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14221
« on: August 24, 2014, 09:08:46 AM »
Maybe she's wanted to stay there all that time? Maybe she has inheritance or something? Unless you can give me her bank statement, I don't think this Choo-choo can be used as a proper example.
However, what do you suggest? Price floors will always cause an increase in supply. Minimum wage will either literally result in jobs being lost or slow the growth of the labour market. I don't know what the situation is like in the U.S., but over here the difference between minimum wage and "living wage" is almost exactly what the government taxes them.
I do know, for the U.S., that the most effective forms of poverty reduction are transfers and subsidies like the E.I.T.C., which'd be a far better model than simply raising the minimum wage like a Neanderthal with a club.
14222
« on: August 24, 2014, 09:04:23 AM »
I have three questions: - Which economists do we listen to? - How do you explain the global and dramatic reduction in violence throughout history? It would seem that a massive, one-world government would be prone to incredible instability and need to "section" itself, while giving the sections considerable autonomy. - It may very well be true that scientists are not motivated by market forces when researching/inventing, but the market is the single best tool for innovation, which makes everybody wealthier. Do you deny the innovative powers of the market?
14223
« on: August 24, 2014, 08:59:47 AM »
>The government shouldn't have bailed out any of the automotive or banking companies.
Mein neger. That's like the only one I disagreed with.
14224
« on: August 23, 2014, 06:34:20 PM »
U wot m8?
george galloway is slimy, self-serving scum.
14225
« on: August 23, 2014, 06:25:44 PM »
> George Galloway should be PM
Damn right <.<
omg die
14226
« on: August 23, 2014, 06:01:29 PM »
I agree with all of those points save for the Euroscepticism, abolishing of minimum wage, and your Econo jargon (I have no idea what it all is, so I'm not gonna make an opinion on it right now)
Yes, but I want to know some of your opinions which have caused controversy.
14227
« on: August 23, 2014, 05:58:42 PM »
Probably every opinion I have.
nah m80 ur just a giant faggoot
14228
« on: August 23, 2014, 05:53:48 PM »
What opinions do you hold that have irritated people in the past? I'll probably have a bit of an advantage here since I actually took politics and it's really easy to irritate morons.
All of these, at one point or another, has provoked ire from somebody else:
- Euroscepticism.
- I'm generally very pro-immigration.
- Pro-fracking.
- Very pro-nuclear energy.
- Not being a Keynesian (from my politics teacher, who said it worked for Hitler), and not being a socialist (from a classmate).
- Some inflation is good.
- The abolition of the minimum wage.
- The establishment of a negative income tax.
- The abolition of corporation tax.
- Flatter income tax rates.
- Greater private influence in pensions (like Chile's system).
- Private providers of healthcare (like anywhere that knows what the fuck it's doing).
- Abolishing the NHS.
- Selling the right to live here.
- Government caused the Recession.
- The Financial Crisis was largely caused by unfortunate, but well-meaning, regulations.
- Taking minimum wage earners out of income tax.
- Rehabilitation is way more important than punishment.
Those are all that come to mind, at the moment.
Special addition - Kinder's opinions:
- Being a fascist.
14229
« on: August 23, 2014, 05:37:07 PM »
Fuckin' A that's incriminatory.
14230
« on: August 23, 2014, 05:35:40 PM »
no u
 Obviously just fucking jealous.
14231
« on: August 23, 2014, 05:30:23 PM »
Comms and Sentra are officially ordained into the High Order of Fucking Bros.
14232
« on: August 23, 2014, 05:29:00 PM »
 Let's see those incriminating tabs.
14233
« on: August 23, 2014, 04:56:41 PM »
Problem is, which economists should be listened to more? Economics isn't an exact science and you'll find that a lot of highly educated and intelligent economists still disagree on many of today's issues.
I'm talking about the really fuckin' obvious shit. Subsidies, price controls, tariffs - the things which are pretty much universally supported. The other stuff? I'm not so sure. I am hopeful when I see things like New Zealand bringing together the Keynesians and neo-Monetarists in genius ways like proposing to put fiscal stimulus under the remit of the central bank. And then you have the policies with strong academic and political support - like NGDPLT - which have little costs in comparison to the huge potential benefits. I'm not saying economists' words should be dogma, I'm just saying that the political theatre of today ignores or politicises them far too much.
14234
« on: August 23, 2014, 04:48:26 PM »
Spoiler It's a joke, just like UKIP
you fukkin w0t
14235
« on: August 23, 2014, 04:47:53 PM »
I'd take technocracy to the ends of the earth <.<
Proper technocracy mind you, not just extended cronyism.
Take the badger cull debacle, they ignore the advice of all the scientists and insist on shooting them to appease the fucking farmers. It makes it worse, they don't kill enough of them and ohohoho look at that, ignoring scientists led to what? A mess.
._.
