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News / Project Oversight: Destiny, Part 1
« on: October 19, 2014, 02:17:06 PM »
Destiny: What Went Wrong
Part 1


In development since the aftermath of their smash hit Halo 3, Bungie’s latest release, Destiny, has surprisingly fallen short of expectations for both industry reviewers and fans alike. Sales of the game have been tremendous; Destiny ranks in as one of the top selling games of 2014 and automatically ensures a continuation of the franchise under Activision’s publishing conglomerate. Yet, problems continue to arise as the company continues to face criticism over their handling of Destiny’s lackluster story, social features, Player vs. Environment, and whether or not Destiny actually lives up to the expectations that have escalated over the past four years. 

With a massive budget, nearly six years of development time, a staff of several hundred people, and record-breaking preorders across all four systems – everyone indicated that Destiny would be a smash. So, what caused the most anticipated game of 2014 to launch with so many problems, and what can Bungie do to repair their game, and earn the community's trust once again?



Arguably, the biggest let down with Destiny come with it’s main storyline, or lack of one. From their very first announcement in February 2013, Bungie has repeatedly fed us the tagline “Become Legend”, a vague open-ended term that is catchy, but does not deliver. As a whole, the story for Destiny falls flat. The story, which is choppy and lacks any form of depth in the actual game, does not make you feel like a legend. Very little of the actual story for Destiny is revealed in the game – In order to learn about it, one has to read Grimoire cards that are only accessible on Bungie’s website- requiring a person to stop playing the game to learn more about the game. The few characters who actually have a role in the game, including The Speaker, are hardly fleshed out in any degree of the term, with the most personal relationship in the game belonging to the Player, and "The Stranger" - yes. The character you develop a bond with is named The Stranger.

Questions that remain unanswered by the time the main story ends include what the Darkness is, why the Vex have been deemed the supreme evil in the game, who The Stranger is, who she was talking to, the story of The Awoken, on top of the fundamental question: Why should I care about what happens?

Because of the poor story and means of telling that story, many in the community are wondering what happened during Destiny’s development that caused such a potential hit to have such a short, uninteresting, and poor story.


Joseph Staten, one of Bungie’s lead writers and a decade long veteran of the country, left suddenly in August of 2013. There was no indication prior to his departure that Staten was unhappy with the company or any of the work being done; As of June, Staten was on stage on E3, energetically presenting the first glimpse of Destiny to the public, which included story details that showed a far more interesting and dynamic world than what we got last month. Following Staten’s departure, there was little mention of the story for Destiny whatsoever, aside from Bungie reiterating their catchphrase and promising fans more details soon.

One has to ask – was Staten’s departure motivated by Destiny’s direction? Did his departure affect Destiny? Bungie and Activision will likely never publicly comment on the matter, yet if a recent unconfirmed leak is true, it would seem that Staten’s departure sent Destiny’s development into a frenzy, with Bungie split on where to go with the story. This split continued into late 2013, requiring much of what we knew, including whole plots, factions, and potentially characters, to be scrapped as they moved into the final nine months of their development period. This does seem to be the most likely cause for Destiny’s poor performance in the story aspect, and casts a slight bit of doubt as to whether or not Bungie knows where this current story is aimed to go.




Aside from story, Bungie has taken hits over criticism on their handling of Destiny’s social aspect and the PvE (Player vs. Environment) portion of the game. Billed as a social shooter, Bungie has repeatedly stated their plan aims at Destiny to be played with friends and other players – while running a mission, you can come up on an area where there are other players roaming the environment. Yet, there is a minor problem with this – Unless they are in your fire team or private party, you cannot communicate with them whatsoever, aside from the generic options the game gives you – sitting, waving, pointing, and dancing. This lack of in game communications, which Bungie has stated comes from their attempts to keep the game friendly for all, creates a void, empty feeling in the world. Even the social hub, The Tower, lacks any voice communication, again mimicking that empty feeling while you roam the quiet halls. In their attempts to sterilize the world for everyone, Bungie forgets the fundamental basics of the world “social” – communication.

