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Serious / Re: If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 08, 2014, 12:01:53 AM »
Yes, most cultures and groups have their own beliefs on deities and/or afterlife, but I'm talking specifically about the Christian God.
If we're talking specifically about the Abrahamic God, then yes I agree.

If we're assuming the Bible was never written, a very similar God would've likely developed in its stead. If the Bible were erased from history now, no other similar God would likely be invented.

>implying God was invented
So why is your God the "real" one, and not the literally hundreds of other gods that people have believed in throughout history?
Because unlike Religions, I don't just worship my god, I fellowship with Him.
You can't have fellowship if there is only 1 person.

"Taste and see that the Lord is good."
Until you've done that, you'll never know what is true.
None of that really supports your argument.
Yes it does.
Worshipping an image doesn't make it a God.

But if that image responds.....

I don't worship an image. I worship a God who has made Himself known in my life. You haven't experienced the same, and so you don't believe the same as me. That's fine.

But if you had, you wouldn't have a doubt in your mind that there is a God. He's made it blatantly obvious for me many times.

He has done what all other Gods have failed to do: respond
..and your proof of communicating with God is...?

How do you know it's the Christian God? How do you know it isn't Ra the Sun God? Or Odin? Did they tell you who they were?

You miss the point when it comes to God's existence: every time you ask for proof.
There isn't proof you will accept. Because proving God destroys faith, so realistically God wouldn't allow Himself to be proven to the world.

Now, since I have fellowshipped with God for around 6 years, I've got a really good look into His character.
The personality I've paid witness to; both physically and spiritually, lined up with the Characteristics of the Christian God.

For one: if you worship a non-existent God, it isn't going to grace you with it's prescence.
I have only worshipped Jesus, and He has never failed to respond.


When His Spirit came to me in my times of suffering, or simply a time of worship, I didn't feel shame.
I didn't feel disgusting or sinful or wrong, because when God Himself is in the room with you:
you, for a moment, completely forget about yourself.
So, in your mind, anyone who God doesn't make his presence known to is screwed for all eternity, right?

In short: Yes.

John 6:44
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day

But here is where things get tricky: why does God draw some and not others?
Doesn't EVERY PERSON deserve a chance?

Well if God is all-knowing, He will know what happens if He draws a particular person.
If God see that drawing that person to Him, will only bring harm to others, then is God being unfair by not drawing that person?

OR, perhaps if He draws not Person A, but Person B.
Because drawing Person A will yield no results,
while drawing Person B will get Person C saved.
What you're essentially saying is that god isn't revealing himself to me, and in essence saving me from hell, because if I were to not go to hell, bad things would happen?


Your god sounds like a loser who can't do his fucking job. He's fucking god, why should things be so convoluted?

Oh, right, because we're making up ideas about god using rules pulled from our sphincters.

If you want to spit nonsense go ahead, that clearly isn't what I was saying.

22172
Serious / Re: If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 07, 2014, 11:51:19 PM »
Yes, most cultures and groups have their own beliefs on deities and/or afterlife, but I'm talking specifically about the Christian God.
If we're talking specifically about the Abrahamic God, then yes I agree.

If we're assuming the Bible was never written, a very similar God would've likely developed in its stead. If the Bible were erased from history now, no other similar God would likely be invented.

>implying God was invented
So why is your God the "real" one, and not the literally hundreds of other gods that people have believed in throughout history?
Because unlike Religions, I don't just worship my god, I fellowship with Him.
You can't have fellowship if there is only 1 person.

"Taste and see that the Lord is good."
Until you've done that, you'll never know what is true.
None of that really supports your argument.
Yes it does.
Worshipping an image doesn't make it a God.

But if that image responds.....

I don't worship an image. I worship a God who has made Himself known in my life. You haven't experienced the same, and so you don't believe the same as me. That's fine.

But if you had, you wouldn't have a doubt in your mind that there is a God. He's made it blatantly obvious for me many times.

He has done what all other Gods have failed to do: respond
..and your proof of communicating with God is...?

How do you know it's the Christian God? How do you know it isn't Ra the Sun God? Or Odin? Did they tell you who they were?