Or Mental Health services, you have Psychiatrists and The royal college putting it as bluntly as they can that it's failing millions and they keep cutting it. Do they put more funding into it? Nope. Do they slash it's budget again and again? Of course they fucking do, they are tories.
o.e
This is why I tend to avoid political discussion, because it usually ends up with me getting pissed off >.>
I can understand that. But everything is fundamentally a game of economics; how you allocate the resources. You can't have all these technocratic institutions governing themselves because you still need a government to fund them and legislation is, in itself, a skill. I agree, economists should probably be listened to more, but I think the solution is to allow these elements greater autonomy in the face of the political process, not to base the government around "experts".
14236
« on: August 23, 2014, 04:00:56 PM »
You should thank me.
My upvote just pushed you up to Ascended. I'm cushioning your inevitable fall, here.
14237
« on: August 23, 2014, 03:59:02 PM »
And an equally, if not longer list of problems caused by politicians and statesmen can also be drawn up.
Scientists and Economists > Politicians.
The Soviet scientists and economists did more damage than any politician could've possible hoped to have done. Although, I agree with the basic sentiment. I'm just not sure how far you want to take this technocratic ideal >.>
14238
« on: August 23, 2014, 03:56:46 PM »
Guess the order of the public's voting intentions! 4. Spoiler Liberal Democrats - 8% (-1). 3. 2. Spoiler Conservatives - 32% (+1) 1. Overall, I'm quite optimistic about that. Spoiler If nothing changes, we'll have another hung parliament and might see a Tory-Ukip coalition.
14239
« on: August 23, 2014, 03:40:27 PM »
> Scots complain about Opresshun
> mfw it was the Scottish who conquered England and not the other way around.
>tfw we still came out on top.
14240
« on: August 23, 2014, 03:39:26 PM »
Fascism comes in all shapes, sizes, and colors my friend.
Churchill did say "The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists." Identifying as a libertarian is close enough for Kinder.
14241
« on: August 23, 2014, 03:17:11 PM »
The shittiest people are the ones who are assholes to each other over political opinions. You don't have to agree with Recon, but to dislike him because you don't agree with him is pretty low. You have to be under some pretty strong political indoctrination to really make it your priority to hate people with different opinions.
Unless they're fascists/Nazis. They suck.
14242
« on: August 23, 2014, 03:16:43 PM »
nah
i kno w0t u look like anyway ur in my dreems
14243
« on: August 23, 2014, 03:14:08 PM »
I've explained to you before, the "militarization" of police isn't bad. We live in a new age where serious threats are being made constantly and foreign groups are trying to cause harm to the nation.
Whatever little respect I had for you has now just disappeared. I hope you never get a position of authority, you fascist scumbag.
14244
« on: August 23, 2014, 03:11:59 PM »
Over some issues, yes. But generally I'd like to see the United States of Europe someday >.>
I quite like their technocratic approach to a lot of issues and whilst it might seem like pointless and silly meddling it generally has a point and purpose. Like outlawing certain lightbulbs, vacuum cleaners and setting green energy targets etc.
I'm not of the mind that we should let the planet get run into the ground and then expect the free market to fix it for profit.
You could draw up a long list of disasters and problems caused by "technocrats".
14245
« on: August 23, 2014, 02:51:50 PM »
Your context of speech says otherwise. When you speak about an organization or group, then you're talking about everybody affiliated with it. Don't want people to think that? Say something like "what the fuck is wrong with certain cops in the U.S?"
Holy shit, I literally just gave you a paragraph and the answer is still the same. This reminds me of the time you jumped on Commissar for saying something like a "liberal interpretation of the Constitution" and you immediately went into political-Liberal bashing mode. Jesus Christ, get over yourself.
14246
« on: August 23, 2014, 01:36:19 PM »
"What the fuck is wrong with the police in the U.S.?"
Yeah, you did. You said "the police" meaning all policeFact remains that the actions of a few don't represent all
Well, no it doesn't. You could only reach that conclusion with any confidence by being a pedantic piece of shit and, even then, you're still wrong. If I say "what the fuck is wrong with ASDA", I'm not condemning every single employee. There could be something wrong with structure, management, perception, general ethics et cetera, with a relationship which can be mapped inversely by number of individuals and influence. I'm not even beginning to claim that every single copper is corrupt. Please thing before you speak.
14247
« on: August 23, 2014, 01:31:20 PM »
Oh shit, I need to check my emails.
14248
« on: August 23, 2014, 01:28:23 PM »
So you're telling me the action of ONE police officer means all 764,999 of officers in the U.S are also bad? Sorry buddy, but there will ALWAYS be a bad apple out of an entire picking. Stop acting like Kiyo
Well, first of all, I didn't say that. Second of all, no it wasn't just one police officer.
14249
« on: August 23, 2014, 01:27:17 PM »
So what, just let him walk the fuck away and not arrest him? Fucking lol
You know exactly what I mean; reductio ad absurdum doesn't make you look clever or justify the way you're treating the matter.
14250
« on: August 23, 2014, 01:16:47 PM »
I'll have no fucking problem taking that pathetic piece of shit down if he EVER lays a single hand on me Yeah, I can tell you've got the right fucking attitude, m80.
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