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The Flood / I've done it, I've found the funniest vine
« on: October 02, 2014, 11:27:50 AM »YouTube
I'm gonna die.
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The Flood / I've done it, I've found the funniest vine« on: October 02, 2014, 11:27:50 AM »YouTube I'm gonna die. 1682
Serious / Guy at my college was busted for selling drugs« on: October 01, 2014, 01:30:38 PM »
Some teachers took him out of a lesson and searched him, apparently finding ecstasy which is Class A here. Supplying Class As can land you up to life in prison, an unlimited fine or both.
The police raided his house, found drugs in his room and he, apparently, answered "No comment" to everything while being questioned. No idea what'll happen to him, but I guess we'll find out. Damn drug laws, man. 1683
Serious / Do you prefer Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens« on: October 01, 2014, 01:19:53 PM »I just found that picture, and it's actually quite reasonable in its perception. OT: I massively preferred Hitchens. 1684
Serious / Paedophile dis-embowelled in prison, and people are frigging happy about it« on: October 01, 2014, 12:22:14 PM »
fracking hell
Quote It was a horrific killing that shocked even the most hardened prison officers. A nice selection from my news feed: - Fab - Should have cut his nob off n made him eat it - serves him right! We're surrounded by barbarians. 1685
The Flood / FUCK YOU CHEAT« on: October 01, 2014, 11:22:51 AM »
Why can't I swear anymore.
Fucking cunting fuckers. 1687
Serious / The consumption of child pornography shouldn't result in a prison sentence« on: September 30, 2014, 12:20:11 PM »
From the Atlantic.
Quote It was shortly before 3:00 a.m. on May 30, 2012 when I turned off my computer for the last time. I slid my recliner over three feet and tucked myself into my bed, for another sleepless session of self-loathing and self-pity. Later that morning, I would not be at my friends’ home as I had planned to help them celebrate their 25th wedding anniversary. Instead, I would find myself sitting on the hard wooden bench of a police holding cell. Paedophilia, like drugs, is a medical issue. It isn't a criminal issue. I firmly believe that the demonisation of paedophiles is one of the last obstacles to a truly liberal society. 1688
Serious / "Don't judge a religion by its fundamentalists"« on: September 29, 2014, 02:07:13 PM »
Well, all right. We often hear it said that ISIS aren't "true" Muslims, or that the Westboro Baptist Church aren't "true" Christians, and that we shouldn't judge a religion by its fundamentalists. I take issue with this, for a number of reasons, but even if I accept such a proposition it doesn't harm my position.
I needn't take the fundamentalists to prove a point, I can judge a religion by its scripture and its mainstream authorities. For instance, taking Islam, the Ayatollah Khomeini issued the fatwa against Salman Rushdie which lasted for ten years, the hadith calls for the murder of apostates and there was widespread dissatisfaction - to put it mildly - with the expressions of a Danish cartoonist. The book of Deuteronomy calls for your wife's hand to be cut off if, should she try to deliver you from the wrath of a countryman, she accidentally touches another man's genitals. In Numbers, Moses ordered his generals - after the slaughter of the Midianites - to kill all the young boys and older women who have lain with men and keep the "women children" for their own pleasure. Kings recounts the story of when God sent two bears to maul 42 children for mocking a bald prophet and in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah an innkeeper gives up his virgin daughter to an irate crowd demanding to be able to meet the angels. The Catholic Church has long proselytised in Africa and condemned the use of contraception and set its face against the only and pretty much definitive cure for poverty - the empowerment of women. It has professed and recanted ideas such as limbo, causing untold misery for Catholic parents who lost their children, and beatified disgustingly immoral people such as the likes of Mother Theresa. Not to mention, it signed the Reichskonkordat with Nazi Germany and didn't officially forgive the Jews of "Deicide" until 1965. The Church of England, often seen as the meekest and mildest of the bunch, isn't free from fault, either. Graham Dow, the former Bishop of Carlisle, said in 2007 that the storms and floods in the north of the country were judgement for the country's lax attitude towards gays and the Archbishop of Canterbury in 1958 said a nuclear holocaust wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing as it would simply wipe people out and usher them from this world to the next. Taking all of this into account, I don't think it'd be appropriate to try and judge the merits of a religion without considering the "moderating" influences. 1689
Serious / Why does a truth hold more value than a non-truth?« on: September 29, 2014, 12:35:13 PM »
Why is the actual more important, why does it command more immediacy, over the non-actual? Why is the real more valuable than the wishful? Why is the matter-of-fact considered to be of a higher nature than what we should like to be true.
