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His wife's aide had a boyfriend with a history criminal behavior, including murder, who also made hostile statements against the police and sees discrimination where there is none.
Are we going to start blaming everyone for the people they're marginally associated with?
A person in his position should not associate with someone like that.

So, an aide of his wife (Who, as a First Lady, holds little power) once dated a guy with criminal history.

That's a very thin string to tie to De Blasio, Kupo. That's like saying, because Obama dated a girl whose brother was a drug dealer, he is for illegal drugs.

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The Flood / Re: Avengers: Age Of Ultron Trailer #2
« on: January 06, 2015, 07:21:55 PM »


Obligatory gif.

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The Flood / Re: Would You Support Unsticking the "Music Thread"?
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:56:05 PM »
I pinned it because every offsite I've ever been apart of has had a designated one. The constant music threads that popped up on The Flood used to bother more than a few and they didn't particularly want the same thing happening on their offsite.

This is a different community and so it can make different decisions. Personally, I don't really care.

That's understandable.


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The Flood / Re: Would You Support Unsticking the "Music Thread"?
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:53:09 PM »
I agree in removing it, plus who are you again?

The ninja that resigned.
I don't think i've expressed how much this fucking sucks. Who will I blow, now, for my mod bias?

Demonic.

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The Flood / Re: Would You Support Unsticking the "Music Thread"?
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:51:24 PM »
I agree in removing it, plus who are you again?

The ninja that resigned.

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The Flood / Would You Support Unsticking the "Music Thread"?
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:48:07 PM »
The topic of unsticking the "Music Thread" was brought up in a thread yesterday, where some users expressed their belief that the thread should no longer be at the top of the forum 24/7, due to the fact there is little discussion (other than posting videos again and again), and that removing it may spur more thread creation when it comes to sharing songs and discussing music in general. Of course, there are likely users here who believe the thread is a good topic for our forum, so we're also looking for you to give your opinion.

So, feel free to vote in the poll and share your comments on the topic. Thanks

(Edit: Stickying this poll (Ironic, huh) for a day so people can see it without it being buried).

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The Flood / Re: Oh No! HE's Been Resurrected!
« on: January 06, 2015, 06:39:42 PM »

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She's a minor, so consent lies with her mother. Since both her and her mother say no to chemotherapy, it should end there. I think it's a dumbass choice considering the alternative, but that's not my call to make and it isn't the government's either.

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Well, first off, I'm curious as to why the Mother is so willing to go along with zero treatment (This article doesn't say, other than Cassandra initially went through with treatment, but after two weeks the girl ran away). Is the Mother just afraid her daughter will leave? Does she have actual opposition to the medication? If it's that she's afraid her daughter would leave again, I hardly think that is adequate enough reasoning.

Hence why I am glad this is going to at least be questioned.

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help.
You have a funny definition of that word.

The government is acting contrary to the expressed wishes of both the girl and the mother. That isn't, by any stretch of language, being "helpful".

Well, first off, I'm curious as to why the Mother is so willing to go along with zero treatment (This article doesn't say, other than Cassandra initially went through with treatment, but after two weeks the girl ran away). Is the Mother just afraid her daughter will leave? Does she have actual opposition to the medication? If it's that she's afraid her daughter would leave again, I hardly think that is adequate enough reasoning.

Second off, I'm curious as to whether the girl, like you posted, is mentally fit without depression or other problems, to make the decision.

Perhaps help is the wrong word, but there are plenty of questions that should still be answered.

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The Flood / Re: If a Bookstore Never Runs Out of a Certain Book
« on: January 06, 2015, 03:43:35 PM »


don't reveal my actual identity omg.

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If this was a case where the child wanted it, and the parents didn't, I would absolutely say the state should step in.

But that isn't the case. If she doesn't want it, that's her choice. Her mother is on board. Let them deal with her disease in peace.

Problem is, their legal argument is based on statues that have been passed (And have not passed) in other states regarding whether children can make this kind of decision. It's not like we have clear cut opinions that they can.
But the mother supports the decision, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

Because the decision would, likely, lead to the girl's death.

If this was a "I don't want to get a flu shot!" case, sure. Let the daughter do what she wants. But this is a "Listen, you either get the treatment to potentially (85% chance) live, or you run an extremely high risk of dying" - so yes, I applaud the state for stepping in to at least try and help.


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If this was a case where the child wanted it, and the parents didn't, I would absolutely say the state should step in.

But that isn't the case. If she doesn't want it, that's her choice. Her mother is on board. Let them deal with her disease in peace.

Problem is, their legal argument is based on statues that have been passed (And have not passed) in other states regarding whether children can make this kind of decision. It's not like we have clear cut opinions that they can.

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the Department has a responsibility to take action

More government stepping into people's personal lives. No, you don't have a responsibility nor any authority to force somebody to go through treatment they refuse to have. This isn't fucking China last I checked

We, as a society, don't have a responsibility to ensure our children grow up healthy and receive the best possible care for illness?

