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Serious / Re: The British people can be astoundingly stupid
« on: October 27, 2014, 09:20:31 AM »
Who controls their pay rise then?
An independent committee apparently full of fucking lunatics.

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Why do you say that? I'd imagine they'd throw a party and slash paychecks in half if they could.
It's far easier to fire people and them employ somebody willing to work for half the price. The end result is pretty much identical, but the distinction is in the fact that firms will always prefer to fire people (provided they have good hiring prospects) than slashing their wages, because the price of labour is incredibly sticky. It also depends on the nature of the business two. If the success of the business relies on good infrastructure and human capital, I can't see the desire to slash wages being their in the first place, provided the employees are earning above minimum wage.

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No, I'm just assuming that you're not going to pay people who are higher up the same as someone who is lower than them.
There's a threshold where, if the minimum wage is raised, other wages will have to be raised in proportion so they are about as much above minimum wage as they were before. It depends on the size of the company though; for large companies, you'd have a lot of employees who were above the threshold and wouldn't be affected by a minimum wage rise, so not everybody's pay packet would need to increase.

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Eliminating minimum wage decreases everyone's wages though,
Not really. The current U.S. minimum wage is probably close to where the market would set it, at the moment.

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at least in the sense that if you raise minimum wage you have to raise everyone else's wage to keep a hierarchal order of one's wage according to their position in the company.
I disagree. Do you have any data for that?

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Poor people live paycheck to paycheck, so you can safely assume that their money goes directly back into the economy. If they have less money, then the businesses take a hit because they're not selling as much.
Well, there you're assuming the abolition of the minimum wage would lead to a drop in wages, which isn't as likely as people suffering lay-offs.

But yes, if you reduce wages enough across the board then it should lead to a shortfall in aggregate demand.

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I think I got confused by your use of the term "public spending". I thought you were talking about the government's fiscal policy.

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So are you going to answer the question?
I'm waiting for you to explain how the abolition of the minimum wage would lead to a drop in government spending. I want to hear your reasoning first.

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The Flood / Re: Therapist thread, let it all out
« on: October 27, 2014, 06:05:32 AM »
i liek this grrl but im not sure she lieks me bacck

wat do

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Serious / Re: I'm not sure what it's called... anti-matter theory?
« on: October 27, 2014, 05:47:24 AM »
to a NEET
But Challenger is older than both of us and moved to Europe. . .

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The Flood / Re: What should I be for Halloween?
« on: October 27, 2014, 05:44:44 AM »
Just be yourself. You'll terrify the whole town.

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The Flood / Re: Should I reveal Kiyo's secret? [REVEALED (on page 2)]
« on: October 27, 2014, 05:38:34 AM »
I don't even know what's going on.

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Serious / Re: I'm not sure what it's called... anti-matter theory?
« on: October 27, 2014, 05:18:35 AM »
Here's a stupid side question I have because I'm really uneducated on physics, if the fundamental forces are a constant, active application of force, doesn't that mean they're supplied by an unlimited amount of energy, seeing as you need energy to create force?
Energy is constant, but can be transformed. I don't see how you're making the leap that things with gravitational fields need an unlimited amount of energy. It seems to me to be a closed system, regardless. There needn't be a constant "stream" of energy because nothing is lost in the exertion.

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Serious / Re: Atheist logical fallacy: assuming the default reality
« on: October 27, 2014, 05:14:00 AM »
What would you call someone if they didn't believe in God and were 100% positive that he wasn't real?
A fucking retard.

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Serious / Re: The British people can be astoundingly stupid
« on: October 27, 2014, 05:11:08 AM »
Explain why the MP pay rise and women in politics ones are dumd if you would <.<
MPs don't control their pay rise and we've had a woman prime minister, as well as a number of women MPs.

Women can clearly make it if they want to, and it should be down to their efforts. I actually find it overtly paternalistic to suggest we need to encourage more women to go into politics.

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Serious / Re: The British people can be astoundingly stupid
« on: October 26, 2014, 06:00:22 PM »
What separates you from everyone else?
This isn't a matter of opposite opinions, it's a matter of being wrong or asking stupid questions. The answers to all of these questions are simple to the point of being intellectually deadening, or easily solved with a Google search. There are other, more intellectually invasive and diffuse questions in which I disagreed with the premise, yet respected their merits enough not to list them.

