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5941

You see the crossed out name on that letter?

That person died as a female, because those were their wishes.

When I die can I be a dog?

Take your trolling to the Flood.

SO I can die as a woman but not a dog?

Makes sense.

Not trolling. I'm literally curious.

This is about as logical a discussion as your "So i can fake a mental illness?"

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Fuck that dude. One more year and he could have left
This is exactly what I was talking about in my other thread.

Fuck off with that shit.

Why? I'm just going by the wishes of his mother.

Pro-Tip:Older Generations are not always right.



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The Flood / Re: Prepare Your Anguses
« on: December 31, 2014, 05:43:22 PM »
Controlled anarchy is lame

Only controlling spillage into the other forums, tbh

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The Flood / Prepare Your Anguses
« on: December 31, 2014, 05:29:52 PM »
The winds, they are changing.

Anarchy is nearly here.


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The Flood / Re: Update on Sep7agon V2
« on: December 31, 2014, 05:29:24 PM »
I really haven't seen very much stuff with regards to this update. Have there been some screenshots posted of what the update might look like?

Not outside of the staff forum.

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Gender needs to be taught about in schools, the earlier the better. My death needs to mean something. My death needs to be counted in the number of transgender people who commit suicide this year. I want someone to look at that number and say “that’s fucked up” and fix it. Fix society. Please.

I feel like the people and trolls in this thread only reinforce this point.

You know what's really fucking shitty about the whole thing? Take a look at their writing. This person had a solid head on them.

"A penny for my thoughts, oh, no, I'll sell 'em for a dollar
They're worth so much more after I'm a goner
And maybe then you'll hear the words I been singin'
Funny when you're dead how people start listenin"

It is true though. Suddenly you drop dead and all the people in town come to your funeral when they wouldn't so much as say hello to you on the street.

Pretty much.


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The first number in RC's phone number is 5.


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Gender needs to be taught about in schools, the earlier the better. My death needs to mean something. My death needs to be counted in the number of transgender people who commit suicide this year. I want someone to look at that number and say “that’s fucked up” and fix it. Fix society. Please.

I feel like the people and trolls in this thread only reinforce this point.

You know what's really fucking shitty about the whole thing? Take a look at their writing. This person had a solid head on them.

"A penny for my thoughts, oh, no, I'll sell 'em for a dollar
They're worth so much more after I'm a goner
And maybe then you'll hear the words I been singin'
Funny when you're dead how people start listenin"

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The Flood / Re: New Year Resolutions You Should Follow But Won't
« on: December 31, 2014, 05:00:15 PM »
New Years Resolutions are pointless, because they almost all fail.

Set New Year Goals.

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Gender needs to be taught about in schools, the earlier the better. My death needs to mean something. My death needs to be counted in the number of transgender people who commit suicide this year. I want someone to look at that number and say “that’s fucked up” and fix it. Fix society. Please.

I feel like the people and trolls in this thread only reinforce this point.


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The Flood / Re: Update on Sep7agon V2
« on: December 31, 2014, 04:33:32 PM »
I have no idea why you people get hyped for this kind of stuff. You're only setting yourself up for disappointment.

They do it so they have validation to complain.


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The Flood / Re: Update on Sep7agon V2
« on: December 31, 2014, 04:19:15 PM »
In my ten years of using the Internet, I've never seen a good site update. Just throwing that out there...

We're aiming to disappoint as many as we can.

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Septagon / MOVED: Update on Sep7agon V2
« on: December 31, 2014, 04:10:49 PM »

5954
The Flood / Re: You want to know?
« on: December 31, 2014, 03:51:24 PM »

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The Flood / Re: You want to know?
« on: December 31, 2014, 03:47:45 PM »
'Cause they most closely resemble foxes, which Elegiac likes to role-play as...
So because they're both canines with a familial resemblance. What's awful about that?
It's less the term itself, and more the fact that people go out out of their way to call him one. It's sort of harassment.
Partially true, but not really.
Which part? If your intent is to get a rise out of someone, it doesn't really matter what words you use--you're still trying to get on someone's nerves. That alone is enough to get on someone's nerves.

People do it because they see Elegiac makes a big deal about it - the same way they would do it with Deci (Who was much worse).

