It wasn't "mystic mumbo jumbo." It was just a concept that developed by observing the interdependent nature of things and it was called karma. There was no newton's third law thousands of years ago in south east asia to take its place.

so precisely when did this misconception arise

To live it. Plain and simple.

But one could say that life's meaning can be found in death and death gets its meaning through life.

I personally see it that the cosmos made this possible for us, all of us. Might as sell make the best of it.

this is a good start i guess

the second sentence kinda confuses me though

It does matter in the sense there is laws preventing me from doing so. Just because I think life has no meaning doesn't mean I want to be behind bars. Honestly, my views are weird on it. I acknowledge that there is no point, killing myself this very minute will be no different then waiting to die naturally. I just can't bring myself to ever do something like that though. Perhaps our very own hard-wiring of survival prevents me from doing so. I have a better explained post in serious of what I'm talking about. Give me a moment and I'll dig it up.

okay but, let me understand what you're saying here

if there were no laws, if we lived in anarchy, you would take advantage of that
you would kill/rape/steal from people?

you just said the only thing stopping you is your desire not to be behind bars
for me, it's a lot more than that

however if it is another's purpose then that's their purpose. Because again, everyone makes their own purpose.

then that's just a shit purpose, and like you, something that i'd

"advise against" doing

he goes and pulls his usual shit again.

mmmm, no, not at all, actually

you're just mad because i think you're stupid, especially if you honestly believe that reproduction is the "goal" of all living beings

and you obviously didn't understand what it was i was apologizing for

you guys shouldn't waste your time trying to counterargue, because i'm not arguing with you

there is no argument here

your meaning of life sucks if it doesn't account for all the suffering in the world

To enjoy it. You only get one go-round, so you should just live your life in a way that makes you personally happy.

that's always important, but that's more of a guideline instead of a "meaning"

as a meaning, enjoyment means jackshit

Don't die, have sex.

well that just falls flat on its face, because of one simple thing

...you're going to die

if you wanna say something like, "don't suffer," or... "don't die too soon," you might be on to something there

sex ought to be lower on your list of priorities, if you ask me, but whatever

To see and experience as many things as possible.

as many things as possible? i'm a quality over quantity kinda guy, personally

i'd rather have sex once than... get tortured in one hundred different ways

there is no "meaning of life", but there is a reason, a drive, to continue in the sense that there's a lot of sentient beings here on earth, and a lot of them are suffering--so the best course of action, in the most basic sense, is... "prevent the suffering"

that's my purpose for living--"prevent future suffering"

part of this is ceasing to procreate, or at least, being an advocate for that idea

see, when you say "make the world a better place," i can agree with that, but we have a completely different idea as to how to go about doing that

is that towards me or

i bet jim likes trap

Eh. I don't... know about that, necessarily.

This is too sci-fi to discuss in-depth, but I postulate that you probably wouldn't feel anything, and you would most certainly remain the same person... and the only reason I wouldn't bother is because I, too, have no desire to visit New Zealand at this time...

you're a moron

mods, lock the thread

I say I don't care about a lot of topics.

I also jump on Tblocks for posting "sigh" in every gun thread ever.

TL:DR, Verby wins.

thank you

lock this thread, it's over