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13801
« on: September 02, 2014, 05:39:02 PM »
I was debating whether or not to put this in Serious, but I'd like it to be here. If any mod or monitor wants to move it over to Serious, feel free.
So, it was called The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Religion and Politics by Jonathan Haidt. Essentially, the book takes a very Humean and descriptive view to how we, as individuals and groups, come to acquire moral sentiments, how those moral foundations evolve into different political beliefs and how they link to how we've been genetically programmed and culturally influenced.
It also talks about how liberalism, of which Haidt is a subscriber, has a narrower moral foundation than does conservatism, and how it can lead to conservatives having the upper hand in political elections during times of perceived threat, and how they so often misunderstand each other and are driven to hostility. He also suggests considerations from each partisan group that should be adopted be liberals, libertarians and conservatives alike.
It also takes a different line to the New Atheist people who describe religion, often, as a failed science with no genetic basis - like a parasitic meme. It talks about how religion makes people "better" citizens and neighbours - in terms of altruistic behaviour - and comes to the conclusion that community, not the beliefs on their own, come to dominate the motivations of those in worshipful communities to act for good or for ill.
On the whole, it was a great, well-sourced and informative book. While I'm dubious to some of its claims, it's still definitely worth the read. It changed my political opinions to a degree, and even made me more sympathetic to religion.
Check it out.
13802
« on: September 02, 2014, 05:31:37 PM »
You just described my friend who is the Head of Philosophy in sixth form.
Oh shit nigger.
13803
« on: September 02, 2014, 04:41:34 PM »
The Conservative Party to crumble and die.
Spoiler Real life dragons would be cool too though, I want a dragon :3 I'LL F00KIN BURST YE
13804
« on: September 02, 2014, 04:39:32 PM »
Lol. I honestly really like Door
What was he banned for?
13805
« on: September 02, 2014, 04:33:13 PM »
The Labour Party to crumble and die.
13806
« on: September 02, 2014, 04:29:51 PM »
Yes clearly. At least wrong when it comes to the Universe.
Now I don't know what you're trying to say. To clarify my point, theists who border on agnosticism - or who are intensely open-minded - are usually the best teachers of philosophy. Teachers who actively identify themselves as an atheist (despite it not being an active position) will end up as OP-described fedora tippers.
13807
« on: September 02, 2014, 04:25:42 PM »
The only god is the Universe, its the only reasonable explanation.
Or, or, or. . . There isn't a god at all!
13808
« on: September 02, 2014, 04:22:51 PM »
Sure, they're not as scary as the Third Reich or the USSR, but given how fast they've assimilated huge portions of Iraq and Syria with tactical brilliance illustrates that they're more than just a disorganized "mafia" as you say. We definitely need to be keeping an eye on them.
I'm not saying otherwise, nor am I calling them disorganised. I'm calling them out for what they are - thugs and criminals. Not a legitimate political entity.
13809
« on: September 02, 2014, 04:10:08 PM »
Ask him if he wants to continue the Fallout forum game
Yes he does.
13810
« on: September 02, 2014, 04:07:16 PM »
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
13811
« on: September 02, 2014, 04:00:15 PM »
No. I'm not usually squeamish about these things, but this video was good quality and you could see right into the guys eyes. I started feeling sick so I turned it off before it got bad.
Send it to me.
13812
« on: September 02, 2014, 03:51:23 PM »
What puzzles me most is why we seem to give these people any sense of legitimacy. We treat them as a foreign military, as a political entity, as a government. They are not. We all know what happens when you have a moral system which combines tribalism and worshipful devotion. Religion isn't the problem, it's an accessory to the problem. The true problem lies in the politics. No worshipful institution, be they State or Church, should command a group for its own ends. It's like a psychopath with an army. Our countries have stood side-by-side before in the face of tyranny, even if we did so ambivalently at time. We've stood against France in the 1800s, Germany in the 1930s-40s and again the Soviets until 1991. That was tyranny, they were threats. We aren't dealing with a rogue government here. We're dealing with a fucking mafia; thieves and murderers with principles. I think they deserve to be treated like the criminals they are, and face death for their crimes. /rant Spoiler No, I'm not condoning extreme military action against them. That normally causes more problem than they solve, but they simply must be dealt with, and I'm calling them out for what they are.