I'd go through how each of them is idiotic, but unless you actually want my opinions I won't waste the time.

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The Flood / Re: Why do I even bother trying?
« on: October 26, 2014, 05:41:25 PM »
Do I seriously need to unleash the gorilla again?

Deci, just mute them and be done with it.
This thread is Haram.

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I feel myself on the side of the protesters.

The anarchist lurks inside me somewhere, still.

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Serious / The British people can be astoundingly stupid
« on: October 26, 2014, 05:34:00 PM »
These are some of the questions being posed to Nick Clegg the next time the BBC3 programme Free Speech airs. Some of them are okay, but some of them simply belie the exceeding ignorance of our population to basic politics/economics. Here are a few choice cuts:

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Fuck me.

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The Flood / Re: Why do I even bother trying?
« on: October 26, 2014, 05:09:40 PM »
lol

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The Flood / Re: Post edgy/cringy music ITT
« on: October 26, 2014, 04:54:13 PM »
YouTube

This.

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Serious / Re: Reasons for feminism
« on: October 26, 2014, 04:36:09 PM »
The wage gap is due to the choices women make, not discrimination.

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The Flood / Re: I was born in a tube...
« on: October 26, 2014, 04:30:54 PM »
That was 100% worth it.

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The Flood / Re: A man offers you 100 dollars...
« on: October 26, 2014, 04:05:19 PM »
Yes. If I wouldn't be caught.

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Serious / Re: What does being in the military mean to you?
« on: October 26, 2014, 04:02:28 PM »
So much edge in here
For once I agree with PSU.

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The Flood / Re: you will never be as cool as lemy the lizard
« on: October 26, 2014, 04:01:29 PM »
This really did make me laugh.

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Serious / Re: What does being in the military mean to you?
« on: October 26, 2014, 04:00:16 PM »
But our meddling only created additional enemies, not to mention we helped arm them. If we never became involved they'd just be killing themselves. They wouldn't be a threat to us. We are the reason they want us dead now.
I don't disagree. We are certainly part of the reason they're as substantial as they are at the moment, but we aren't the reason they hate us. Also, don't underestimate the funding provided by various wealthy Middle Eastern and Arabian countries to various militant groups.

However, trying to take the high-ground and playing the blame game isn't going to fix the issue.

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Serious / Re: What does being in the military mean to you?
« on: October 26, 2014, 03:56:26 PM »
The delusions would be your own. We helped create the fundamentalists and target us. That's exactly why we should only fight defensive wars and that's exactly why they are the only ones that are justified.
I suppose the U.S. created the Muslims Barbary pirates who kidnapped American sailors in the early 1800s.

You can draw a straight line from the behaviour of these people to their doctrine. Their fascistic, dogmatic and delusional beliefs are to blame for their genocidal beliefs - not because we weren't nice enough to them.

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The Flood / Re: Why do you guys care so much about Jay?
« on: October 26, 2014, 03:18:41 PM »
Deci seems to have an obsession with Jay and Harlow.
And Felicia.

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Old article from NPR.

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In 2000, health care experts for the World Health Organization tried to do a statistical ranking of the world's health care systems. They studied 191 countries and ranked them on things like the number of years people lived in good health and whether everyone had access to good health care. France came in first. The United States ranked 37th.

Some researchers, however, said that study was flawed, arguing that there might be things other than a country's health care system that determined factors like longevity. So this year, two researchers at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine measured something called the "amenable mortality." Basically, it's a measure of deaths that could have been prevented with good health care. The researchers looked at health care in 19 industrialized nations. Again, France came in first. The United States was last.

French Lessons

Now some American experts say there's a lot Americans can learn from the French.

For starters, the French system is not what most Americans imagine, says historian Paul Dutton at Northern Arizona University, author of Differential Diagnoses: A Comparative History of Health Care Problems and Solutions in the United States and France.

"Americans assume that if it's in Europe, which France is, that it's socialized medicine," he says. "The French don't consider their system socialized. In fact, they detest socialized medicine. For the French, that's the British, that's the Canadians. It's not the French system."

France, like the United States, relies on both private insurance and government insurance. Also, just like in America, people generally get their insurance through their employer.

