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Serious / Re: Biblical contradictions
« on: November 23, 2014, 01:11:02 PM »
These are called contradictions. Well if they are referring to a number, those got lost through all the translations.
I looked through a few contradictions in Genesis and the Gospels listed. "The contradictory Creation Accounts" for example. In Genesis 1, it lists the creatures of the Earth as being created first. Yet in chapter 2, it lists Adam as being created before the creatures.
My Bible titles Chapter 1 as "The Creation" where Chapter is called "The Story of Adam".
And if you take that into account, you'll notice that Chapter 2 lists Man being formed, next God says "it is not good that man be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him". Next it lists the creation of the creatures, then the Bible says "But for Adam no suitable helper was found." However the verse mentioning the formation of the creatures starts out as "Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field...." etc. This verse is past tense, indicating it already happened. What happens next in that verse, is Adam names all the creatures. THAT is the purpose of that verse, not listing the order of creation, but saying "you know how god formed the animals earlier? Well now Adam is going to name them."
Surely God didn't think an animal would make a suitable helper right? In Chapter 2, next we have the creation of Eve and it is in-depth.
Chapter 1 didn't even mention Adam or Eve by name, but simply said "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them."
Chapter 1 is less descriptive but mentions the same things in Chapter 2. Chapter 2 is more descriptive.
These are seen as contradictions, but they are simply a case of telling the same thing twice, but one is more specific.
As for the Gospels, the same can be said. Some are more specific than others. Also, these are 4 accounts of the same thing, from different peoples' perspectives. Mark may have missed half a story, where John had it all.
But there is no occurrence that I can see in some of the contradictions listed, where there is an actual contradiction of teaching at the same time. Laws have changed, teachings changed. For example: taking a verse from the end of the Old Testament where a Law was changed, and comparing it to the Old version of the law and saying "this is a contradiction" is unacceptable.
And finally, does the change of order in something really change the Gospel? Does it actually matter? If it were something huge like ”Christ rose from the dead/ Christ did not rise from the dead." then I would understand. But there is nothing even close to that found.
TL:DR
I'm not feeling well today and do not feel like debating over and over. Simply agree or disagree with what I've said(without actually replying), then move on. Thank you.
I looked through a few contradictions in Genesis and the Gospels listed. "The contradictory Creation Accounts" for example. In Genesis 1, it lists the creatures of the Earth as being created first. Yet in chapter 2, it lists Adam as being created before the creatures.
My Bible titles Chapter 1 as "The Creation" where Chapter is called "The Story of Adam".
And if you take that into account, you'll notice that Chapter 2 lists Man being formed, next God says "it is not good that man be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him". Next it lists the creation of the creatures, then the Bible says "But for Adam no suitable helper was found." However the verse mentioning the formation of the creatures starts out as "Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field...." etc. This verse is past tense, indicating it already happened. What happens next in that verse, is Adam names all the creatures. THAT is the purpose of that verse, not listing the order of creation, but saying "you know how god formed the animals earlier? Well now Adam is going to name them."
Surely God didn't think an animal would make a suitable helper right? In Chapter 2, next we have the creation of Eve and it is in-depth.
Chapter 1 didn't even mention Adam or Eve by name, but simply said "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them."
Chapter 1 is less descriptive but mentions the same things in Chapter 2. Chapter 2 is more descriptive.
These are seen as contradictions, but they are simply a case of telling the same thing twice, but one is more specific.
As for the Gospels, the same can be said. Some are more specific than others. Also, these are 4 accounts of the same thing, from different peoples' perspectives. Mark may have missed half a story, where John had it all.
But there is no occurrence that I can see in some of the contradictions listed, where there is an actual contradiction of teaching at the same time. Laws have changed, teachings changed. For example: taking a verse from the end of the Old Testament where a Law was changed, and comparing it to the Old version of the law and saying "this is a contradiction" is unacceptable.
And finally, does the change of order in something really change the Gospel? Does it actually matter? If it were something huge like ”Christ rose from the dead/ Christ did not rise from the dead." then I would understand. But there is nothing even close to that found.
TL:DR
I'm not feeling well today and do not feel like debating over and over. Simply agree or disagree with what I've said(without actually replying), then move on. Thank you.