Assuming no atrocious or magnificent outcomes from choosing one over the other, what gives a truth more value than a falsehood? 1690
Serious / I highly doubt Hitler wanted a "scientific" society« on: September 29, 2014, 12:14:53 PM »1691
Serious / You CAN prove a negative« on: September 29, 2014, 02:12:39 AM »
Seen this lovely bit of sophistry - "You can't prove a negative" - floating around for quite some time. Years, in fact, I've seen it said and I've even seen it said by Verbatim himself at one point, although I have no idea if he's renounced it. Indeed, I used to believe it too.
Here's just one article on the matter, from Psychology Today. Quote One reason that some people suppose science and reason are incapable of establishing beyond reasonable doubt that certain supernatural claims—for example, that fairies or angels or spirit beings exist—are false, is that they assume you can't prove a negative. Indeed this is widely supposed to be some sort of "law of logic." 1692
The Flood / Today I learned I've been pronouncing "forbade" wrong« on: September 28, 2014, 06:28:36 PM »
Turns out it's "for-bad", not "for-bade".
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The Flood / Favourite (alcoholic) drink?« on: September 28, 2014, 03:34:11 PM »
Johnnie Walker Black Label with Perrier, lime and sometimes ice cubes.
Shame it's so expensive though. I can do just water or ice cubes if I don't have an perrier though. Having a job will certainly help. 1694
Serious / Favourite quotes from scientists/philosophers/intellectuals?« on: September 28, 2014, 02:59:02 PM »
Bertrand Russell:
Quote I believe in using words, not fists. I believe in my outrage knowing people are living in boxes on the street. I believe in honesty. I believe in a good time. I believe in good food. I believe in sex. Quote The secret to happiness is to face the fact that the world is horrible. Quote Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate. Quote The megalomaniac differs from the narcissist by the fact that he wishes to be powerful rather than charming, and seeks to be feared rather than loved. To this type belong many lunatics and most of the great men of history. Christopher Hitchens: Quote The totalitarian, to me, is the enemy - the one that's absolute, the one that wants control over the inside of your head, not just your actions and your taxes. Quote Knowing that we are primates, I think, is a fascinating discovery, and a very interesting and rather cheering one. Quote It's impossible, I think, however much I'd become disillusioned politically or evolve into a post-political person, I don't think I'd ever change my view that socialism is the best political moment humans have ever come up with. Quote I'm not particularly a feminist, but if you get women off the animal cycle of reproduction and give them some say in how many children they'll have, immediately the floor will rise. H.L. Mencken: Quote I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant. Quote Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. Quote Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. I'll leave it here since I don't want the OP to be dominated by a giant fuck-off list. 1695
Serious / Is fundamentalism growing?« on: September 28, 2014, 01:37:34 PM »
My religious studies teacher was talking about fundamentalism as a growing force in the religious and social worlds due to the fact that we've gone so far away from the "original". She says that the English Christians and the Muslims all over the world are becoming more fundamentalist in their views and more traditionalist.
She used one example of three girls who came up to her in one lesson asking for a textbook because they didn't want to work on a computer after seeing screens all their lives (the girls were born within the 2000s) and religious pupils in her lessons (again born within the 2000s) being more literalist in their views. Personally, I think she doesn't understand what she's talking about. I can't bring myself to claim that fundamentalism is growing. Can you? 1696
Serious / Bertrand Russell's "Message to the Future"« on: September 28, 2014, 10:22:57 AM »YouTube Good ol' Berty. 1697
The Flood / Well, I just had the best night of my life« on: September 27, 2014, 04:16:27 PM »
Me, my mates Luke and Robbie and Robbie's girlfriend just went to see the movie Before I Go To Sleep. The movie itself was decent, but the best part of the night was after it. We were joking about this scene in the movie, and Robbie made a funny joke and we fell into about ten minutes of utter madness.
It was just self-perpetuating laughter. We were all crying and Robbie's girlfriend pissed herself a bit. Eventually, Robbie had to pull over so he didn't crash and we spent a good five minutes just at the side of the road dying. So, how was your night? 1698
The Flood / This fucking forum is out to get me« on: September 26, 2014, 04:41:19 PM »Fuck this. 1699
Serious / A challenge for the religious/conservative users here« on: September 26, 2014, 02:28:05 PM »
This is probably more properly aimed at people who don't support secularism and think (some) Western nations should be Christian (or otherwise religious), or humanism*. It just so coincides that such people are likely to be religious or of a very conservative persuasion (please don't think I'm trying to single out people for mockery).
Name me a society that has based its values on the likes of Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, David Hume, Bertrand Russell, et cetera, that is even vaguely comparable to the shortcomings and atrocities of religious or worshipful states. And, name me a moral act which can be committed by a believer which can't be committed by a non-believer (prayer doesn't count). * Spoiler Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over established doctrine or faith (fideism). 1700
The Flood / >tfw your mother is a fucking idiot« on: September 26, 2014, 02:15:26 PM »
My mother's gone on a spate of buying me books recently. It's been quite cool, to be honest, the first one she got me - of her own accord - was The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt and she recently got me - from my prompt - Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman.
