...well, not dependent, but... supplemented by and made more sense from

fight club
requiem for a dream
chronicle
gone girl

some of my favorite film stories of all time
they... don't need an EU to help make sense of all its stuff

i realize that's not what the EU is originally intended for--it's originally intended to make money, because star wars is the biggest cash cow franchise of all time--but i'm just saying, because of it, whenever i think about star wars, i get an intense wave of i-don't-give-a-shit syndrome due to just the staggering amount of shit that i have to endure just to justify every idiosyncrasy in the films that wouldn't really add up if you didn't play a video game or read a book

if there weren't people like you to condense all of this stuff for me, i would never, ever know

I'm not sure if we actually know the allegiance of Episode 7's villain, but I'm holding out hope that it doesn't retcon ROTJ's conclusion. >.>
the narrator clearly said "THE DARK SIDE" as soon as he appeared

i mean, i think that's pretty definitive, but maybe he'll pull a heel-face turn or something

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Serious / Re: Try to convince me that morality isn't objective
« on: January 06, 2015, 05:53:59 PM »
Meta hit it on the nail, actually. It's not that it's "wrong" on a quantum level, it's that the answer becomes more of a gray area the more specific the subject becomes. For the genocide argument-- the fact is that you can demonstrate and support for or against it well all based on your view of it. And because there are such a number of different views that express support or opposition, it would be either incredibly difficult (or impossible) to reach a specific answer to it. It's possible to find a general application to the umbrella it falls under (genocide), but specific scenarios don't have a specific moral response.
That's reasonable. I guess for me, here's an analogy... morality is as subjective to me as the existence of god. Most people aren't gonna say that the question of "is there a god" is a matter of opinion--there either factually is or there factually isn't, but we can't ever really know that, so it's an unfalsifiable hypothesis--the same term could be used to describe any moral conundrums and dilemmas we could come up with. To your initial example, you say that the worker is more valuable than the few hikers--I might ask you, well, how good of a worker was he? Did he do his job well? Was he like, fifty-nine years old and about to retire? All these variables are too plentiful to account for, giving the illusion of subjectivity, but if we knew everything, we could make an objective choice. I won't say it's subjective just because we can't ever know all the variables, but I will say that, yeah, no perfect conjecture can be made in hyperspecific circumstances like that...

Edit:
*few HIKERS, not workers. derp

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Serious / Re: Try to convince me that morality isn't objective
« on: January 06, 2015, 05:41:14 PM »
In America, cannibalism is morally wrong

In parts of India and various indigenous tribes around the world, cannibalism is seen as acceptable
I wouldn't really call that an example of subjectivity. Let alone a moral issue.

It's a cultural difference of values. Most people would agree, I'd wager, that if someone consented to be eaten, it's okay to eat that person. I don't think you're going to find too many people who disagree with that, even in America. If you're suggesting that nonconsensual cannibalism is rife within Indian communities... This is news to me.

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Serious / Re: Try to convince me that morality isn't objective
« on: January 06, 2015, 05:30:41 PM »
"Genocide of the chronically handicapped is morally right" is much more subjective because it boils down to your individual approach of the subject in terms of your socioeconomic views. And that is where moral objectivity breaks down; as I said, objective morality cannot exist on a small scale.
From my perspective, if you can't demonstrate why genocide of the chronically handicapped is morally right--if you fail to demonstrate why, then you're just wrong, flat-out. If you can demonstrate it, well, now you have yourself an objective argument. Just because something is controversial or difficult to argue doesn't make it subjective.

Edit:
Basically what Meta said. He's a lot faster than me, so I'll just let him take care for me...

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The Flood / Re: Endings of things that you actually enjoyed.
« on: January 06, 2015, 05:23:32 PM »
yeah, yeah
it still makes me giddy to know it's not canon anymore

About the jedi/sith thing though, that's just what I don't like about Star Wars. It's just arbitrary. It would feel less silly if the sith weren't card-carrying villains. Their side is literally called "the dark side". That's what makes lines like, "From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!" so stupid and laughable. Like, your side is NAMED after evil! You're evil! Duh!

It's not like red and blue, or democrat/republican, where it's kinda ambiguous. You know who to root for right away. If it were a better franchise, they'd have ways to sort of sympathize with the sith in some form or another. The movies did a piss-poor job of that. I just chalk it up to it being for... you know, kids. A lot of people get all emotional if I say that, though.

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Serious / Re: Try to convince me that morality isn't objective
« on: January 06, 2015, 05:14:28 PM »
Could you describe another scenario? The choice was pretty clear to me on the first one you gave. It may not be for someone else, but there's a difference between subjectivity in that sense and... someone who just doesn't have their priorities straight. In a platitude--"the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"... If one goes by that, the answer is always going to be clear. There's gotta be a more challenging scenario that would suggest a level of subjectivity.

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