Either way, the staff is no longer going to be editing out every use of "dingo" aimed at Elegiac - but that doesn't mean you have free reign to do it as you please. If it gets excessive, we will step in.
Saw that that became untenable did you?

Eh, it's moreso due to changes in our moderating policy

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The Flood / Re: You want to know?
« on: December 31, 2014, 03:40:33 PM »
'Cause they most closely resemble foxes, which Elegiac likes to role-play as...
So because they're both canines with a familial resemblance. What's awful about that?
It's less the term itself, and more the fact that people go out out of their way to call him one. It's sort of harassment.
Partially true, but not really.
Which part? If your intent is to get a rise out of someone, it doesn't really matter what words you use--you're still trying to get on someone's nerves. That alone is enough to get on someone's nerves.

People do it because they see Elegiac makes a big deal about it - the same way they would do it with Deci (Who was much worse).

Either way, the staff is no longer going to be editing out every use of "dingo" aimed at Elegiac - but that doesn't mean you have free reign to do it as you please. If it gets excessive, we will step in.


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The Flood / Re: You want to know?
« on: December 31, 2014, 03:36:21 PM »
'Cause they most closely resemble foxes, which Elegiac likes to role-play as...
So because they're both canines with a familial resemblance. What's awful about that?
It's less the term itself, and more the fact that people go out out of their way to call him one. It's sort of harassment.

Partially true, but not really.

5958
Fuck that dude. One more year and he could have left.

Committing suicide is selfish in itself, but to do it the way he did is an embarrassment. No pity from me.

That fact that you refer to her as a him is quite embarrassing.


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She had one year to hold out, but instead made the conscious decision to fucking martyr herself. Congratulations, you're no longer capable of being an activist for the better treatment of trans youth, because now you're just another fucking statistic. One god damn year to hold out under her parents.

Not entirely true. The article makes it sound like she was attempting to raise money to leave and go to college, but we don't know how close she was.

Also, she died after being hit by a tractor trailer as she walked along the side of a road (highway?). Not intentional suicide, it sounds like.

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Serious / Transgender Teen's Suicide Note Goes Viral following her Death
« on: December 31, 2014, 02:16:51 PM »
Story

Her note in full:

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'If you are reading this, it means that I have committed suicide and obviously failed to delete this post from my queue.

Please don’t be sad, it’s for the better. The life I would’ve lived isn’t worth living in… because I’m transgender. I could go into detail explaining why I feel that way, but this note is probably going to be lengthy enough as it is. To put it simply, I feel like a girl trapped in a boy’s body, and I’ve felt that way ever since I was 4. I never knew there was a word for that feeling, nor was it possible for a boy to become a girl, so I never told anyone and I just continued to do traditionally “boyish” things to try to fit in.

When I was 14, I learned what transgender meant and cried of happiness. After 10 years of confusion I finally understood who I was. I immediately told my mom, and she reacted extremely negatively, telling me that it was a phase, that I would never truly be a girl, that God doesn’t make mistakes, that I am wrong. If you are reading this, parents, please don’t tell this to your kids. Even if you are Christian or are against transgender people don’t ever say that to someone, especially your kid. That won’t do anything but make them hate them self. That’s exactly what it did to me.

My mom started taking me to a therapist, but would only take me to christian therapists, (who were all very biased) so I never actually got the therapy I needed to cure me of my depression. I only got more christians telling me that I was selfish and wrong and that I should look to God for help.

When I was 16 I realized that my parents would never come around, and that I would have to wait until I was 18 to start any sort of transitioning treatment, which absolutely broke my heart. The longer you wait, the harder it is to transition. I felt hopeless, that I was just going to look like a man in drag for the rest of my life. On my 16th birthday, when I didn’t receive consent from my parents to start transitioning, I cried myself to sleep.

I formed a sort of a “fuck you” attitude towards my parents and came out as gay at school, thinking that maybe if I eased into coming out as trans it would be less of a shock. Although the reaction from my friends was positive, my parents were pissed. They felt like I was attacking their image, and that I was an embarrassment to them. They wanted me to be their perfect little straight christian boy, and that’s obviously not what I wanted.

So they took me out of public school, took away my laptop and phone, and forbid me of getting on any sort of social media, completely isolating me from my friends. This was probably the part of my life when I was the most depressed, and I’m surprised I didn’t kill myself. I was completely alone for 5 months. No friends, no support, no love. Just my parent’s disappointment and the cruelty of loneliness.