You miss the point when it comes to God's existence: every time you ask for proof.
There isn't proof you will accept. Because proving God destroys faith, so realistically God wouldn't allow Himself to be proven to the world.

Now, since I have fellowshipped with God for around 6 years, I've got a really good look into His character.
The personality I've paid witness to; both physically and spiritually, lined up with the Characteristics of the Christian God.

For one: if you worship a non-existent God, it isn't going to grace you with it's prescence.
I have only worshipped Jesus, and He has never failed to respond.


When His Spirit came to me in my times of suffering, or simply a time of worship, I didn't feel shame.
I didn't feel disgusting or sinful or wrong, because when God Himself is in the room with you:
you, for a moment, completely forget about yourself.
So, in your mind, anyone who God doesn't make his presence known to is screwed for all eternity, right?

In short: Yes.

John 6:44
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day

But here is where things get tricky: why does God draw some and not others?
Doesn't EVERY PERSON deserve a chance?

Well if God is all-knowing, He will know what happens if He draws a particular person.
If God see that drawing that person to Him, will only bring harm to others, then is God being unfair by not drawing that person?

OR, perhaps if He draws not Person A, but Person B.
Because drawing Person A will yield no results,
while drawing Person B will get Person C saved.

22174
Serious / Re: Who was the best and worst President in US history?
« on: September 07, 2014, 11:41:14 PM »
FDR was pretty good.
I almost made my worst a four way tie because of him. He is terrible in the fact that he increased the size of the government way too much. Not to mention he made one of the most broken welfare systems in the world.
You might be forgetting the completely fucking retarded fiscal/monetary policies.

Yep, because leadership abilities don't matter either -_-
Spoiler
The Great Depression, and World War II would like a word with you.

22175
Serious / Re: If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 07, 2014, 11:32:28 PM »
Because proving God destroys faith
So then nobody can claim they know God exists. Because to know something such as "(x) exists" means to have some sort of proof or evidence.

DANG you love to nitpick. did you read that whole post? Just curious.

Oh, they can claim all they want.
But if God is proven to exist, and it is completely and absolutely true, would you call believing in God "having faith" then? No. It would take ZERO faith to believe in a completely proven God.

There have to be questions, otherwise there is no faith.

We cannot prove God in that absolute way in nature. God is proven through your experiences.
Your circumstances.

Because that is what matters: not whether the sky is bluer today than it was yesterday, but what happens to you.
If you throw out circumstancial evidence, you will never find God. Because THAT is where He moves.

Notice how all my evidence of God, in 6 years, have been personal encounters He has had with either me or someone else?

God wants you to love Him for who He is, not serve Him because you know He is real.
He desires a personal relationship with you, if you are personal with someone they will affect your circumstances.


Spoiler
haven't we had this exact same conversation before? I believe you've asked these same questions before.

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The Flood / Re: Post some excellent memes
« on: September 07, 2014, 11:14:46 PM »

22177
Serious / Re: If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 07, 2014, 11:11:34 PM »
Yes, most cultures and groups have their own beliefs on deities and/or afterlife, but I'm talking specifically about the Christian God.
If we're talking specifically about the Abrahamic God, then yes I agree.

If we're assuming the Bible was never written, a very similar God would've likely developed in its stead. If the Bible were erased from history now, no other similar God would likely be invented.

>implying God was invented
So why is your God the "real" one, and not the literally hundreds of other gods that people have believed in throughout history?
Because unlike Religions, I don't just worship my god, I fellowship with Him.
You can't have fellowship if there is only 1 person.

"Taste and see that the Lord is good."
Until you've done that, you'll never know what is true.
None of that really supports your argument.
Yes it does.
Worshipping an image doesn't make it a God.

But if that image responds.....

I don't worship an image. I worship a God who has made Himself known in my life. You haven't experienced the same, and so you don't believe the same as me. That's fine.

But if you had, you wouldn't have a doubt in your mind that there is a God. He's made it blatantly obvious for me many times.

He has done what all other Gods have failed to do: respond
..and your proof of communicating with God is...?

