Norway moves all troops outside the borders.

Fagistan has no standing army.

Requirements for citizenship?

Have a nice butt.

Quote from: Rocketman287 on December 25, 2014, 09:58:44 PM

Quote from: Fagcicle on December 25, 2014, 09:40:25 PM

- Stuff for Florida

WELCOME ICY!!!

I'll start the nation of Fagistan.

where the fuck is the redesign you nameplate stealing nigger?

Process was slowed due to alcohol.

Should be up by the New Year.

New adidas sneakers
Keurig Machine
New Nikon Camera
3 Sweatshirts
Adidas Fleece
Couple Plaid Button Downs
Gift Cards
Cash

No offense, but that picture is fucking creepy.

>.>

Quote from: Keyu on December 24, 2014, 05:17:53 PM

Worst time for this discussion as I'm juggling family stuff like I'm sure many of you are. Won't be able to read or discuss as much as I'd like for a couple days here.

^Hit the nail on the fucking head.

It's fucking christmas, we shouldn't be fething around on the bloody forums trying to figure out some rule change bollocks.

Hence the poll being open until at least Sunday.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/middle-ground

I'd hardly say this is applicable.

In light of the upcoming revamp to the look of the website under Isara, and due to concerns over problems in the way the site staff moderates the website - we have decided to take a look and update the current system as we go into the New Year, to make the site more appealing and open to all members.

In this poll, we are asking which type of moderation system you would prefer to see used for the website, out of three options - A strict system, a lax system, or a hybrid system. More information on the three systems are found directly below.

• Strict System - Under this system of moderation, all rules will be enforced more heavily with a clear, concrete moderation process when it comes to warnings and bans (This process would be shared with the community once it is developed). While we will not become Waypoint and just ban without letting you know ahead of time that you are breaking the rules - there would be far less verbal warnings being given out before we actually take moderation action. Essentially: You know the rules, you follow the rules, or you lose privilege to post on the forums.
• Lax System - Similar to what we have now, this system would take a more relaxed route to enforcing the rules, with moderation decisions less concrete. While there would be a suggestion moderation process, any punishments would ultimately come down to the Moderator that is online and handling the problem, along with the severity of the rule break, and whether or not there are alternatives to bans available
• Hybrid System - This would use both the strict and lax systems, and apply them to different rules for the website. For example, Personal Attacks/Graphic Content/Harassment would fall under the Strict System - you know that it is not allowed, and the moderation process for handling them is concrete and clear. Issues like spam and shitposting, however, would fall under the Lax System - it comes down to the moderator's discretion as to how it is dealt with*

* The Hybrid System is up for consideration, but we also ask for your input on the idea - what rules should be strict, what should be lax, etc.

No matter what system is chosen, we will come up and inform the entire community of the new moderation guidelines and processes. We also ask for everyone to not only vote in this thread, but to voice your ideas and concerns in the comments below so that we may try and adapt this to suit the needs of the community.

This poll will run through the weekend, giving everyone ample time to vote and weigh in. Afterwards, the site staff will go over the results and begin work. If you have any questions, feel free to ask as well.

Thank you all, and have a great holiday!

~Sep7agon Site Staff

I think if we ever implemented the system verb, meta, and sandtrap are speaking of (stricter moderation) I'd probably end up leaving.

Part of this places appeal is it lax atmosphere.

Like I said - there is also a Hybrid system (I might as well explain that briefly while I'm here since the poll won't be up for a bit).

Brief explanation for the Hybrid System

- Strict Rule Enforcement, and Clear Moderation Guidelines, for rules such as Personal Attacks, Graphic Content, Harassment - the stuff that makes this website annoying to visit. You still get a verbal warning, but you don't get 10 before a ban - 1 and then ban.
- More relaxed rule enforcement, and a suggested, but not required, moderation guidelines for rules like spam and shitposting - yeah, it may not be your cup of tea, but it's not entirely detrimental. Similar to now, where the moderators online decide the punishment, or work to avoid bans if possible.

It'll be better explained later. Give your thoughts now if you want.

Quote from: Fagcicle on December 24, 2014, 02:49:32 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 24, 2014, 02:47:00 PM

Quote from: Flee on December 24, 2014, 02:43:13 PM

Regarding communication between the mods and members, I had a recent suggestion that basically included a response window with each report. Every mod dealing with a report would then provide a quick and anonymous response on what they did and why. Does anyone feel like this would be a good idea?

Doesn't feel personal enough.

I think - as long as we have the monitors - they should serve the role as communicators. You could modify such a system, and make it so moderators choose the response to be made and then the monitors "pick up" the various responses and personally deliver them to whichever user on behalf of the moderator.

Problem is, Monitor's don't have access to the report system to see what is reported - nor can they see the actions being done by Moderators. It became a process to get information from a Ninja who isn't on Skype (Where we do most of our discussing as it's quicker), for the Monitor to then send a PM.

Would it not be possible to create an auxiliary system alongside the report list, a sort of "response list" which doesn't necessarily need direct 1-to-1 communications between monitors and moderators?

That would come to Cheat/Isara to find out. I'm not aware of the coding, or potential for it to happen.

Quote from: Flee on December 24, 2014, 02:43:13 PM

Regarding communication between the mods and members, I had a recent suggestion that basically included a response window with each report. Every mod dealing with a report would then provide a quick and anonymous response on what they did and why. Does anyone feel like this would be a good idea?

Doesn't feel personal enough.

I think - as long as we have the monitors - they should serve the role as communicators. You could modify such a system, and make it so moderators choose the response to be made and then the monitors "pick up" the various responses and personally deliver them to whichever user on behalf of the moderator.

Problem is, Monitor's don't have access to the report system to see what is reported - nor can they see the actions being done by Moderators. It became a process to get information from a Ninja who isn't on Skype (Where we do most of our discussing as it's quicker), for the Monitor to then send a PM.

Certainly good to see progress being made.

Quote from: Cheat on December 24, 2014, 02:25:53 PM

So if you're suggesting moving everything but the religious and political discussions into the flood, I'm all for it. It would certainly raise the quality of the threads here, but I worry about how popular Serious would become when it only contains those two subjects...

That's my concern too.

Would it be possible to display both feeds on a single webpage?

I feel like the biggest problem is the "Anything Controversial" aspect of Serious.

If we potentially alter that wording to make it more clear, it could help confusion.

Quote from: Fagcicle on December 24, 2014, 02:02:30 PM

But whatever we do do - there won't be happiness. If we become more strict, we are becoming Waypoint. If we become more lax, we apparently don't care about the forums.

You're putting words in my mouth. At no point did I say there needs to be a change in the strictness or the laxness of the punishments, themselves.

Not you exclusively Meta. We already have your suggestions.