13813
« on: September 02, 2014, 03:49:09 PM »
In my experience she might see you as immature or younger than her. Like a little brother.
I've never heard a girl use it in that way, at least here.
13814
« on: September 02, 2014, 03:47:17 PM »
-snip-
13815
« on: September 02, 2014, 03:41:28 PM »
That is fucking sick. How in the hell can these people cut off someone's head and feel no remorse?
A divinity complex can turn people into temporary psychopaths.
13816
« on: September 02, 2014, 03:31:56 PM »
I don't think hunny means what you think it means.
w0t
13817
« on: September 02, 2014, 03:10:03 PM »
There isn't a God, if I said space-magic existed in science i'd get marked down
Don't ever take up philosophy. For the sake of us all.
13818
« on: September 02, 2014, 03:04:50 PM »
Put this in #Serious instead
Why? It's not about politics or religion. It's just general news.
13819
« on: September 02, 2014, 03:02:38 PM »
PMQs are unbearable.
It's like a fucking forum argument with no mods ._.
lolw0t speaker of the house?
13820
« on: September 02, 2014, 03:02:12 PM »
Yeah but they would be inherently wrong meta
I think you're trying to imply religious people are all inherently wrong, but I'm not sure.
13821
« on: September 02, 2014, 03:00:59 PM »
Meta, you know that American politics isn't real, it's just a reality TV show
I know. I watch it quite often. I don't know why it's called Jersey Shore, though.
13822
« on: September 02, 2014, 02:59:35 PM »
I was lucky. Philosophy is one of those classes where you need a decent teacher. To be honest, I think moderate religious people are better disposed to teach it.
At least mine were.
13823
« on: September 02, 2014, 02:53:03 PM »
Of course, I'm being sardonic. Parliaments are much more entertaining than Congress.
13824
« on: September 02, 2014, 02:47:14 PM »
You've never seen your true face, only reflections and pictures.
13825
« on: September 02, 2014, 02:46:11 PM »
It's a story that's actually from way back in April. I don't remember anyone really picking up on it. Anyway, it's being hailed as a tipping point in the fight against cancer. Half of all people diagnosed with cancer in England and Wales today will survive the disease, Britain’s leading research charity has said, in a landmark announcement which experts have hailed as a “tipping point” in the global fight against cancer.
Using the largest and most up-to-date set of statistics on cancer treatment and survival available anywhere in the world, Cancer Research UK have been able to estimate that 50 per cent of patients who were diagnosed in 2010-11 will survive for 10 years – effectively meaning that they have been cured.who
Announcing their findings, which are derived from an analysis of survival trends involving more than seven million cancer patients diagnosed between 1971 and 2011 in England and Wales, Cancer Research UK said that by the 2030s, it was realistic to hope that as many as three in every four cancer patients would survive 10 years after diagnosis.
13826
« on: September 02, 2014, 02:43:58 PM »
ENTP.
13827
« on: September 02, 2014, 02:42:46 PM »
I have no problem giving up my right to privacy if it keeps myself and my homeland safer.
That's a fine sacrifice for you to make. However, one cannot force others to violate their right to privacy.
13828
« on: September 02, 2014, 10:46:04 AM »
i dun goof'd
that wasnt the video i meant to post
Eh, works either way.
13829
« on: September 02, 2014, 10:42:50 AM »
political shit flinging had me like
Why do you think we come here? It's all part of the circus.
13830
« on: September 02, 2014, 10:39:44 AM »
Isn't Moriarty also a narcissistic psychopath?
Fuck off, Sherlock Holmes is INTJ too.
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