How do you know it's the Christian God? How do you know it isn't Ra the Sun God? Or Odin? Did they tell you who they were?

You miss the point when it comes to God's existence: every time you ask for proof.
There isn't proof you will accept. Because proving God destroys faith, so realistically God wouldn't allow Himself to be proven to the world.

Now, since I have fellowshipped with God for around 6 years, I've got a really good look into His character.
The personality I've paid witness to; both physically and spiritually, lined up with the Characteristics of the Christian God.

For one: if you worship a non-existent God, it isn't going to grace you with it's prescence.
I have only worshipped Jesus, and He has never failed to respond.


When His Spirit came to me in my times of suffering, or simply a time of worship, I didn't feel shame.
I didn't feel disgusting or sinful or wrong, because when God Himself is in the room with you:
you, for a moment, completely forget about yourself.




22178
Serious / Re: If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 07, 2014, 10:55:12 PM »
Yes, most cultures and groups have their own beliefs on deities and/or afterlife, but I'm talking specifically about the Christian God.
If we're talking specifically about the Abrahamic God, then yes I agree.

If we're assuming the Bible was never written, a very similar God would've likely developed in its stead. If the Bible were erased from history now, no other similar God would likely be invented.

>implying God was invented
So why is your God the "real" one, and not the literally hundreds of other gods that people have believed in throughout history?
Because unlike Religions, I don't just worship my god, I fellowship with Him.
You can't have fellowship if there is only 1 person.

"Taste and see that the Lord is good."
Until you've done that, you'll never know what is true.
None of that really supports your argument.
Yes it does.
Worshipping an image doesn't make it a God.

But if that image responds.....

I don't worship an image. I worship a God who has made Himself known in my life. You haven't experienced the same, and so you don't believe the same as me. That's fine.

But if you had, you wouldn't have a doubt in your mind that there is a God. He's made it blatantly obvious for me many times.

He has done what all other Gods have failed to do: respond

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Serious / Re: If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 07, 2014, 10:48:28 PM »
Yes, most cultures and groups have their own beliefs on deities and/or afterlife, but I'm talking specifically about the Christian God.
If we're talking specifically about the Abrahamic God, then yes I agree.

If we're assuming the Bible was never written, a very similar God would've likely developed in its stead. If the Bible were erased from history now, no other similar God would likely be invented.

>implying God was invented
So why is your God the "real" one, and not the literally hundreds of other gods that people have believed in throughout history?
Because unlike Religions, I don't just worship my god, I fellowship with Him.
You can't have fellowship if there is only 1 person.

"Taste and see that the Lord is good."
Until you've done that, you'll never know what is true.

22180
Serious / Re: If the Earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old...
« on: September 07, 2014, 10:36:37 PM »
Yes, most cultures and groups have their own beliefs on deities and/or afterlife, but I'm talking specifically about the Christian God.
If we're talking specifically about the Abrahamic God, then yes I agree.

If we're assuming the Bible was never written, a very similar God would've likely developed in its stead. If the Bible were erased from history now, no other similar God would likely be invented.

>implying God was invented

22181
Gaming / Re: November 9th MCC Game Night Circle Jerk?
« on: September 07, 2014, 02:10:05 PM »
I'll probably do Halo 2 Anniversary's Campaign at first,
but if not I'm going straight into multiplayer :)

22182
The Flood / Re: The most weirdest thing you said to a girl.
« on: September 07, 2014, 02:05:54 PM »
hmmm..........
Perhaps it wasn't WHAT I said, but the way the conversation went about.

I would walk up, ask like 2 questions, then be like "SEE YA!!!"
Spoiler
LOL

22183
The Flood / Re: Post The Most Retarded Thing You Have Ever Done
« on: September 07, 2014, 01:44:31 PM »
Going onto Panama City Beach during Spring Break....
I live there, but I'm not on the beach.

Holy........cow the crap I saw in one day.
I went because my friend from the Naval Academy wanted to go,
but dang we both regretted it.

You wonder what society is like without rules?
That was it.

