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12541
« on: September 28, 2014, 06:54:49 PM »
I believe that global warming is an elaborate hoax scientists and the government use to expand their power.
Oh great, a falsified graph
Citation needed.
Sorry, but that's not it works bud. I'd like to see something that validates that the information in the graph is good. I'd like a citation for that.
How do we do that when you've quite clearly claimed that private institutions are "simply wrong" if they promulgate global warming?
12542
« on: September 28, 2014, 06:53:47 PM »
The government benefits by manipulating information. The "green" corporations do too. That isn't an assumption I'm making. That isn't what I said. Are you stating that certain interests don't stand to benefit to preserve the status quote, that global warming isn't an issue? The main driver behind global warming policy change is self benefit, the second driver is misinformation. I don't see how you can sit here and claim they're "simply wrong" without any supporting evidence or information for the idea that global warming is an elaborate hoax. Are there political motivations which cause fear-mongering and excessive claims? Absolutely. Is the environmentalist movement quite extreme at times? Certainly. However, there are solutions to global warming which require neither extensive governmental controls or corporate welfare. Indeed, the IPCC states that the best weapon against climate change is a strong market economy. Nonetheless, it seems altogether prudent to treat the issue as if it were real, given the trade-off of not doing so.
12543
« on: September 28, 2014, 06:48:31 PM »
American involvement in the Middle-East is for the purpose of controlling oil and ensuring the protection of the petrodollar
We're hostile with Iran not because of nuclear program, but because of it's resistance to accept the petrodollar
I have to say, I absolutely despise the petrodollar theory.
12544
« on: September 28, 2014, 06:42:20 PM »
But I think out of all of them the Russian dead man switch is true.
That's a conspiracy theory?
12545
« on: September 28, 2014, 06:41:19 PM »
I believe that global warming is an elaborate hoax scientists and the government use to expand their power.
Oh great, a falsified graph from a government administration whose power increases if people come to the conclusion they're trying to get us to come to.
Pro-tip: the government isn't a valid source.
The problem with this seems to be two assumptions you're making. The first is that nobody stands to benefit by manipulating information to fit the status-quo and the second is that scientists, the government and the renewable-energy industry are the only networks which stand for the environmentalist position. Correct me if I'm wrong in that analysis, however, neither of those assumptions are correct.
12546
« on: September 28, 2014, 06:35:39 PM »
I believe that global warming is an elaborate hoax scientists and the government use to expand their power.
12547
« on: September 28, 2014, 06:28:36 PM »
Turns out it's "for-bad", not "for-bade".
12548
« on: September 28, 2014, 06:13:08 PM »
Oswald didn't work alone.
Who?
I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this.
. . . Lee Harvey Oswald.
12549
« on: September 28, 2014, 06:10:12 PM »
I have to interject that it isn't fear which drives fundamentalism, but group psychology.
The beasts of ISIS are motivated, just as much as by their beliefs, as the sense of community that ISIS offers them. It's the same reason church-goers are generally more charitable than non-church-goers. To switch out fear for insult, and a perceived attack on the group, I think would be a stronger determinant for fundamentalism, and it is the poverty-induced ignorance which can lead them to the beliefs which act as the steering wheel of the community - which would be the engine.
As for opposition to fundamentalism? Fear can often by the largest motivation for reaction. Indeed, whatever you deny people, they will simply take at one point or another. The only way in which you couldn't fight people like this while fearful is hope that it won't last forever.
12550
« on: September 28, 2014, 05:50:15 PM »
Because there are Muslim countries that don't have groups like ISIS Yes, but those Muslim countries tend not to be dirt poor. The UAE and Saudi Arabia being two examples.
12551
« on: September 28, 2014, 05:48:57 PM »
I have to say I can't think of a single one.
Really? <.<
Well, I won't say that's surprising because there are very few that I don't just dismiss outright >.>
But none at all that might be true? Or cover ups?
No. We'll accept a bad theory to a proper one, on the whole, so I make a point of trying to break the mold there. Most conspiracy theories are intensely-concentrated bullshit when you pay it some semblance of intelligence and I don't think governments are capable of covering them up as well as they apparently have been.
12552
« on: September 28, 2014, 05:41:13 PM »
Play nice m80s, the discussion is fine but kerb the AdHoms pls.
FUCK YOU, YOU'RE NOT A- Oh wait.
12553
« on: September 28, 2014, 05:40:39 PM »
I have to say I can't think of a single one.
12554
« on: September 28, 2014, 05:33:40 PM »
You going to cry about it? It was a simple mistake. I was thinking 10,000,000 instead of 1,00,000. They killed more but nobody knows an actual number of people killed during the Crusades. The Crusades were not just military conflicts. It's multiple conflicts grouped as one under religion and politics, hence why all eight crusades are refereed to as The Crusades
I can understand the purely numerical mistake, it's the temporal one I found most worrying.