All great up until that point, I thoroughly enjoyed reading both of them. Don't get me wrong, I'm not bagging on her for making the effort, I'm calling her out for not being able to follow instructions. I hate having used books, which is why I clearly instructed her to get Free to Choose from Amazon, which offers not only reliably good-quality books but also the latest edition. What does she do? Get's a horrible looking used book which isn't the latest edition. . . From fucking EBay. 1701
The Flood / "Abusing" the report function« on: September 26, 2014, 02:05:56 PM »
Does it actually cause a real hindrance to the mods?
If not, it shouldn't be a bannable offence. 1702
Serious / The more you learn about politics, the more difficult it gets to pick a side« on: September 26, 2014, 12:40:51 PM »
Does anyone else agree with that sentiment? It's obvious that ideologues who strongly subscribe to an ideology are usually more intelligent than your guy of the street, but if you pursue it further than self-justification and learn about differing approaches or the nature of politics itself, then it becomes harder and harder to "pick a side".
In a sense, it leaves you in a state of paralysis and perpetual self-doubt. 1703
Serious / So, how is extrajudicial murder not unconstitutional?« on: September 25, 2014, 05:14:07 PM »Quote On September 30, 2011 a drone strike in Yemen killed American citizens Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan.[64] Both individuals resided in Yemen at the time of their deaths. The executive order approving Al-Awlaki's death was issued by the Obama administration in 2010 and challenged by the American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Constitutional Rights in that year. Amendment VI:- In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confonted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favour, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defence. 1704
Serious / Yanks, help me with my politics homework!« on: September 25, 2014, 02:17:02 PM »
I need to write an essay on: "To what extent is the constitutional system of checks and balances an obstacle to effective government?"
I just finished about 10 pages of notes on the reign of Nicholas II, so I can't be fucked. I have: No they aren't an obstacle; - They stop the government growing too large, all tyrannies throughout history have seen the erosion of checks and balances. - They allow the government to punish bad conduct in any other branch of government. Yes they are an obstacle: - The polarisation of American politics means the checks and balances system can be exploited for partisan gain. - They can be cumbersome and result in gridlock. If anyone wants to offer a revision or call me out on any of those, feel free. Some examples for each would be swell too. 1705
Serious / Technological socialism; if there are no jobs, what will humans do?« on: September 24, 2014, 12:44:37 PM »
I'm on a technology kick at the moment, just roll with me.
So, let's assume we've reached a point where most jobs are automated and the civil unrest of mass unemployment has been solved by some sort of governmental implementation. The only people we really see having "jobs" are the likes of politicians, police officers, and a few engineers and scientists, although in ever-dwindling numbers. With this in mind, everybody's end goal of employment - consumption - is effectively fulfilled despite not having a job. A lot of people would probably go "great", but the more pragmatic and conservative will ask "what about this. . .?" Obviously, employment provides a sense of fulfillment and a profitable way of passing the time. A few people on here would relish the chance to read more and have more time for general self-reflection, however, among most of society it could promote mental illness, boredom, suicide and lawlessness. Basically, how would we fill our time when we don't need to work? How would people keep socially engaged? Would the government need to encourage this? How would they encourage it? 1706
Serious / Filthy bourgeoisie capitaist converts to the glory of Marx« on: September 24, 2014, 06:25:19 AM »
From Tim Worstall, a fellow at the Adam Smith Institute, felt appropriate with the current talk of automation, aliens and AI going on at the minute.
Quote Paul Krugman is here actually addressing a slightly different question: have we reached a slow down in technological innovation? But in the answer to this question is the answer to what’s going to happen to us once the robots can do everything better than we can, what will happen when the robots take all our jobs. 1707
Serious / 40 minute documentary on aliens, by Stephen Hawking« on: September 23, 2014, 05:22:51 PM »YouTube Given the recent topics of conversation, it seems appropriate. Really good watch. 1708
The Flood / Oh God, somebody help« on: September 23, 2014, 03:47:00 PM »
The taskbar has disappeared from the bottom of my screen.
Ctrl, alt, del also does nothing. 1709
The Flood / Blow gently onto your screen in 3, 2, 1. . .« on: September 23, 2014, 03:29:32 PM »YouTube All of my kek. 1710
Serious / A question for Verbatim« on: September 23, 2014, 02:04:14 PM »
Assume we live in some sort of techno-socialist utopia. Bio-ethics is ridden with abolitionism and utilitarianism; suffering simply doesn't exist anymore.
However, despite all of this amazing technological progress, suffering is offered as a choice to people. 100% of the population cause themselves to suffer in varying degrees at various point in their life. If this were true - take it to be - would procreation still be immoral, and would suffering be still inherently undesirable in your mind? |