Cops were too far from the beach to even do anything -_-
Were some miscreants smoking that demon drug marihuana?

there were some hookahs set up in the sand,
and a few blunts out in the open BUT the problems were:

1) firecrackers were thrown in crowds
2) saw a dude try to fight 3 girls, then HE got jumped by the entire freaking crowd
3) I........got twerked on trying to get through a moshpit -_________-
4) as we were in the parking lot leaving, everyone started running(probably another fight)
5) police chopper was circling the club we parked by
6) everyone was drunk


6 isn't really a problem, but yeah, the rest of that seems really annoying.

6) everyone was drunk(you should see how the entire beach looks, it's disgusting)

22184
Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 07, 2014, 01:26:25 PM »
No, we have a similar method. Pay "debit", then the cashier hands you a keypad and you enter your pin.

I worked at McDonalds' drive thru, and one time I hit the wrong button, so I had to pull this keypad out the window.

That wasn't very efficient.
LOL because that one time at McDonald's defines the entire debit card system, right?

And yeah, I only use my debit card. Fuck credit cards.
1) there are times when a keypad is simply an inconvenience

 2) Debit Cards are also the same, you sign and all that

3) Either way you look at it, your paying for something. One is where you stick a card in a machine. Another is where you hand a card to someone who sticks it in a machine.

Not really that different

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Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 07, 2014, 12:57:13 PM »
In America, you pay with a care they run it as "credit". You don't give out your pin or anything.

Credit requires you to sign saying you approve of the charge. Then they have a tip line, then a total line.

Welcome to America.
There we go then.

I don't tip because I don't carry change, and because we have a more streamlined way of paying for shit over here.
Opinion
No, not really.

Putting your card into a machine and just punching in a number is by definition more streamlined than your method.
No, we have a similar method. Pay "debit", then the cashier hands you a keypad and you enter your pin.

I worked at McDonalds' drive thru, and one time I hit the wrong button, so I had to pull this keypad out the window.

That wasn't very efficient.

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Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 07, 2014, 12:49:42 PM »
In America, you pay with a care they run it as "credit". You don't give out your pin or anything.

Credit requires you to sign saying you approve of the charge. Then they have a tip line, then a total line.

Welcome to America.
There we go then.

I don't tip because I don't carry change, and because we have a more streamlined way of paying for shit over here.
Opinion

22187
Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 07, 2014, 12:47:03 PM »
That doesn't surprise me.
I haven't really had the opportunity to be honest. I don't carry any change with me.
Well for one, leaving nothing but spare change is cheap.

2) you pay with cash you can say "keep the change" or get change and leave a tip.

3) use a card, you can write how much you want to tip.

There are too many ways to tip, to have a good reason to not.
Except I've never been to a place where you leave the bill on the table or pay the person who served you. I go to places where there is a counter at which you pay - like a bar.

Also, write down on what? What backwards-ass method do you guys use to pay by card? They tell you the charge, you put your card in and enter your PIN. No writing necessary.

Also, I'm not going to leave anything but change. They can go fuck themselves if they think I'm leaving a banknote.
In America, you pay with a care they run it as "credit". You don't give out your pin or anything.

Credit requires you to sign saying you approve of the charge. Then they have a tip line, then a total line.

Welcome to America.

22188
Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 07, 2014, 11:57:08 AM »
That doesn't surprise me.
I haven't really had the opportunity to be honest. I don't carry any change with me.
Well for one, leaving nothing but spare change is cheap.

2) you pay with cash you can say "keep the change" or get change and leave a tip.

3) use a card, you can write how much you want to tip.

There are too many ways to tip, to have a good reason to not.

22189
Gaming / Re: Halo 3 Game Night Sept. 6
« on: September 07, 2014, 11:53:47 AM »
The games were SO one-sided originally haha! Me and Cheat were basically destroying.
Then that cursed game on Standoff.......
*looks at Sandtrap

1 flag on high ground was good, got several good sniper kills,
but I watched the film and EVERY time I wen for the flag,
everyone in the base randomly looked in the flag's direction -_-
Spoiler
and the time where me and Cheat both went for it, the ENTIRE TEAM SPAWNED 0_0
Spoiler
so I need to work on my timing now......

