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Serious / Re: Climate Change has become more dire than ever
« on: September 06, 2016, 01:50:40 PM »
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Serious / Re: Climate Change has became more dire than ever
« on: September 06, 2016, 01:39:37 PM »
I drink tea, I don't care.


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The Flood / Re: Personal life issue
« on: September 06, 2016, 11:01:29 AM »

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The Flood / Re: Personal life issue
« on: September 06, 2016, 10:57:30 AM »
I ordered another pizza.


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Gaming / Re: BF1 Beta feedback thread
« on: September 06, 2016, 10:48:40 AM »
Anybody fancy a cheeky skype/bf1 sesh?

lookin at you mr p

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Serious / Re: Should the British have stayed out of World War One?
« on: September 05, 2016, 05:45:20 PM »
There's a lot more to it than Le Eternal Anglo vs Le ebil Nazi Kraut.
Which is beside the point.

Had the British not fought in the War, Germany likely would've won.

The question is whether or not Europe would've been better off had Germany won.

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Serious / Re: Should the British have stayed out of World War One?
« on: September 05, 2016, 03:07:35 PM »
but both missing crucial parts of the big picture.
Mind elaborating on what that is?

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Serious / Should the British have stayed out of World War One?
« on: September 05, 2016, 02:49:29 PM »
And, by extension, the Americans.

Wikipedia excerpt on Niall Ferguson's book The Pity of War:

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This is an analytic account of what Ferguson considered to be the ten great myths of the Great War. The book generated much controversy, particularly Ferguson's suggestion that it might have proved more beneficial for Europe if Britain had stayed out of the First World War in 1914, thereby allowing Germany to win.[50] Ferguson has argued that the British decision to intervene was what stopped a German victory in 1914–15.

Furthermore, Ferguson expressed disagreement with the Sonderweg interpretation of German history championed by some German historians such as Fritz Fischer, Hans-Ulrich Wehler, Hans Mommsen and Wolfgang Mommsen, who argued that the German Empire deliberately started an aggressive war in 1914. Likewise, Ferguson has often attacked the work of the German historian Michael Stürmer, who argued that it was Germany's geographical situation in Central Europe that determined the course of German history.

On the contrary, Ferguson maintained that Germany waged a preventive war in 1914, a war largely forced on the Germans by reckless and irresponsible British diplomacy. In particular, Ferguson accused the British Foreign Secretary Sir Edward Grey of maintaining an ambiguous attitude to the question of whether Britain would enter the war or not, and thus confusing Berlin over just what was the British attitude towards the question of intervention in the war.[51] Ferguson accused London of unnecessarily allowing a regional war in Europe to escalate into a world war. Moreover, Ferguson denied that the origins of National Socialism could be traced back to Imperial Germany; instead Ferguson asserted the origins of Nazism could only be traced back to the First World War and its aftermath.

Ferguson attacked a number of ideas that he called "myths" in the book. They are listed here (with his counter-arguments in parentheses):

- That Germany was a highly militarist country before 1914 (Ferguson claims Germany was Europe's most anti-militarist country).[52]

- That naval challenges mounted by Germany drove Britain into informal alliances with France and Russia before 1914 (Ferguson claims the British chose alliances with France and Russia as a form of appeasement due to the strength of those nations, and an Anglo-German alliance failed to materialize due to German weakness).[53]

- That British foreign policy was driven by legitimate fears of Germany (Ferguson claims Germany posed no threat to Britain before 1914, and that all British fears of Germany were due to irrational anti-German prejudices).[54]

- That the pre-1914 arms race was consuming ever larger portions of national budgets at an unsustainable rate (Ferguson claims that the only limitations on more military spending before 1914 were political, not economic).[55]

- That World War I was, as Fritz Fischer claimed, a war of aggression on the part of Germany that necessitated British involvement to stop Germany from conquering Europe (Ferguson claims that if Germany had been victorious, something like the European Union would have been created in 1914, and that it would have been for the best if Britain had chosen to opt out of war in 1914).[56]

- That most people were happy with the outbreak of war in 1914 (Ferguson claims that most Europeans were saddened by the coming of war).[57]

- That propaganda was successful in making men wish to fight (Ferguson argues the opposite).[58]

- That the Allies made the best use of their economic resources (Ferguson argues that the Allies “squandered” their economic resources).[59]

- That the British and the French had the better armies (Ferguson claims the German Army was superior).[60]

- That the Allies were more efficient at killing Germans (Ferguson argues that the Germans were more efficient at killing the Allies).[61]

- That most soldiers hated fighting in the war (Ferguson argues most soldiers fought more or less willingly).[62]

- That the British treated German prisoners of war well (Ferguson argues the British routinely killed German POWs).[63]

- That Germany was faced with reparations after 1921 that could not be paid except at ruinous economic cost (Ferguson argues that Germany could easily have paid reparations had there been the political will).[64]

Another controversial aspect of The Pity of War is Ferguson's use of counterfactual history also known as "speculative" or "hypothetical" history. In the book, Ferguson presents a hypothetical version of Europe being, under Imperial German domination, a peaceful, prosperous, democratic continent, without ideologies like communism or fascism.[65]

In Ferguson's view, had Germany won World War I, then the lives of millions would have been saved, something like the European Union would have been founded in 1914, and Britain would have remained an empire as well as the world's dominant financial power.[65]

Interview with Ferguson (just stick it at the beginning):

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IQ Squared debate on the topic:

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An article from Radio Times where Max Hastings and Niall Ferguson present their opposing viewpoints.