At the end of the school year, my parents finally came around and gave me my phone and let me back on social media. I was excited, I finally had my friends back. They were extremely excited to see me and talk to me, but only at first. Eventually they realized they didn’t actually give a shit about me, and I felt even lonelier than I did before. The only friends I thought I had only liked me because they saw me five times a week.

After a summer of having almost no friends plus the weight of having to think about college, save money for moving out, keep my grades up, go to church each week and feel like shit because everyone there is against everything I live for, I have decided I’ve had enough. I’m never going to transition successfully, even when I move out. I’m never going to be happy with the way I look or sound. I’m never going to have enough friends to satisfy me. I’m never going to have enough love to satisfy me. I’m never going to find a man who loves me. I’m never going to be happy. Either I live the rest of my life as a lonely man who wishes he were a woman or I live my life as a lonelier woman who hates herself. There’s no winning. There’s no way out. I’m sad enough already, I don’t need my life to get any worse. People say “it gets better” but that isn’t true in my case. It gets worse. Each day I get worse.

That’s the gist of it, that’s why I feel like killing myself. Sorry if that’s not a good enough reason for you, it’s good enough for me. As for my will, I want 100% of the things that I legally own to be sold and the money (plus my money in the bank) to be given to trans civil rights movements and support groups, I don’t give a shit which one. The only way I will rest in peace is if one day transgender people aren’t treated the way I was, they’re treated like humans, with valid feelings and human rights. Gender needs to be taught about in schools, the earlier the better. My death needs to mean something. My death needs to be counted in the number of transgender people who commit suicide this year. I want someone to look at that number and say “that’s fucked up” and fix it. Fix society. Please.

Goodbye,
(Leelah) J̶o̶s̶h̶ Alcorn'


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The Flood / Re: Let me tell you something about myself.
« on: December 31, 2014, 02:02:26 PM »
No bitch, it was decided long ago that casual insults were okay. That's why I don't report the majority of shit flinging on the forum.

Casual insults - lol stupid, fgt, etc.

You've repeatedly called out several of the users previously, which is why you got the warning. Plus, calling me a gay asshole didn't help.

Cut the shit or you'll be getting a lite-ban.

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Serious / Re: Palestine to join the International Criminal Court
« on: December 31, 2014, 01:59:33 PM »
No, I side with Israel. If they want to be treated like a legitimate state they need to let go their relationship with Hamas. Otherwise, Israeli's slow absorption of its territory is completely morally justified in my view.
If they let go of Hamas, Israel will absorb them anyway.
What reason do you have to believe that?
They've driven the Palestinians from the rest of their land, why stop here?
Because they wouldn't have allies if they completely absorbed their country.

The United States disagrees.

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The Flood / Re: You want to know?
« on: December 31, 2014, 01:57:08 PM »
Now, I'm going to have to make a list of these little cunts who call me dingo and decide on a punishment and deterrent before the rules change. So that I don't become their bitch.

>Claims that he doesn't insult others in OP
> Insults them in response

Elegiac, just so you know - deciding to take public action against those users (Either pre or post rule changes) could result in punishment to yourself as well. We know you don't care and have stated you feel you are above the rules in previous issues, but figure I'd let you know ahead of time.

If you don't care about breaking the rules, we won't care about enforcing them on all involved - including you.
I swear to god, Icy, you have a sieve for a brain. In the OP I talked about running jokes. Not one-off insults. I accept one-off insults.(How many times have I told you that you have a sieve for a brain?) I put myself forward as free game for them. I love the way that you still think that you understand situations with more foresight or insight than I do, even though I've explained myself to you more fully than I have to any other mod. I'm not saying that your insight or understanding might not match my own, but you should understand by now that there's nothing that you can explain to me that I haven't already thought of for myself. I'll try to shut them up in a civil fashion.

Refer to my PM, please and thank you.

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The Flood / Re: You want to know?
« on: December 31, 2014, 01:51:41 PM »
Icy is a kangaroo.
This thread is also hilarious.

I identify as a #2 Mechanical Pencil.


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The Flood / Re: Your favourite animal
« on: December 31, 2014, 01:39:43 PM »
Koalas.