In France, everyone has health care. However, unlike in Britain and Canada, there are no waiting lists to get elective surgery or see a specialist, Dutton says.

He says the French want pretty much the same thing as Americans: choice and more choice.

Universal Coverage, Not At Expense Of Choice

Dutton says these shared values come out of a shared history. Both countries are products of Enlightenment-era revolutions.

"The French hold individual liberty and social equality very dear ... 'liberty, equality, and fraternity' — of course the slogan of their revolution," he says. "And in this country, of course, we have similar ideals: individual liberty, social equality — equal chances for everyone."

But the French have done a better job of protecting those values in health care, Dutton says.

Americans often assume that when people get universal coverage, they give up their choice in doctors, hospitals and care. That's not the case in France, Dutton says. The system is set up both to ensure that patients have lots of choice in picking doctors and specialists and to ensure that doctors are not constrained in making medical decisions.

In France, the national insurance program is funded mostly by payroll and income taxes. Those payments go to several quasi-public insurance funds that then negotiate with medical unions to set doctors' fees. (Doctors can choose to work outside this system, and a growing minority now charge what patients are willing to pay out of pocket.) The government regulates most hospital fees. This system works collectively to keep costs down.

When someone goes to see a doctor, the national insurance program pays 70 percent of the bill. Most of the other 30 percent gets picked up by supplemental private insurance, which almost everyone has. It's affordable, and much of it gets paid for by a person's employer.

"There are no uninsured in France," says Victor Rodwin, a professor of health policy at New York University, who is affiliated with the International Longevity Center. "That's completely unheard of. There is no case of anybody going broke over their health costs. In fact, the system is so designed that for the 3 or 4 or 5 percent of the patients who are the very sickest, those patients are exempt from their co-payments to begin with. There are no deductibles."

Treating The Sickest

In France, the sicker you are, the more coverage you get. For people with one of 30 long-term and expensive illnesses — such as diabetes, mental illness and cancer — the government picks up 100 percent of their health care costs, including surgeries, therapies and drugs.

France has made an unusual guarantee that every cancer patient can get any drug, including the most expensive and even experimental ones that are still being tested, says Dr. Fabian Calvo, deputy director of France's National Cancer Institute. This kind of access is why the French — unlike Americans — say they are highly satisfied with their health care system, he says.

"It's a feeling of safety — that if you have a big problem, you could have access to the good therapy," Calvo says.

When compared with people in other countries, the French live longer and healthier lives. Rodwin says that's because good care starts at birth. There are months of paid job leave for mothers who work. New mothers get a child allowance. There are neighborhood health clinics for new mothers and their babies, home visits from nurses and subsidized day care.

The Cost Of Care

It's expensive to provide this kind of health care and social support. France's health care system is one of the most expensive in the world.

But it is not as expensive as the U.S. system, which is the world's most costly. The United States spends about twice as much as France on health care. In 2005, U.S. spending came to $6,400 per person. In France, it was $3,300.

To fund universal health care in France, workers are required to pay about 21 percent of their income into the national health care system. Employers pick up a little more than half of that. (French employers say these high taxes constrain their ability to hire more people.)

Americans don't pay as much in taxes. Nonetheless, they end up paying more for health care when one adds in the costs of buying insurance and the higher out-of-pocket expenses for medicine, doctors and hospitals.

France, like all countries, faces rising costs for health care. In a country that's so generous, it's even harder to get those expenses under control.

Last year, the national health system ran nearly $9 billion in debt. Although it is a smaller deficit than in previous years, it forced the government of President Nicolas Sarkozy to start charging patients more for some drugs, ambulance costs and other services. Debates over cost-cutting have become an expected part of the national dialogue on health care.

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The Flood / Re: What are your fetishes?
« on: October 26, 2014, 03:07:03 PM »
Immobility
Is that because they're the only ones who can't effectively say no to you?

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The Flood / Re: Why do you guys care so much about Jay?
« on: October 26, 2014, 02:59:39 PM »
I mean, look at some of the things she has said over the years. Some of it is just irrationally stupid. I have trouble believing it's all 100% serious.
I still don't care. Looking at her Tumblr and Twitter, if that were the case, it's just an incredibly sad project of hers that evokes even more pity than if she were serious.

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