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Gaming / Re: BF1 Beta feedback thread
« on: September 05, 2016, 11:14:10 AM »

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Gaming / Re: BF1 Beta feedback thread
« on: September 05, 2016, 07:46:40 AM »
What're everybody's stats?

SPM: 216
Wins: 48%
KPM: 0.43
Time: 19h
K/D: 0.89

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Gaming / Re: BF1 Beta feedback thread
« on: September 05, 2016, 04:33:24 AM »
I take it they've increased the time limit.

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The Flood / this song is for real niggaz ONLY
« on: September 05, 2016, 04:14:58 AM »
YouTube

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The Flood / Re: Most creative way to kill yourself?
« on: September 05, 2016, 03:45:40 AM »
give me your address and i'll come do it for you

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The Flood / Re: Bit of a greentext meme
« on: September 05, 2016, 03:17:49 AM »
that was a shit meme

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Serious / Re: Why is Globalism bad?
« on: September 05, 2016, 03:05:48 AM »
The thread is "Why is Globalism Bad" not "Cite with sources explaining the failures of Globalism and society."
Irrelevant, when I disputed your claim you brought up Gene Roddenberry as a source along with some vague and condescending statement about the nature of communism, which I'm pretty sure nobody fully understood.

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Globalism isn't bad, as we can't achieve our potential until we move past tribalism.
This isn't the discussion we are having; I agree that globalism is good. The point of contention is how you describe tribalism and its effects. As well as your ridiculous characterisation of science fiction.

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Fine.
You should probably check the reputation of your source after just searching "Tribalism is bad" into Google. FEE is a fairly well-known uber-libertarian think-tank that has articles praising Ludwig von Mises as the greatest thinker of the 20th Century. But, let's see what FEE says:

Tribalism is the belief in the supremacy of one’s group identity over the rights of individual human beings.

No, it isn't. The article is making its point on the back of a loaded definition. Taking the actual definition from Oxford Dictionary, it's pretty easy to see that tribalism is the natural state of human beings.

It's also kind of ironic how your entire article is about how capitalism has overcome the limits of tribalism by promoting trust (something even I don't agree with), whereas you are here arguing we are yet to move past it. So there's three arguments here: that tribalism is still around and it's horrible, that tribalism has been removed in capitalist societies due to the promotion of trust, or that tribalism is still around but really not as bad as you seem to think.

And the correct answer is probably a mixture of all three.

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Gaming / Re: BF1 Beta feedback thread
« on: September 04, 2016, 06:00:49 AM »
Oh, my biggest complaint about the game is spawning.
 
Way too many times have I spawned on a flag being capped, and I'm totally out in the open. It feels like it's the same for every flag currently being taken. Especially for B, where a tank can just sit on it and mow you down.

It feels like a real downgrade from BF4's system. Well, the UI does in general to be fair, especially the whole "skip revive" bullshit.

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Gaming / Re: BF1 Beta feedback thread
« on: September 04, 2016, 05:59:17 AM »
How to tackle tanks and if the map favours them too much, is another thing.
Yeah, I get that. I imagine lobbing 'nades or using the rocket gun on tanks would be easier on a map like Scar. Sinai Desert would probably be a bit better if there was more cover.

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I'm kind of doing alright tackling down a tank, as long as my team is also tying to
This is an issue for me.

I really don't see many people running Assault. Or, at least, I don't see many people running Assault and then being decent as tackling armour.

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Gaming / Re: BF1 Beta feedback thread
« on: September 04, 2016, 04:58:23 AM »
The Anti-Tank equipment in the game, yet you can't seem to use any of it. Have you tried getting good rather than complaining it about it constantly?
I would say, and this is probably due to the openness of the map, that the effective range of tank weapons is a bit too high. When a machine gunner in a heavy tank can mow me down from the rock bridge while I'm running towards G from spawn, his gun is a little too accurate.

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Gaming / Re: BF1 Beta feedback thread
« on: September 04, 2016, 03:31:45 AM »
So, I like it more than I did at the start.

But it makes me rage. I punched a hole through the wardrobe door.
Lmao you're a bk
imma git gud doe

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Gaming / Re: BF1 Beta feedback thread
« on: September 03, 2016, 11:06:24 AM »
So, I like it more than I did at the start.

But it makes me rage. I punched a hole through the wardrobe door.

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The Flood / never fails to make me laugh
« on: September 03, 2016, 10:57:05 AM »
YouTube

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The Flood / Re: where the fuck is my pizza
« on: September 03, 2016, 10:44:24 AM »
Is it good fam?

Did they say sorry at least?
yeah, the driver looked exactly how I imagined he'd look, too.

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The Flood / Re: where the fuck is my pizza
« on: September 03, 2016, 10:36:13 AM »
it's here

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The Flood / Re: where the fuck is my pizza
« on: September 03, 2016, 10:27:06 AM »
this is fucking taking the piss

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The Flood / Re: where the fuck is my pizza
« on: September 03, 2016, 10:24:58 AM »
ITS NEARLY HALF FUCKING FOUR

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The Flood / Re: where the fuck is my pizza
« on: September 03, 2016, 10:03:35 AM »
It was me all along
where were u wen day ruined

fone ring, is chally

"pizza is kill"

no

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The Flood / Re: where the fuck is my pizza
« on: September 03, 2016, 10:01:15 AM »
its now 4:01

I was gonna let them keep the 10p change, but now fuck em

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The Flood / Re: where the fuck is my pizza
« on: September 03, 2016, 09:59:17 AM »
>Still phoning in pizza
>2016
wat

i used justeat

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The Flood / Re: where the fuck is my pizza
« on: September 03, 2016, 09:32:40 AM »
Ask to speak to Papa John
i ordered it from prego's

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