P.S: I don't have Reach, but it was fun while it lasted :)

22190
Gaming / Re: Halo 3 Game Night Sept. 6
« on: September 07, 2014, 11:49:21 AM »
I hereby declare myself "That one asshole in the Banshee."
AND the best dang connection -_____-

22191
Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 07, 2014, 11:23:57 AM »
Tipping really isn't an issue you can look at financially/economically.

It's a social/moral convention. It's not immoral, per se, for you to not tip, but it annoys the rest of the tribe when you violate a social convention - especially if it indirectly harms another member of the tribe.

You didn't really answer the question though.
No, I don't tip.
That doesn't surprise me.

22192
The Flood / Re: A scientific illustration.
« on: September 07, 2014, 01:21:57 AM »
I want to give that thing a hug........without killing it of course :)

22193
The Flood / Re: Post The Most Retarded Thing You Have Ever Done
« on: September 07, 2014, 01:14:33 AM »
Going onto Panama City Beach during Spring Break....
I live there, but I'm not on the beach.

Holy........cow the crap I saw in one day.
I went because my friend from the Naval Academy wanted to go,
but dang we both regretted it.

You wonder what society is like without rules?
That was it.

Cops were too far from the beach to even do anything -_-
Were some miscreants smoking that demon drug marihuana?

there were some hookahs set up in the sand,
and a few blunts out in the open BUT the problems were:

1) firecrackers were thrown in crowds
2) saw a dude try to fight 3 girls, then HE got jumped by the entire freaking crowd
3) I........got twerked on trying to get through a moshpit -_________-
4) as we were in the parking lot leaving, everyone started running(probably another fight)
5) police chopper was circling the club we parked by
6) everyone was drunk


22194
The Flood / Re: Post The Most Retarded Thing You Have Ever Done
« on: September 07, 2014, 01:05:10 AM »
Going onto Panama City Beach during Spring Break....
I live there, but I'm not on the beach.

Holy........cow the crap I saw in one day.
I went because my friend from the Naval Academy wanted to go,
but dang we both regretted it.

You wonder what society is like without rules?
That was it.

Cops were too far from the beach to even do anything -_-

22195
Serious / Re: Do you tip servers?
« on: September 07, 2014, 12:59:09 AM »
Tipping really isn't an issue you can look at financially/economically.

It's a social/moral convention. It's not immoral, per se, for you to not tip, but it annoys the rest of the tribe when you violate a social convention - especially if it indirectly harms another member of the tribe.

You didn't really answer the question though.

22196
The Flood / Re: Everything's back to normal
« on: September 06, 2014, 11:44:47 PM »
WOOH!
WELCOME BACK!!!!!!

22197
The Flood / Re: Did you get beat up on freshman friday?
« on: September 06, 2014, 10:17:03 PM »
Never got in a fight in High School.
#aboveitall
It wasn't exactly a fight.
WHERE DID THEY TOUCH YOU????
I'LL KILL THEM!

22198
The Flood / Re: The last food/drink you ate is the only thing you can eat.
« on: September 06, 2014, 09:32:30 PM »
A big mac meal.

Caramel frappe.

Fuck yeah.

22199
The Flood / Re: The last food/drink you ate is the only thing you can eat.
« on: September 06, 2014, 09:14:56 PM »
Vanilla Ice cream with chocolate dressing and water.
GAHHHHHHHHH YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

22200
Gaming / Re: Who is going to Destiny's Midnight Release?
« on: September 06, 2014, 09:14:19 PM »
nah.
Like Flee said, the community kind of drew me away. I'm not even sure how much I care about my preorder anymore.
This exactly. I only pre-ordered mine yesterday because I knew I'd end up playing it with my girlfriend eventually, but I honestly have close to zero interest in playing the game.
If Bungie is anything to go by, the veterans are all shying away from anything Destiny related that's more than just playing the game.

I've never been to a midnight release for a game before, only movies.
SO, figured I'd hit this one up. Also got a Halo Tourney going on :)

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