PvE in Destiny consists of two components – Raids, which require six players to journey through complex challenges and bosses, and Strikes, which put three players through a small mission leading to a boss. Currently, there is one raid accessible in the game and five strikes (Six if you have the Sony consoles). The problem with PvE in Destiny arises with the limited selection of options – you are simply replaying the same missions over and over again with little challenge, in search of specific types of armor to boost your level higher. Of course, the fundamental flaw is that this is all randomized. Fighting a level 25 boss has just as much a chance of giving you the item you need as a level 12 boss. This choice to randomize the potential for item drops making the post-game tedious and frustrating, hurting players who don’t have a ton of time to play the game for hours on end to grind for gear. PvE players also suffer when it comes to special events, such as the Iron Banner last weekend. In order to get some of the best items, it forces players to compete in PvP matches for Crucible Marks - meaning if you are set against this, you have no opportunity to fully enjoy an event.*

* More on PvP in Part 2



Project Oversight is an editorial look at some of the gaming industries biggest releases and their flaws, addressing the criticisms surrounding various problems in the game and/or series. Part 2 of Destiny, aimed at PvP, the Marty O'Donnell Controversy, and the Future of Destiny, will be available soon.

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Serious / Re: What do you think of the environmentalist movement?
« on: October 19, 2014, 10:13:18 AM »
As one of lecturers pointed out, they're protesting by waving plastic signs, a by-product of oil, while wearing nylon/polyester clothes (oil) and then going back to their coal-fire station-powered, centrally heated, well-lit homes to argue about the environment while eating food that may or may not have been grown intensively/ using fertilizers and pesticides. Hypocrisy and Irony at it's finest.

Unfortunately. that's the world we live in. Unless you want the people to be living outside, not wear clothes, and grow their own food - which, in this era, is nearly impossible.


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Serious / Re: Court keeps Texan voter ID law
« on: October 18, 2014, 07:40:17 PM »
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Texas' law sets out seven forms of approved ID — a list that includes concealed handgun licenses but not college student IDs

Genius move.

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The Flood / Re: Trust system
« on: October 18, 2014, 07:37:41 PM »
+1 for everyone in this thread.

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The Flood / Re: What song is your go to at the moment?
« on: October 18, 2014, 01:18:04 PM »
YouTube


Some good stuff.

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Gaming / Re: Halo 2 Anniversary Gravemind
« on: October 18, 2014, 12:59:48 PM »
So when does the rule 34 hit DeviantArt?

Give it a week.

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News / Re: Duck Dynasty Video Game - Brute Review
« on: October 18, 2014, 12:59:11 PM »
Great review as always.

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The Flood / Re: If Everyone On This Forum Took A Bong Hit
« on: October 18, 2014, 12:58:26 PM »
I'll pass.

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The Flood / Re: Mobile Device Poll
« on: October 18, 2014, 12:52:58 PM »
iPhone 5S, iOS 8
RC is hating on our swag.

Yeah, no. We aren't doing this here.

If you want to spam about phone preferences, make your own thread and not overrun this thread where Cheat needs actual responses.

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The Flood / Re: Can you guys help me reach the Mythic prefix?
« on: October 18, 2014, 12:37:32 PM »
Ask the magic conch.

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The Flood / Re: Mobile Device Poll
« on: October 18, 2014, 10:14:30 AM »
iPhone 5S, iOS 8

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The Flood / Re: How long until I completely absorb the Serious board?
« on: October 17, 2014, 03:25:15 PM »
I will fight you until the last moments to prevent this from happening.
<.<
>.>
Spoiler
Can't stop the Metalution.

We shall compete for the title in interpretive dance.

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Poor Slash.

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The Flood / Re: How long until I completely absorb the Serious board?
« on: October 17, 2014, 03:22:36 PM »
I will fight you until the last moments to prevent this from happening.

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The Flood / Re: Legend of Korra - Season 4
« on: October 17, 2014, 02:53:39 PM »
Kuvira does make a lot of sense.

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When the Stock Market did crash, the credit bubble popped, and it helped to intensify the immediate effects for citizens because none of them had the actual money to pay off their credit debts as the banks caved.

