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« on: October 11, 2014, 11:58:21 AM »
The definition of God is a supreme being, among other predicates, whom exists.
You can't say God doesn't exist when it's in his definition that He exists.
If you ever have a child, you'll probably end up seeing the fallacy in your argument here. The definition of anything includes, in one way or another, its existence. To claim the definition of God as proof of his existence is merely to fall foul of ontological sophistry. "Daddy, where do dragons live?" "Oh honey, dragons aren't real." "If dragons aren't real, why do we have a word for them?"
12152
« on: October 11, 2014, 11:39:04 AM »
What's going on in this thread.
12153
« on: October 11, 2014, 10:10:36 AM »
Just because some have more motivation to commit a crime doesn't make what they did any less heinous.
How can you reasonable say that? Beating a man to death for hitting on your wife is obviously fundamentally different to beating him to death for raping your son.
12154
« on: October 11, 2014, 10:01:32 AM »
let them run loose without consequence just because they have a harder time controlling themselves.
Not holding them morally accountable doesn't mean there are no consequences for their actions.
Let me clarify: there should be no different consequences for the same actions.
So a schizophrenic who murders a 25-year-old man with a knife should be given exactly the same punishment as a psychopath who murders a 25-year-old man with a knife?
12155
« on: October 11, 2014, 09:30:55 AM »
12156
« on: October 11, 2014, 07:49:11 AM »
center-left socialist
That's like saying I'm a centre-right fascist.
12157
« on: October 11, 2014, 07:32:00 AM »
I'd probably stab you.
12158
« on: October 11, 2014, 06:53:40 AM »
Why the hell does he have the Gestapo as his nameplate?
Oh God, does he?
12159
« on: October 11, 2014, 06:26:03 AM »
12160
« on: October 11, 2014, 05:18:08 AM »
Stop making me laugh omfg
Oh, it's not what you think. Most of it wasn't consensual.
12161
« on: October 11, 2014, 05:15:14 AM »
I'm afraid I have to agree with Door to be honest.
It's probably me.
12162
« on: October 11, 2014, 05:14:08 AM »
 Don't let it be so!
12163
« on: October 11, 2014, 05:12:31 AM »
I hate Bill Maher but am a (obviously) huge fan of Harris.
Although:
> taking this long to be done with TYT
12164
« on: October 11, 2014, 05:10:26 AM »
I usually identify as a liberal or a libertarian.
I'd probably be recognised by most as a conservative Democrat, though.
12165
« on: October 11, 2014, 05:09:19 AM »
let them run loose without consequence just because they have a harder time controlling themselves.
Not holding them morally accountable doesn't mean there are no consequences for their actions.
12166
« on: October 10, 2014, 05:43:14 PM »
Oh God, you're here.
12167
« on: October 10, 2014, 05:40:59 PM »
Why would you even think that
Maybe I'm just cynical.
12168
« on: October 10, 2014, 05:38:43 PM »
It'd be almost on par with Clockman.
12169
« on: October 10, 2014, 05:37:45 PM »
Source?
12170
« on: October 10, 2014, 05:33:34 PM »
And that makes their point of view any more valid? That's like saying it's okay that the WBC gay bashes because ignorance is a common human trait.
We're talking about the consequence of a view, not the validity of it. You can call Jihadists ignorant for believing in paradise, but it wouldn't end all suicide bombings.
12171
« on: October 10, 2014, 05:26:09 PM »
They shouldn't worry about things they don't understand.
How practical. Please, impart more of your considerable understanding of human behaviour.
12172
« on: October 10, 2014, 04:58:50 PM »
He deserved it.
12173
« on: October 10, 2014, 04:43:30 PM »
Ted Bundy.
12174
« on: October 10, 2014, 04:18:52 PM »
Jesus.Fighters from the Islamic State have proudly posted photos of a child who they claim is the youngest person to die while fighting on their side.
The 10-year-old boy is named by the Islamists as Abu Ubaidah. A Twitter account run by Isil sympathisers said on October 9 that he was killed, alongside his father, by an American air strike two weeks ago.
US aircraft have been carrying out air strikes across Iraq and northern Syria, and the account did not say where he was killed.
But the disturbing series of photos posted by the Isil account show a smiling boy wearing a woollen hat and combat fatigues, posing frequently with guns.
In one image the machine gun is almost bigger than he is – standing in the hallway of a house, he beams to the camera as he strikes a pose with the gun. b-b-b-but they aren't real muslims
12175
« on: October 10, 2014, 03:36:08 PM »
I'm inclined to believe that it isn't.
I'm doing something right then.
12176
« on: October 10, 2014, 03:01:46 PM »
Yeah, the 30's were awesome
You shouldn't disparage the Chancellor!
12177
« on: October 10, 2014, 02:48:59 PM »
And American black people had to sit in the back of the bus. Definitely a great time to be alive.
Hey, it's not my fault they're black.
12178
« on: October 10, 2014, 02:45:21 PM »
 Where nobody was a wimp and workers didn't need health and safety regulations to get the job done.
12179
« on: October 10, 2014, 01:35:26 PM »
I subscribe to the idea that every living thing on the planet is directly responsible for every action that their body and mind makes. What the hell are you talking about? You do realise responsibility confers an obligation or duty, to which you can be held to account on occasions of failure? How on Earth do you propose every living thing is held to account? Like I said: utterly vacuous. If you think you're the king of denmark and bash someone's skull in because you're the king then you're responsible for the actions you take in that mindset. I don't give a flying frack about what voice is telling you to do it, that voice is still a part of you and you should be responsible for keeping it in line. I don't know what to tell you; you're expecting people to be responsible for something they, by definition, simply cannot be responsible for. No, it's their mind and actions that do it, and whatever personality that takes over during that time is going to come out again, so why let the person off because one part of their mind has a different thought process? it's still the same fracking mind and body doing it.
You seem to be misunderstanding me. I'm not disputing that some force other than the mind of the individual is the proximate cause of such crimes, I'm saying that the mind of the individual is determined by things which that individual cannot possibly have any control over. The notion of duty becomes meaningless when you understand that, and it's clear that efforts of "justice" must be made social instead of atomistic. If you kill a psychopath because he's too dangerous to be released, you're not holding him morally responsible for his actions - it isn't punishment. It's a preventative measure for the safety of the society in which he has committed crimes.
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« on: October 10, 2014, 01:19:55 PM »
It's because they ARE responsible. So delusional people are responsible? People with serious emotional deficits are responsible? What notion of responsibility do you subscribe to, exactly? because it seems completely vacuous. there is no magical force that made these people kill. it was their own mind and their own actions that murdered people. Except their propensity for serial murder is not determined by them in the slightest. Saying it was "their own mind and their own actions" is completely inconsequential when their mind is pre-determined in extremely important ways.
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