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The Flood / Re: You want to know?
« on: December 31, 2014, 01:32:40 PM »
Now, I'm going to have to make a list of these little cunts who call me dingo and decide on a punishment and deterrent before the rules change. So that I don't become their bitch.

>Claims that he doesn't insult others in OP
> Insults them in response

Elegiac, just so you know - deciding to take public action against those users (Either pre or post rule changes) could result in punishment to yourself as well. We know you don't care and have stated you feel you are above the rules in previous issues, but figure I'd let you know ahead of time.

If you don't care about breaking the rules, we won't care about enforcing them on all involved - including you.

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Serious / Palestine to join the International Criminal Court
« on: December 31, 2014, 01:29:16 PM »
x

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RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) — Stung by a resounding defeat in the U.N. Security Council, the Palestinians announced Wednesday that they joined the International Criminal Court to pursue war crimes charges against Israel.

The move by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas set the stage for a diplomatic showdown with the United States and drew an angry response from Israel.

"The one who needs to fear the International Criminal Court in the Hague is the Palestinian Authority, which has a unity government with Hamas, a terror organization like (the Islamic State group) which commits war crimes," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement.

Netanyahu called Israel's soldiers "the most moral army in the world" and said the country would take unspecified "retaliatory steps."

U.S. State Department spokesman Edgar Vasquez said America strongly opposed the move and warned it would be "counter-productive and do nothing to further the aspirations of the Palestinian people for a sovereign and independent state."

"It will badly damage the atmosphere with the very people with whom they ultimately need to make peace," Vasquez said in a statement.

Abbas has been under heavy domestic pressure to take action against Israel following months of tensions fueled by the collapse of U.S.-brokered peace talks, a 50-day war between Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza, a spate of deadly Palestinian attacks on Israeli targets and Israeli restrictions on Palestinian access to a key Muslim holy site in Jerusalem. Tuesday's defeat in the U.N. Security Council further raised pressure on Abbas to act.

"We want to complain. There's aggression against us, against our land. The Security Council disappointed us," Abbas said as he gathered a meeting of the Palestinian leadership in the West Bank.

Abbas had threatened to join the international court if Tuesday's Security Council resolution failed. The Palestinians had asked the council to set a three-year deadline for Israel to withdraw from all occupied lands claimed by the Palestinians.

After two decades of failed, on-again, off-again peace talks, the Palestinians have grown disillusioned and decided to seek international recognition of their independence in the absence in various global bodies. While the campaign does not change the situation on the ground, the Palestinians believe the strong international support will put pressure on Israel to allow the creation of a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem.

Israel, which captured the three areas in 1967, says Palestinian independence can only be reached through negotiations. It opposes the Palestinian diplomatic campaign as an attempt to bypass negotiations.

The Palestinian campaign scored a major victory in 2012 when Palestine was admitted to the U.N. General Assembly as a nonmember observer state. This upgraded status gave the Palestinians the authority to join dozens of international treaties and agencies.

Still, turning to the International Criminal Court marks a major policy shift by transforming Abbas' relations with Israel from tense to openly hostile. Abbas has been threatening to join the court since 2012, but held off under American and Israeli pressure. The Palestinians can use the court to challenge the legality of Israeli settlement construction on occupied lands and to pursue war crimes charges connected to military activity.

Honestly - aside from the US/UK/AUS, and other similarly allied territories - it feels like a good chunk of the world has said "Fuck it" in regards to there ever being substantial peace talks.

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The Flood / Re: You want to know?
« on: December 31, 2014, 01:23:33 PM »
Actually, that isn't the reason (And considering you used weeb in an earlier thread, which may be offensive to some users, I counter your claim that you don't insult others).

Not being offended is also very simple. =]

Also a good tactic.
Ah shut up, Icy. I use it occasionally and no ones ever asked me to stop because I don't use it as an insult.

Whatever you say dude.

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The Flood / Re: You want to know?
« on: December 31, 2014, 01:16:28 PM »
Actually, that isn't the reason (And considering you used weeb in an earlier thread, which may be offensive to some users, I counter your claim that you don't insult others).

Not being offended is also very simple. =]

Also a good tactic.

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The Flood / Re: Let me tell you something about myself.
« on: December 31, 2014, 12:57:07 PM »
Again, kindly refrain from calling Elegiac a dingo, please and thank you.


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