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Serious / Russian Teenager Outed while seeking Asylum in US
« on: October 08, 2014, 10:00:47 AM »
Slow Clap, everyone

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A lawyer for a 17-year-old at the center of a confrontation between the U.S. and Russian governments said a U.S. official may have violated international law by telling the New York Times that the teenager is seeking asylum on the basis of his sexual orientation.

“We’re shocked that an American official would … violate international human rights law and out him as an asylum-seeker,” the lawyer, Susan Reed of the Michigan Immigrants Rights Center, told BuzzFeed News.

U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services had declined to comment on the case when Russian officials publicized the case last week. Immigration Services cited policy that prohibits government officials from discussing individual asylum cases. Details in this case are especially sensitive, Reed said, because it concerns a minor and because the case is ongoing.

An Obama administration spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Reed would not comment on the grounds for which the teen was seeking to stay in the United States or even if he was seeking asylum when she first spoke to press last week. The story made headlines when the Russian foreign ministry announced it was pulling out of a 21-year-old exchange program because the student had not returned to Russia when he was scheduled to. Russian officials told state-run media that the child had been “seduced” by a “pair of old homosexuals” while in the U.S., and had sought asylum because of his “non-traditional sexual orientation.”

On Saturday, the New York Times reported that the fact that the boy “chose not to return home and sought asylum on the basis of his sexual orientation” had been confirmed by an “American official, who was not authorized to comment on the case and so spoke on the condition of anonymity.”

Reed told BuzzFeed News on Wednesday “we don’t deny” the Times report. Now that he had been outed by the government official, Reed provided additional information about the case to refute Russian accounts of the incident.

She challenged the account put forward by Russia’s child rights ombudsman, Pavel Astakhov, who said last week: “A child who has a mother in Russia was illegally put up for adoption, and the boy was handed over to a homosexual American couple.” Subsequent reports said the child had been emancipated from his parents by U.S. courts.

Neither is true, Reed said.

“He is in federal custody, and was placed in a foster home because he is an unaccompanied minor asylum-seeker and that is standard,” she said. This is “a licensed foster home that is headed by two dads.”

Reed criticized the Russian reports for focusing on the sexual orientation of the adults involved; Russian officials had claimed to the New York Times that she and her co-counsel are “also of nontraditional sexual orientation.”

“In fact, I am very traditional,” she said. “Russia is trying to make this case about some person or persons in the U.S. who are gay. But this case is about a young man who is afraid to return to Russia because Russia persecutes people who are gay.”

She would not comment on Russian reports that the teen’s mother is seeking his return to Russia, but said that his parents “are under tremendous pressure. One should not accept the Russian government’s suggestions at face value.”

Aside from the stupidity of government officials, is it a worthy grounds for asylum?

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Picture Thread (Version 3.0)
« on: October 08, 2014, 09:55:02 AM »
Fair enough, hope you do well buddy

Thanks - and yeah, the beard's coming down this weekend.

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Picture Thread (Version 3.0)
« on: October 08, 2014, 09:53:38 AM »
I got bored procrastinating on a paper, so I took a selfie.

Mock me.

Spoiler

Come on Mike, you gotta shave

Midterm Week. You think I got time to shave?

If you have time to eat and sleep, you have time to shave mister

I'm kidding, by the way. How stressed are you

Not too stressed, to be honest. I have two midterms Friday, but they're both essays and the Professor's might just have us do them over our long weekend. Besides that, just typical papers and Hall Government shit.

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The Flood / Re: Does anyone have ideas for articles?
« on: October 08, 2014, 09:52:14 AM »
Working on some reviews for a couple TV shows and upcoming games.
Which ones?

TV Shows:

How to Get Away with Murder
Gotham (Whenever I get around to watching it)

Games:

MCC
Destiny Writeup in November - Two Months In
Maybe Assassin's Creed.

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Picture Thread (Version 3.0)
« on: October 08, 2014, 09:50:31 AM »
I got bored procrastinating on a paper, so I took a selfie.

Mock me.

Spoiler

Come on Mike, you gotta shave

Midterm Week. You think I got time to shave?


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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Picture Thread (Version 3.0)
« on: October 08, 2014, 09:48:51 AM »

I got bored procrastinating on a paper, so I took a selfie.

Mock me.

Spoiler
<3

Ayyyy how you doin'?

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The Flood / Re: Does anyone have ideas for articles?
« on: October 08, 2014, 08:25:43 AM »
Working on some reviews for a couple TV shows and upcoming games.

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Picture Thread (Version 3.0)
« on: October 08, 2014, 08:07:01 AM »
I got bored procrastinating on a paper, so I took a selfie.

Mock me.

Spoiler

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The Flood / Re: What's new flood?
« on: October 07, 2014, 11:10:23 PM »
What's up? How are you all doing? What's new?
Just got done installing this alerts mod, so that's pretty sweet.

What does it do
It tells you when someone quotes you by displaying a red square up there in the navigation bar.

It's pretty nifty.

Does it really

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Septagon / Re: The Future of Sep7agon.net
« on: October 07, 2014, 06:52:36 PM »

>this is the only way icy can make his degree feel relevant

Reported, muted, Seal Team Six inbound.

