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Serious / Re: No, atheists aren't being oppressed
« on: October 13, 2014, 12:09:38 PM »
Until the NC constitution no longer says I cannot hold public office, yes, we are oppressed.

So they only want to elect upstanding citizens and not edgy teenagers?
You know that's a silly thing to say.

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Serious / Re: No, atheists aren't being oppressed
« on: October 13, 2014, 12:08:09 PM »
Until the NC constitution no longer says I cannot hold public office, yes, we are oppressed.
I'll concede specifically political oppression, there. Only in the places where that law still holds.

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Serious / Re: Epistemic knowledge on God and human conscious
« on: October 13, 2014, 12:05:48 PM »
Is this legit, or bait? I'll respond if you're sincere, but it's hard to tell with you.
It's Dustin.

Sincerity shouldn't have any bearing on your judgement. . .

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The Flood / Re: An autistic guy at my school made this song
« on: October 13, 2014, 12:03:22 PM »

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Serious / Re: Epistemic knowledge on God and human conscious
« on: October 13, 2014, 12:01:37 PM »
I actually thought El Bustin' would be decent enough to at least try to come up with some answers.

*sigh*

Just lock this.

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Serious / Re: Epistemic knowledge on God and human conscious
« on: October 13, 2014, 11:58:15 AM »
Unfortunately however, you are an atheist, so you cannot see God's reason while under the manipulation of the Devil.
What about the horribly immoral things committed by believers?

What about the atheists who are exceedingly moral?

Why wouldn't my "immorality" be put down to something like a genetic influence or neurological abnormality?

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Serious / Re: Epistemic knowledge on God and human conscious
« on: October 13, 2014, 11:55:01 AM »
God grants us free will to do what we want.
Free will doesn't exist in any metaphysically meaningful way.

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While He has the power to grant all our wishes, He chooses not to.
So the 7.6 million children who die each year, presumably with largely religious parents aren't worthy of God's devices and yet somebody in America who claims to be witness to a miracle is?

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Instead He guides us towards the right path, so that we may enter Heaven after we die.
Not well enough. The Bible explicitly states that a majority of people will be going to Hell.

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However there is also a duality effect at play. The Devil is also guiding us, just as God does; albeit towards the wrong path.
How does the Devil get the occasional upper-hand over an omnipotent God?

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where Satan has control over us.
Isn't Satan imprisoned in Hell?

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Atheists, by biblical definition, are manipulated by Satan. A Christian may communicate a logical fallacy to an atheist, but they are unable to recognize it as illogical. This is because their minds are manipulated and they are unable to break free.
Thanks for re-asserting my belief that you aren't serious.


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Serious / Re: Marriage
« on: October 13, 2014, 11:51:05 AM »
I don't know nor really care.

I have no intention to get married unless my potential serious partner wants to.

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Serious / Re: No, atheists aren't being oppressed
« on: October 13, 2014, 11:50:14 AM »
being kicked out of the house and disowned if they are not religious
That's not oppression. Just shitty parenting.

I'm not denying the sheer horror of being disowned for not believing in God - or being sent to a camp to be "cured" of homosexuality, or whatever - I'm merely saying to call it oppression is a gross misuse of the word and completely fails to capture the scale of the problem.

When atheists are rounded up into camps, forced to wear insignia or are killed in the streets by roving gangs of The Police of Vice and Virtue then you can claim oppression. It works the other way with the religious as well.

It's just plain, horrible bigotry and the sooner we stop mis-characterising social phenomena as if they were monolithic and co-ordinated forces the sooner we can realise it isn't a fight for anybody's freedom.

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The Flood / Re: Which nameplate should I use?
« on: October 13, 2014, 11:43:53 AM »
You're a dirty commie again?
Only aesthetically.


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Serious / No, atheists aren't being oppressed
« on: October 13, 2014, 11:43:18 AM »
Neither are religious people.

Both sides can be dumb. Both sides can be hateful. Both sides can be bigoted.

Neither side is oppressed in any meaningful sense of the word. Theists or atheists who feel "oppressed" - even at a relatively minor level - seriously need to find a sense of proportion. It's understandable why both feel this way, however. Atheism is a growing force in society, and theists, being part of the status quo, feel understandably threatened by this changing force. Unfortunately, the reaction by theists makes atheists feel threatened and encourages a sort of group psychology.

It's essentially turning atheism into an ideology or - I hesitantly say - a dogma, when really atheism is a position completely lacking content. It's a repudiation of something, not an affirmation. Nonetheless, oppression is only really meaningful when it's institutionalised. To think atheists or theists are being oppressed in the modern Western world is a grossly offensive use of the word.

Just because somebody's a fuc­king dick to you, it doesn't mean you are being oppressed. Just because somebody will fire you because of it, it doesn't mean you are being oppressed. Just because your group can't reliably get into office, it doesn't mean you are being oppressed.

/rant

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I feel I should make a thread about this.

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Serious / Re: Be honest now
« on: October 13, 2014, 11:35:37 AM »
So much this. Atheists seem to have some sort of deficit when it comes to self understanding. The Dunning Kruger Effect applies so well to how atheists think they're geniuses when they're truly just naive teenagers.
I simply can't believe you think a god exists.

