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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Picture Thread (Version 3.0)
« on: December 20, 2014, 01:36:23 AM »
Most recent picture on my phone, was just about to head to my job interview.

I'm comin' for ya in a couple months.

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The Flood / Re: Yutaka.
« on: December 19, 2014, 11:50:49 PM »

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The Flood / Re: I'm almost Meethic
« on: December 19, 2014, 11:42:50 PM »
I will achieve Legendary before you get Mythic!

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Serious / Re: Take THAT California and New York
« on: December 19, 2014, 11:32:46 PM »
So I ask, why must we waste handicapping one right? If we're going to handicap the Second Amendment, then we should handicap ALL Amendments 

Again, we do - most rights have limitations on them.


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Oh look, it's the Republicans that scream about state's rights...fighting against state's rights...

gg
You mean how Democrats scream about government not getting involved in the bedroom, but will turn around and get involved in the doctor's office?

These states have very valid claims with supporting the Supremacy Clause at hand. If Colorado had legalized murder, would it still be wrong for Oklahoma to sue?

>Deflecting intensifies

Besides, this case could be a very huge step to looking at Federally legalizing marijuana if (and when, I polished my crystal ball) Colorado ends up winning.
Exactly how am I deflecting? You made a claim that I easily turned back around along with showing that this isn't about stepping on states rights, as the states don't have any authority above the Constitution
Where in the constitution is the government given the authority to regulate drugs and plants people possess and digest?
Supremacy Clause
That doesn't answer the question.  Where is congress granted the power to regulate or prohibit drugs.  Which enumerated power?
The Constitution doesn't exactly state drug laws, but it doesn't state many other things.

If it doesn't state it, the government shouldn't have a role in it.

We want a strict interpretation, after all.

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The amount of controversy this three minutes caused is too damn high.

There was actually controversy over it?

Yeah. I've seen quite a few people who aren't happy over it.

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The amount of controversy this three minutes caused is too damn high.

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Serious / Nebraska and Oklahoma suing Colorado over Marijuana Legalization
« on: December 19, 2014, 02:29:44 AM »
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The states of Nebraska and Oklahoma filed a federal lawsuit in the U.S. Supreme Court Thursday, claiming that Colorado's legalization of recreational marijuana is unconstitutional under federal law.

"Federal law undisputedly prohibits the production and sale of marijuana," Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning said Thursday in a statement. "Colorado has undermined the United States Constitution, and I hope the U.S. Supreme Court will uphold our constitutional principles."

But Colorado Attorney General John Suthers isn't backing down. In a statement, he said he intends to defend the state's marijuana laws.

“Because neighboring states have expressed concern about Colorado-grown marijuana coming into their states, we are not entirely surprised by this action," Suthers said. "However, it appears the plaintiffs’ primary grievance stems from non-enforcement of federal laws regarding marijuana, as opposed to choices made by the voters of Colorado. We believe this suit is without merit and we will vigorously defend against it in the U.S. Supreme Court.”

Bruning, along with Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt, argue that under the U.S. Constitution's Supremacy Clause, Colorado's legalization of recreational marijuana is unconstitutional because marijuana remains illegal under federal law. The clause states that in general, federal law takes precedence over state law.

"The illegal products being distributed in Colorado are being trafficked across state lines thereby injuring neighboring states like Oklahoma and Nebraska," Pruitt said in a statement.

The regulation of recreational marijuana -- as seen in programs currently in place in Colorado and Washington state, as well as those that will soon go into effect in Oregon and Alaska -- remains illegal under the 1970 Controlled Substances Act. The states that have legalized marijuana or softened penalties for possession have only been able to do so because of federal guidance urging federal prosecutors to refrain from targeting state-legal marijuana operations.

Colorado voters approved Amendment 64, legalizing recreational marijuana in the state, in 2012. The first retail marijuana shops opened their doors on New Years Day 2014. To date, 23 states and the District of Columbia have legalized marijuana for medical purposes. Four states have legalized recreational marijuana, along with voters in D.C. -- though the D.C. measure is the subject of a congressional Republican effort to block its implementation.

With a majority of Americans now supporting marijuana legalization, and with states continuing to pass legalization laws, it seems unlikely that the federal government would push back against the legalizations. But it's not impossible. If the Supreme Court were to rule in favor of Nebraska and Oklahoma, all state marijuana laws, in any form, could be in jeopardy of being unraveled.

Harvard economist Jeff Miron, a vocal supporter of marijuana policy reform, highlighted the precarious nature of state marijuana laws in a November op-ed for CNN, saying that Congress needs to act now on federal marijuana policy.

"Despite the compelling case for legalization, and progress toward legalization at the state level, ultimate success is not assured," Miron wrote. "Federal law still prohibits marijuana, and existing jurisprudence (Gonzales v. Raich 2005) holds that federal law trumps state law when it comes to marijuana prohibition. So far, the federal government has mostly taken a hands-off approach to state medicalizations and legalizations, but in January 2017, the country will have a new president. That person could order the attorney general to enforce federal prohibition regardless of state law."

Kevin Sabet, president of anti-legalization group Smart Approaches to Marijuana, applauded the action by Nebraska and Oklahoma.

"We support this action by the attorneys general of Oklahoma and Nebraska because Colorado's decisions regarding marijuana are not without consequences to neighboring states, and indeed all Americans," Sabet said. "The legalization of marijuana is clearly in violation of the federal Controlled Substances Act and is not implemented in a vacuum."

Mason Tvert, communications director for Marijuana Policy Project, told The Huffington Post that MPP agrees with Suthers' opinion that the suit is "without merit."