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The Flood / Re: Hey guys let's start random threads for no reason
« on: October 07, 2014, 05:36:29 PM »
It totally is.

Before you whine about how your thread got locked, read the rules:

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No Porn
None. Nada. Zilch. Don't post pictures or links. Talking about boobs is fine, but posting pictures of boobs is bad. We have to draw the line somewhere.

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The Flood / Re: Join the Camnator army!
« on: October 07, 2014, 05:32:19 PM »
Nope. We are not doing this again.

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Serious / Re: TSA Causes Ashes From Urn to Spill
« on: October 07, 2014, 05:27:41 PM »

All your "Cops" news threads would be merged into one giant thread, with a title of your choice. From then on in, any news you plan to post related to the subject of police would have to go in that thread.

I would need someone else to edit the titles? Or I could? If I can that sounds great.

I would merge the threads together, and make the title something like "Camnator's Police News". You can edit the title from there.

Can I kill the Didact without it? Then do it.

Enjoy

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Serious / Re: Camnator's Police News
« on: October 07, 2014, 05:26:47 PM »
From here on in, all of Camnator's police news shall be posted in this thread - any posted outside will be merged in.


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Serious / Re: TSA Causes Ashes From Urn to Spill
« on: October 07, 2014, 05:20:49 PM »

All your "Cops" news threads would be merged into one giant thread, with a title of your choice. From then on in, any news you plan to post related to the subject of police would have to go in that thread.

I would need someone else to edit the titles? Or I could? If I can that sounds great.

I would merge the threads together, and make the title something like "Camnator's Police News". You can edit the title from there.

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Serious / Re: TSA Causes Ashes From Urn to Spill
« on: October 07, 2014, 05:18:33 PM »
Perhaps a meta-thread would work well, and I don't mean the spam that was in the flood a little bit ago but a hub thread of sorts. Then you can post new articles in it without making too many OPs.

That would be good. Camnator, would you be fine with it? We can also edit the title to make it whatever you'd like it to be.

I wouldn't mind giving it a go, but I still know nothing about it.

All your "Cops" news threads would be merged into one giant thread, with a title of your choice. From then on in, any news you plan to post related to the subject of police would have to go in that thread.

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Serious / Re: TSA Causes Ashes From Urn to Spill
« on: October 07, 2014, 05:12:36 PM »
Perhaps a meta-thread would work well, and I don't mean the spam that was in the flood a little bit ago but a hub thread of sorts. Then you can post new articles in it without making too many OPs.

That would be good. Camnator, would you be fine with it? We can also edit the title to make it whatever you'd like it to be.

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The Flood / Re: Meta Day
« on: October 07, 2014, 04:51:35 PM »
I'd go with the first option. No set reason.

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BasedLove, enough.

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Septagon / Re: Is taking threads off topic against the rules?
« on: October 07, 2014, 04:35:46 PM »
The point is - spamming, either by spamming numerous threads or derailing a thread, is a problem that the mods cannot always see. Report the threads, and it will be taken care of.

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The Flood / Re: The Metalution is Over
« on: October 07, 2014, 04:30:10 PM »
Good riddance.
Bas7ard.

Your trial date for inciting a revolution is October 31st.
I could just pay ridiculous amounts of reparations and sign a godawful treaty, so that in about 15 years somebody far worse than me comes around and commits the greatest atrocity in history?

You're welcome to take that up with the Judge at your trial.

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Septagon / Re: Is taking threads off topic against the rules?
« on: October 07, 2014, 04:29:25 PM »
The fracking page is full of this Meta spam, which is ACTUAL SPAM.

The Meta threads were, for the most part, merged into one giant thread - a thread that was then derailed by the anime postings, which also qualifies as spam.

Problem is, it's a bit more difficult for us to split a thread, then merge threads together - especially when the postings continue so rapidly.

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The Flood / Re: The Metalution is Over
« on: October 07, 2014, 04:27:48 PM »
Good riddance.
Bas7ard.

Your trial date for inciting a revolution is October 31st.

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Septagon / Re: Is taking threads off topic against the rules?
« on: October 07, 2014, 04:26:45 PM »
Yes, a thread originally about spamming the entire Flood page is going off topic.

Genius.

It's not just the one thread - it's happened in numerous ones across many boards.

You're welcome to make one dedicated thread for your anime discussion as Yutaka did in the Anarchy forums, but you don't have free reign to derail threads with the content. It just creates a mess.

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The Flood / Re: The Metalution is Over
« on: October 07, 2014, 04:25:08 PM »
Good riddance.

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NOM? Never heard of it, but Norml is one of the best sources.

Factually incorrect.

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We've had this debate over your sources before.

But, I do still believe more research is necessary on the subject.
Norml is good.

About as good as going to NOM for reasons why gay marriage is bad for society.


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The Flood / Re: JOIN THE METALUTION! I await Cheat's correspondence.
« on: October 07, 2014, 04:06:28 PM »
Alright guys. Cut back on the anime spamming a bit.

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The Flood / Re: Birthday Thread? Birthday Thread!
« on: October 07, 2014, 03:48:55 PM »
This thread being stickied:


Was this really necessary?

It was commemorative.



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We've had this debate over your sources before.

But, I do still believe more research is necessary on the subject.

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