My argument here is that the banks' responsibility is minimal, because the Fed operated on a very tight monetary regime which allowed nominal GDP to fall dramatically. The banking crises of the Depression happened largely in the early '30s, as opposed to '29, as the banks couldn't deal with the lack of liquidity in the market.

Think of it as if the causation were reversed. The stock market crash died because the economy was suffering from a demand for money, and when the stock market did crash, it increased that demand and it just got worse and worse because the Fed didn't respond. Ben Bernanke former chairman of the Fed, has accepted this account - developed my Milton Friedman - to be factual.

I see what you mean.

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1920's credit crisis
Sorry, could you elaborate?

Staple of the American economy of the 1920's - a large chunk of people purchased a shit ton of stuff on credit, including stocks for the market, because everyone thought the period of prosperity for our economy would never end. When the Stock Market did crash, the credit bubble popped, and it helped to intensify the immediate effects for citizens because none of them had the actual money to pay off their credit debts as the banks caved.

It's not exactly identical to the problems that grew into the Great Recession, but the common factor is people biting off more then they can chew and buying extravagant things (In this case, large houses with huge mortgages) that they could never afford.

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Going to stick my neck out and disagree with Icy here.

The government was largely responsible for the Great Recession, although certain not the Congress. Tight money from the Federal Reserve caused, what would be, a minor debt issue into a fiasco through tight money and allowing nominal GDP to tank. It was essentially the same with the Great Depression; tight money causes economic contraction, which in turn reduces liquidity and creates debt crises and bank failures.

As for the supposed recklessness with banks and mortgages? That was probably due to government regulation encouraging banks to pour money into such assets, since mortgages were deemed relatively safe. It was, most likely, a case of ignorance over recklessness.

Yes, the Government does hold a responsibility. My post did not intend to make it seem as if the entire US (And other nation's) governments were not at fault, but there is more to the argument then Kinder ranting about Democrat's controlling Congress.

However, fault also comes with the banks and civilians who used the deregulations and ran with it - similar to the 1920's credit crisis that escalated the collapse for the Great Depression.

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>not understanding what generalizing is

I was showing how stupid it is to say Obama is the reason why the deficit has decreased by stating that Democrats were in control of Congress when the economy fell. There's more factors than a single person/group when it comes towards this

Now I just wait for your patheitc "hur demeg puntrol" response like the biased person you are

> Presents entire post with details and sources saying why you're wrong
> "It's just a generalization, Obama didn't do anything"

Kinder, if you'd like to debate, be my guest. But actually come here prepared because at this point, unless you have some sources to back up that Democrats didn't successfully lower the deficit, you're wrong in this argument. There is a extreme difference between one party controlling Congress and the economy going to shit after twenty+ years of problems, and one party controlling Congress and enacting policies to lower a deficit.

Have a good day.

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Higher taxes are bad,

Your expertise on the subject is....?


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especially since they were the ones who held Congress when the economy went to shit.

So, because the Democrats held Congress when the economy went to shit, it's their fault? You just confirmed your absolute lack of economics, and understanding that the Great Recession stems from problems dating back to the 1980's - Four Presidency's worth of snowballing into the economic collapse that Bush II only created worse.

Going to argue with me about that? Let's talk some facts before you, once again, backpedal.

The Housing Market:
  • Between 1997 and 2006, the price of the typical American house increased by 124%.Source
  • This housing bubble resulted in quite a few homeowners refinancing their homes at lower interest rates, or financing consumer spending by taking out second mortgages secured by the price appreciation.
  • Easy credit, and a belief that house prices would continue to appreciate, had encouraged many subprime borrowers to obtain adjustable-rate mortgages. These mortgages enticed borrowers with a below market interest rate for some predetermined period, followed by market interest rates for the remainder of the mortgage's term. Borrowers who could not make the higher payments once the initial grace period ended would try to refinance their mortgages. Refinancing became more difficult, once house prices began to decline in many parts of the USA. Borrowers who found themselves unable to escape higher monthly payments by refinancing began to default.
  • As of August 2008, 92% of all mortgages outstanding were either delinquent or in foreclosure.Source
  • According to the IMF: Household debt soared in the years leading up to the Great Recession. In advanced economies, during the five years preceding 2007, the ratio of household debt to income rose by an average of 39 percentage points, to 138 percent. In Denmark, Iceland, Ireland, the Netherlands, and Norway, debt peaked at more than 200 percent of household income.