"Nebraska officials are acting like bullies, and they have no business trying to dictate Colorado's marijuana laws," Tvert said to HuffPost. "They are wasting their taxpayers’ dollars by filing this suit and forcing Coloradans to pick up the bill for defending our state against it. Colorado's top law enforcement officials have better things to do and you’d think Nebraska’s would, as well. These guys are on the wrong side of history."

Marijuana Industry Group's Mike Elliott echoed Tvert's sentiments, adding that despite the multi-decade federal war on drugs, marijuana remains "universally available" -- including in Nebraska and Oklahoma.

"If Nebraska and Oklahoma succeed, they will put the violent criminal organizations back in charge," Elliott said.

Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), a vocal supporter of drug policy reform who has sponsored multiple bills seeking protection for state-legal marijuana businesses and advocated full-scale federal legalization of the drug, told HuffPost that Nebraska and Oklahoma attempting to overturn the will of Colorado's voters is "outrageous."

“Our federalist system is based on individual states being able to enact policies that benefit their citizens, without the interference of other states," Polis said.

 

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Serious / Re: Women could serve in the British Infantry by 2016
« on: December 19, 2014, 02:23:44 AM »

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The Flood / Re: Weaboos should die
« on: December 19, 2014, 01:48:41 AM »
Two nukes weren't enough

We need THREE nukes.
Nukes aren't strong enough

We need an Ion Cannon


We need the Death Star.

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The Flood / Re: Average shitpost
« on: December 19, 2014, 01:41:13 AM »
This is advanced shitposting.

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Gaming / Re: Halo 5: Guardians Beta - Early Access Thoughts
« on: December 19, 2014, 01:40:46 AM »
Is the ground pound of use at all, or will we forget it's there?

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The Flood / Re: Weaboos should die
« on: December 19, 2014, 01:40:26 AM »
Two nukes weren't enough

We need THREE nukes.

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The Flood / Re: I've Gone Gay for Jesus
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:44:41 AM »

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The Flood / I've Gone Gay for Jesus
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:41:28 AM »


He knows what's up.

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This thread title is triggering me.
that was the intent you fucking faggot whore cunt

Banned.

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Are you positive that's what they're going for here? This isn't just some ho yay speculative garbage?

Uhh, after watching the entire series, about 99.9% sure it's what they're going for.

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This thread title is triggering me.

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The Flood / Re: So, Uh... That Legend of Korra Finale....
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:30:31 AM »
Y'know..
Lesbians seem a lot more accepted than gay guys.
Just saying >__>

Wait...you serious?
Yeh.
I had another example to back it up, but I forgot it...
Oh! Disney! On one of their shows they had lesbian moms!

And on half of the primetime shows I can name, there's gay male characters. I can name more gay male characters than I can name lesbian characters on television.
All I can think of are the horrendously stereotypical gay couple from Cougar Town.

- Modern Family
- HTGAWM
- Scandal
- Greys Anatomy
- House of Cards (Bisexual?)

Some off the top of my head

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The Flood / Re: So, Uh... That Legend of Korra Finale....
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:28:33 AM »
Y'know..
Lesbians seem a lot more accepted than gay guys.
Just saying >__>

Wait...you serious?
Yeh.
I had another example to back it up, but I forgot it...
Oh! Disney! On one of their shows they had lesbian moms!

And on half of the primetime shows I can name, there's gay male characters. I can name more gay male characters than I can name lesbian characters on television.
b/c lesbos don't have dicks to stick in unnatural places.

I mean...I like dicks being stuck in some unnatural places.

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The Flood / Re: So, Uh... That Legend of Korra Finale....
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:28:00 AM »
Y'know..
Lesbians seem a lot more accepted than gay guys.
Just saying >__>

Wait...you serious?
Yeh.
I had another example to back it up, but I forgot it...
Oh! Disney! On one of their shows they had lesbian moms!

And on half of the primetime shows I can name, there's gay male characters. I can name more gay male characters than I can name lesbian characters on television.
Well then I'm sorry!
I don't watch television anymore!

 ???

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The Flood / Re: So, Uh... That Legend of Korra Finale....
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:26:32 AM »
I haven't watched it yet.

Korrasami?

>.>

Yeah. It happened.

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The Flood / Re: So, Uh... That Legend of Korra Finale....
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:26:18 AM »
Y'know..
Lesbians seem a lot more accepted than gay guys.
Just saying >__>

Wait...you serious?
Yeh.
I had another example to back it up, but I forgot it...
Oh! Disney! On one of their shows they had lesbian moms!

And on half of the primetime shows I can name, there's gay male characters. I can name more gay male characters than I can name lesbian characters on television.

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The Flood / Re: The Gay Evolutionary Process
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:24:30 AM »

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The Flood / Re: So, Uh... That Legend of Korra Finale....
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:23:22 AM »
Y'know..
Lesbians seem a lot more accepted than gay guys.
Just saying >__>

Wait...you serious?

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The Flood / Re: So, Uh... That Legend of Korra Finale....
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:21:00 AM »
Swiggity swooty, she's coming for that booty.

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The Flood / Re: Dammit Cheat, control your people.
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:18:34 AM »
Ktan, I think it would be more beneficial to PM Cheat or one of the mods (Who can give said information to Cheat) - this thread is going to simply cause more arguments and fights.

But please, do share any information you have.

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The Flood / Re: So, Uh... That Legend of Korra Finale....
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:15:04 AM »

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The Flood / Re: So, Uh... That Legend of Korra Finale....
« on: December 19, 2014, 12:13:18 AM »
Yus
If so, then I didn't think Nick had the balls to go the no balls approach. Bravo Nick

Well. It's not officially said.

But I mean...it's pretty much said.

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