12555
« on: September 28, 2014, 04:50:14 PM »
Bro, I'm highly intelligent and educated, especially when it comes to the areas of history and geography. And yet you tried to claim it took the Crusades centuries to kill the amount of people Hitler and Stalin did in decades when I) they didn't even kill that many people, II) they lasted, themselves, just decades and III) there's a difference of around 700 years between the two instances.
12556
« on: September 28, 2014, 04:07:08 PM »
>Liberal party
>it's conservative
Fucking Yuropoors
Liberal still means classical liberal here.
>Democrat party
>it's nationalist
Again, fucking yuropoors
You got me there.
12557
« on: September 28, 2014, 04:03:14 PM »
>Liberal party
>it's conservative
Fucking Yuropoors
Liberal still means classical liberal here.
12558
« on: September 28, 2014, 03:54:26 PM »
Jack and Coke
>2014 >corrupting whiskey with pleb drinks >being this much of a plebian
12559
« on: September 28, 2014, 03:53:21 PM »
Weirdo.
How exactly is it weird?
12560
« on: September 28, 2014, 03:34:11 PM »
Johnnie Walker Black Label with Perrier, lime and sometimes ice cubes.
Shame it's so expensive though. I can do just water or ice cubes if I don't have an perrier though. Having a job will certainly help.
12561
« on: September 28, 2014, 02:59:02 PM »
Bertrand Russell: I believe in using words, not fists. I believe in my outrage knowing people are living in boxes on the street. I believe in honesty. I believe in a good time. I believe in good food. I believe in sex. The secret to happiness is to face the fact that the world is horrible. Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate. The megalomaniac differs from the narcissist by the fact that he wishes to be powerful rather than charming, and seeks to be feared rather than loved. To this type belong many lunatics and most of the great men of history. Christopher Hitchens: The totalitarian, to me, is the enemy - the one that's absolute, the one that wants control over the inside of your head, not just your actions and your taxes. Knowing that we are primates, I think, is a fascinating discovery, and a very interesting and rather cheering one. It's impossible, I think, however much I'd become disillusioned politically or evolve into a post-political person, I don't think I'd ever change my view that socialism is the best political moment humans have ever come up with. I'm not particularly a feminist, but if you get women off the animal cycle of reproduction and give them some say in how many children they'll have, immediately the floor will rise. H.L. Mencken: I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant. Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. I'll leave it here since I don't want the OP to be dominated by a giant fuck-off list.
12562
« on: September 28, 2014, 02:50:21 PM »
Hasn't AQI recently thrown its lot in with ISIS?
12563
« on: September 28, 2014, 01:51:36 PM »
Take a look at Islam. Take a look at the Tea Party, or just the entire Bible Belt.
I'm speaking about society as an aggregate.
I imagine the Muslims ashamed of ISIS or the citizens generally fed up with the polarisation of American politics outnumber those more ideological loyalists.
They may be ashamed, but do they do anything to stop it? No. And in the meanwhile fundamentalism grows.
But I don't think it's a matter of "growing" fundamentalism. There seems to be a spectrum on which the people of society lie with fundamentalism at one end. I agree there is a sort of liberal cowardice among the Left and the Libertarians and even those on the Right, but it's just that fundamentalism currently has the spotlight in the tug-of-war more than society in general becoming more Victorian.
12564
« on: September 28, 2014, 01:45:01 PM »
Take a look at Islam. Take a look at the Tea Party, or just the entire Bible Belt.
I'm speaking about society as an aggregate. I imagine the Muslims ashamed of ISIS or the citizens generally fed up with the polarisation of American politics outnumber those more ideological loyalists.
12565
« on: September 28, 2014, 01:42:55 PM »
Yeah, neither do I.
It's much more convenient to do so.
LMFAO. My body, my choice bitch.
I'm not saying it isn't. I'm just saying I find it much more comfortable and convenient when I do shave my armpit hair.
12566
« on: September 28, 2014, 01:37:34 PM »
My religious studies teacher was talking about fundamentalism as a growing force in the religious and social worlds due to the fact that we've gone so far away from the "original". She says that the English Christians and the Muslims all over the world are becoming more fundamentalist in their views and more traditionalist.
She used one example of three girls who came up to her in one lesson asking for a textbook because they didn't want to work on a computer after seeing screens all their lives (the girls were born within the 2000s) and religious pupils in her lessons (again born within the 2000s) being more literalist in their views.
Personally, I think she doesn't understand what she's talking about. I can't bring myself to claim that fundamentalism is growing. Can you?
12567
« on: September 28, 2014, 01:26:20 PM »
Yeah, neither do I.
It's much more convenient to do so.
12568
« on: September 28, 2014, 01:23:30 PM »
Norman.
12569
« on: September 28, 2014, 01:21:49 PM »
Also: 
12570
« on: September 28, 2014, 01:14:45 PM »
Atheists just need something to justify not believing in God.
or, more correctly, juvenile mockery
Very important distinction.
I agree. People like Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens need to be made distinct from the likes of anti-religious fedora tippers.
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