Risk-Taking Behavior and Debt:

  • USA household debt as a percentage of annual disposable personal income was 127% at the end of 2007, versus 77% in 1990 Source
  • U.S. home mortgage debt relative to gross domestic product (GDP) increased from an average of 46% during the 1990s to 73% during 2008, reaching $10.5 trillion Source
  • In 1981, U.S. private debt was 123% of GDP; by the third quarter of 2008, it was 290% Source
  • In order to counter the Stock Market Crash of 2000 and the subsequent economic slowdown, the Federal Reserve eased credit availability and drove interest rates down to lows not seen in many decades. These low interest rates facilitated the growth of debt at all levels of the economy, chief among them private debt to purchase more expensive housing. High levels of debt have long been recognized as a causative factor for recessions.

Government Policies:
  • In 1992, the Democratic-controlled 102nd Congress under the George H. W. Bush administration weakened regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac with the goal of making available more money for the issuance of home loans.
  • In 1999, the Republican controlled 106th Congress U.S. Congress under the Clinton administration passed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed part of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933. This repeal has been criticized by some for having contributed to the proliferation of the complex and opaque financial instruments which are at the heart of the crisis.Source


By the time the effects actually hit us that we had fucked up the economy, Congress could do nothing to prevent it. We all fucked up. Congress, Democrats, Republicans, Citizens, Businesses, Economists. That is the cold hard fact. Spinning this around to solely blame the party in charge is a petty, uneducated move.

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That's just insult to injury when you ruin the economy and demand those same people to pay more to those who oversaw it



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Serious / Re: A story you won't hear from Sharpton and the race-baiters
« on: October 17, 2014, 01:37:23 PM »
Because this thread truly makes you an exemplary citizen who is above basic race biting.

Oh wait...


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Serious / Re: Your Thoughts on GamerGate?
« on: October 17, 2014, 01:20:53 PM »
The media keeps trying to sensationalize it and make it seem like we're in it to bully women and harass people, but the reality is all we want is journalistic integrity.

That's understandable, coming from a journalist major.

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In this thread:



So does that mean Democrats created the recession since they had majority hold of Congress?
No. The Federal Reserve created the Recession.
And the Republicans introduced a plan to cut the deficit last year

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/12/us-usa-fiscal-ryan-idUSBRE92B02E20130312


That's great, but it wasn't their plan that was used to cut the defecit:

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With its cuts to social programs including Medicaid, which provides healthcare for the poor and some people with disabilities, the measure will stand in stark contrast to a competing 2014 budget outline that Senate Democrats will unveil this week. That measure will rely partially on tax increases to get control of a massive government debt.

Their plan relies on cutting social programs like Medicaid - the Democrat's plan, the one currently in place and has been working, relies on higher taxes.


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The Flood / Re: Hey guys I have an idea
« on: October 17, 2014, 10:38:31 AM »
Put down the drugs Dustin.

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Picture Thread (Version 3.0)
« on: October 17, 2014, 09:16:50 AM »
I got bored procrastinating on a paper, so I took a selfie.

Mock me.

Spoiler
I like the pacman ghost for Halloween.

Thanks  8)

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News / Re: October 2014 Survey
« on: October 16, 2014, 09:36:52 PM »
Shit id love to be on a septagon podcast.

You'd be the Rush Limbaugh of The Flood.

Does that make me the Rachel Maddow?

I don't know as I'm not as familiar with your character as I am with PSU's

I'm the gay liberal of the site, nice to meet you.

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The Flood / Re: I Was Told I Am Needed
« on: October 16, 2014, 08:54:53 PM »

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The Flood / Re: I Was Told I Am Needed
« on: October 16, 2014, 08:51:33 PM »
Am I allowed to infect it?

No. Back to your main with you.

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