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The Flood / If a Bookstore Never Runs Out of a Certain Book
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:31:16 PM »
Does that mean nobody reads it, or everybody reads it?

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The Flood / Re: If mad was
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:27:57 PM »
You gon get fucked.

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The Flood / Re: Lemme clear a couple of things up.
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:25:49 PM »
The Beatles are popular for a reason, by the way. In terms of both lyrical and melodic quality, they have pretty much every other band out there beat.

Justin Bieber is popular as well - in fact, some would argue he's more popular (today) than The Beatles were at their peak.

Doesn't make the shit he does good. It means girls will fall for pretty looks.

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Lol mods think they have power in the flood


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The Flood / Re: Lemme clear a couple of things up.
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:21:31 PM »
The Beatles really weren't that good.

5751
He lies.

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The Flood / Re: Australia
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:14:06 PM »
Yeah but their not in the EU.

America isn't in the EU either, lol
Yeah two of the best countries in the world and they're not in the EU. Coincidence? I think not
Australia isn't a country

It either is, or it isn't.

50/50

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The Flood / Re: Australia
« on: January 06, 2015, 02:11:35 PM »
Australia gave us the Emu War.

That's their best contribution.

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Story

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A court will determine whether a 17-year-old girl, under something called the "mature minor doctrine," can be forced to undergo chemotherapy after she refused treatment for her cancer.

The case will go to the Connecticut Supreme court this week to determine whether the teen, identified in court papers as Cassandra, has "the fundamental right to have a say about what goes on with your [her] body," attorney Michael Taylor, who represents the teen's mother, told ABC News. Taylor was appointed by the public defender's office, and Cassandra has her own court-appointed lawyer, but they've filed joint appeals.

Cassandra was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma in September, but decided she didn't want to complete the prescribed treatment, according to a court summary. Her mother supported this decision, but the Department of Children and Families stepped in and ordered her mother to comply with the doctor's treatment recommendation.

"It's really for all the reasons you might imagine," said Taylor, adding that he couldn't go into more detail.

Although chemotherapy is a drug that destroys cancer cells, its side effects include hair loss, nausea, pain and fertility changes, according to the National Cancer Institute.

Cassandra underwent two chemotherapy treatments in November and then ran away from home and refused to continue treatments, according to the court summary.

A court hearing ensued in which Cassandra's doctors testified, and she was removed from her mother's home and placed in state custody so that the state could make medical decisions for her.

She has been has been living at Connecticut Children's Medical Center and forced to undergo chemotherapy for about three weeks.

The Hartford Courant reported that Cassandra has an 80 to 85 percent chance of surviving her cancer if she continues with her chemotherapy.

The state Department of Children and Families issued the following statement:

"When experts -- such as the several physicians involved in this case -- tell us with certainty that a child will die as a result of leaving a decision up to a parent, then the Department has a responsibility to take action. Even if the decision might result in criticism, we have an obligation to protect the life of the child when there is consensus among the medical experts that action is required. Much of the improvements in Connecticut's child welfare system have come from working with families voluntarily to realize solutions to family challenges. Unfortunately that can't happen in every situation, especially when the life of a child is at stake."

"No one is disputing that it's very serious," Taylor said. He said there's "a good chance" Cassandra could survive her cancer with treatment, and "there's a good chance she could die if she doesn't. None of us disagree about that."

Taylor said they're trying to argue that because Cassandra is competent, she should be allowed to make this decision for herself through something called the "mature minor doctrine," which has been adopted in Illinois and a few other states but rejected in Texas. The doctrine holds that some children are mature enough to make key life decisions for themselves.

I'm torn on this. Yes, it should be the family's decision - but at the same time, refusing to go through with the treatment means the child would likely die of a cancer that is extremely treatable at this stage - and she is still a minor, meaning it's unclear if she make this decision herself.

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The Flood / Re: if mad max tried lacrosse
« on: January 06, 2015, 01:16:47 PM »


3/10

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The Flood / Re: Endings of things that you actually enjoyed.
« on: January 06, 2015, 12:21:08 PM »
AND the finale to House of Card's second season.

See, I was semi-let down by it.

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The Flood / Re: Well Cheat I must say I am impressed
« on: January 06, 2015, 01:53:07 AM »
Remember when you died in lava

Good times

He never dies.

He's just reincarnated as a figment of one's imagination.

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The Flood / Re: Well Cheat I must say I am impressed
« on: January 06, 2015, 01:50:04 AM »
I prefer an employer who doesn't kill me when i make one mistake.



I AM STILL UPSET OVER THE LACK OF A PROPER ENDING.

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The Flood / Re: Well Cheat I must say I am impressed
« on: January 06, 2015, 01:48:30 AM »
Aw shit.


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The Flood / Re: I Am Now a God
« on: January 06, 2015, 01:38:31 AM »
no you're not a god

and you're certainly not a mod

Good.

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