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Serious / Re: Still down/exhausted about the election?
« on: November 10, 2016, 01:57:47 PM »
While I agree with Luci that Republican control of the federal government hasn't resulted in the end of life, I would argue that moderate, establishment Republicans would go against some of Trump's harsher legislation agenda.

After this rise of populism, I imagine they're even more willing to do what it takes to keep their jobs.

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Serious / Re: Still down/exhausted about the election?
« on: November 10, 2016, 11:01:51 AM »
I get to lose my healthcare and federal rights but hey haha let's just laugh about it

Yeah sure, because that's so guaranteed

What are checks and balances?

Guaranteed? No

But Congressional leaders have already stated that the repeal of the ACA (And thus, at least for a time being, removing healthcare from millions until they come up with a remedy) is a priority within the first 100 days.

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Democrats are pretty much where the Republicans were in 2008 - no party leader, an aging Congressional delegation, and no Congressional majority. Problem is, Democrats are also decimated at the state level, which is a long term issue.

I imagine we'll see the party tilt further left, with the strong chance of a Warren/Sanders type of Democrat getting a role in the party leadership. After that, it's really just a slow slog of trying to find solid and viable candidates.

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Serious / Re: So I was wrong
« on: November 09, 2016, 08:35:27 PM »
Be honest- were you with CTR?

No judgement here.

Correct the Record?

No

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Serious / Re: Trump's plan for his first hundred days as president.
« on: November 09, 2016, 08:34:22 PM »
I'm particularly curious how people who got healthcare under the ACA, and who voted for Trump in swing states, feel about his repeal plan.

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Serious / Re: So I was wrong
« on: November 09, 2016, 07:57:48 PM »
Why do pollsters keep underestimating the level of white working-class disenchantment and anger with the system?

I'll go into this more when I get home (getting Chinese food ATM), but the big issue is that the media was expecting turn out levels at a 2008-2012 level.

What we got was turnout more in line with 2004, at least from a preliminary analysis.

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Serious / Re: So I was wrong
« on: November 09, 2016, 07:56:34 PM »
wait does this mean youll turn straight?

If getting fucked in my ass is straight, then yes

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Serious / Re: So I was wrong
« on: November 09, 2016, 07:55:14 PM »
why do i have this icon beside my name

Cause you suck dick

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Serious / Re: So I was wrong
« on: November 09, 2016, 07:54:49 PM »
You seem to have taken it better than I did tbh

Off site has been a bit more turbulent, in consoling my boyfriend and dealing with gloating family members.

But it is what it is, and now just have to make do with it for 4-8 years.

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Serious / Re: So I was wrong
« on: November 09, 2016, 07:11:38 PM »
Why were you right?

My sugar daddy told me I was

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Serious / AMA So I was wrong
« on: November 09, 2016, 07:01:38 PM »
Ask me why I was wrong.


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Serious / Re: Now for the $20,000,000 question:
« on: November 09, 2016, 07:01:13 PM »
Under-polling of working-class disaffected whites, shy Trump voters and an over-reliance of the Democrats on the Hispanic vote and states like Wisconsin.

This*

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Serious / Re: Which Political Party is Weakest?
« on: November 09, 2016, 06:24:40 PM »
Well, if there is any good news for Democrats, its that they have a solid chance to begin rebuilding their party at the state level in 2018.

After that, it's unclear.

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump (Official)
« on: November 09, 2016, 03:45:47 PM »


Democracy™

.06% of the population

The presidency is a elected via a republic. Congress is elected democratically, and the overwhelming democratic vote was for a Republican government for the next two years.

The Democratic bench is utterly demolished. It's no wonder that they collapsed.

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Serious / Re: Which Political Party is Weakest?
« on: November 09, 2016, 02:22:56 PM »
Now that we have the 2016 Elections behind us, have any opinions changed?
Dems got eviscerated obviously.

So we're pretty much flipped 2008-2016. Democrats are without a party leader or any government majority.

Where do they go in 2018 and 2020?

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Serious / Re: Which Political Party is Weakest?
« on: November 09, 2016, 02:11:08 PM »
Now that we have the 2016 Elections behind us, have any opinions changed?

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump (Official)
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:42:54 PM »
I personally look forward to Sarah Palin in the White House

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump (Official)
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:23:33 PM »
voting should be mandatory in a democracy.
Absolutely not. Too many low info voters is what gave us Trump vs. Clinton.

i dont see how it could get any worse than what we had now

David Duke could have been elected.

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump (Official)
« on: November 09, 2016, 12:56:25 PM »
Why is it okay when blacks, women, illegals, Latinos, LGBTQ, welfare recipients, unions, etc. get together and vote as a block to advance their interests, but when white people do it, it is a form of racism?

Who said it's racist?

People on my facebook feed.

Then go and ask them

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump (Official)
« on: November 09, 2016, 12:54:16 PM »
Why is it okay when blacks, women, illegals, Latinos, LGBTQ, welfare recipients, unions, etc. get together and vote as a block to advance their interests, but when white people do it, it is a form of racism?

Who said it's racist?

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump (Official)
« on: November 09, 2016, 12:34:09 PM »
Cut the shit, final time.

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump (Official)
« on: November 09, 2016, 11:53:54 AM »
Whelp. This is a new feeling

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump (Official)
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:43:33 AM »

The media can calm the fuck down now, it's finally over!

That won't happen

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump (Official)
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:39:04 AM »
Rumor is Clinton has conceded to Trump privately

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BREAKING:  SOURCE TELLS ME CLINTON HAS CONCEDED ON PHONE WITH TRUMP

All caps is still annoying.

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump (Official)
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:37:53 AM »
Congrats to President-Elect Trump

I'm off to bed now.

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:32:19 AM »


AP has called it

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:19:17 AM »
So, this presidential election business is all well and good, but what about all those other names on my ballot that google couldn't even recognize?

GOP controls House and Senate

I dunno what other names you have

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:14:16 AM »
Why are all these news stations so slow on updating the results?
Because there isn't any news to update on. Trump won Pennsylvania and Alaska, but the other states have yet to be called.
ABC is reporting 218 for Clinton, 245 for Trump.

Google reports 266 for Trump. Something's fucky.

If I had to guess, they've yet to call PA?


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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:12:12 AM »
Quote
BREAKING: John Podesta headed to Javitz center to tell Clinton supporters that the race is "too close to call" #ElectionNight #CBSElection

And from the NYT

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Here is John Podesta at the Javits Center.
He is telling Clinton supporters to head home and get sleep.
“We’ll have more to say tomorrow,” Podesta says.
“Your voices and your enthusiasm mean so much to her and to Tim and to all of us. We are so proud of you, and we are so proud of her,” Podesta says.
“She has done an amazing job, and she is not done yet,” Podesta says.

"Oops, all these red-leaning states just flipped blue!"

Most likely scenario is Clinton and her team are waiting for Trump to officially have 270 (late late tonight) and will deliver her concession in the morning.

Less likely but still possible is they will call for a recount in Florida and Pennsylvania

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Serious / Re: President Elect Donald J Trump
« on: November 09, 2016, 01:11:15 AM »
Why are all these news stations so slow on updating the results?

Because there isn't any news to update on. Trump won Pennsylvania and Alaska, but the other states have yet to be called.


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