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Well, fuc­k me.
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A cloud of methane gas about the size of Delaware was detected over the Four Corners area of the American southwest years ago. The readings were so unusually high that NASA scientists dismissed them. A new study confirms the methane hotspot is real.

“We didn’t focus on it because we weren’t sure if it was a true signal or an instrument error,” said Christian Frankenberg, a research scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratories in Pasadena, California, in an article on NASA’s news website.

Methane gas is the most potent of the so-called “greenhouse gases” that trap the Earth’s heat and contribute to global climate change. Carbon dioxide, another greenhouse gas, is far more plentiful in the atmosphere, but methane is about 80 percent more efficient at trapping heat than carbon dioxide, according to an article on The Atlantic’s CityLab website.

An article on the Christian Science Monitor website says that the 2,500-square mile methane cloud over the region where Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Utah meet traps more heat in a year than all the annual carbon dioxide emissions of Sweden.

The change of heart by NASA scientists is described in a new study published Friday in the journal Geophysical Research Letters which took another look at the earlier data, and confirmed the existence of North America’s largest methane “hotspot.”

The source of the methane is believed to be extensive coal-mining activity in the San Juan Basin, according to Eric Kort, a professor of Atmospheric, Oceanic and Space Sciences at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor and lead author of the study. He calls the Basin “the most active coalbed methane production area in the country.”

The study shows that there were 0.59 million metric tons of methane released every year during the period 2003-2009, 3.5 times more than earlier estimates.

There is currently a sharp increase in hydraulic fracturing – commonly called fracking – in the region, but because the cloud predates the fracking activity, Kort and Frankenberg say the earlier coal-mining activity is most likely to blame.

“The results are indicative that emissions from established fossil fuel harvesting techniques are greater than inventoried,” Kort said. “There’s been so much attention on high-volume hydraulic fracturing, but we need to consider the industry as a whole.”

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The Flood / Which nameplate should I use?
« on: October 13, 2014, 10:12:59 AM »






I can't choose!

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The Flood / An autistic guy at my school made this song
« on: October 13, 2014, 10:00:23 AM »

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Serious / Re: Acceptance of evolution
« on: October 13, 2014, 09:58:10 AM »
Evolution is an observation.

Natural selection is the theory.

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Serious / Re: Be honest now
« on: October 13, 2014, 09:54:50 AM »
You can't tell me you've never moments that made you think that something, maybe not a god, but something supernatural is out there. Do you guys know what I'm talking about?
No.

It's like Francis Collins dropping to his knees and becoming a Christian because he saw a waterfall frozen in three streams.

Just stupidity; you can appreciate the numinous without being epistemically cryptic about it too.

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Serious / Re: What Pisses Me Off About Ebola, by: Stefan Molyneux
« on: October 13, 2014, 09:50:26 AM »
God, I hate Molyneux.

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Serious / Re: Thoughts about abortion?
« on: October 13, 2014, 09:49:55 AM »
Morally? Pro-life.
Legislatively? Pro-choice.

Illegalising abortion creates more problems that just aren't worth it.

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Serious / Re: Ask a Mormon anything!
« on: October 13, 2014, 09:45:37 AM »
It seems to me that Mormonism is objectively more unbelievable than mainstream Christianity.

Why on Earth would you believe the words of a fraudster when he claims to have unearthed golden tablets?

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Meta I swear

You're like 500 years behind on everything
w0t

All I'm doing is asserting an argument. I'm not revealing it as revelation >.>

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TBF, he is taking Philosophy now, right? He'd be learning the history and thoughts of philosophers in the past, and wouldn't be towards modern philosophy until the end of the semester.
We don't study this stuff at all.

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"why the frack are you doing this?" = "You have offended my honor!"

Kay.
Both are pretty ridiculous.

Why on earth would you question my desire to discuss something on a forum?

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The Flood / I can't stop sharpening my knife
« on: October 12, 2014, 04:53:57 PM »
I'm fuc­king coming for you, Sprungli.

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The Flood / Re: Cheat, make this a new rule
« on: October 12, 2014, 04:34:10 PM »
lol frack off farage

I've been rumbled.

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Serious / Re: So you know Ferguson?
« on: October 12, 2014, 04:23:23 PM »
Suck my dick
But then you'd go to hell.

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The Flood / Re: Muslims = The middle eastern equivalent of Russians
« on: October 12, 2014, 04:16:13 PM »
I have no desire to.

They're essentially the "Red under the bed" here in the U.K.

Nice, alt, El Bustin'.


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The Flood / Re: Cheat, make this a new rule
« on: October 12, 2014, 04:14:43 PM »
No thanks. Our conversation topics would be even more limited in there.
*air horns*

Ein Board.
Ein Thread.
Ein Topic.

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The Flood / Cheat, make this a new rule
« on: October 12, 2014, 03:57:47 PM »
how in the nig do do have over 3000 posts?
Because he is the Serious forum.
Yeah, if you want to post a thred in Serious, you have to PM Meta first.

Byrne's got his head on straight.

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