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5521
« on: January 09, 2015, 08:53:51 PM »
FYI to get a good job anywhere you already need a degree of some sort. It's not going to devalue the diploma any more than it already is. Plus that implies that everyone passes and gets it.
What exactly is wrong with having more educated people anyway?
Yeah, you need a degree now because people keep pushing the idea that somehow to be successful, you need a piece of paper saying you were able to stay awake for a certain amount of hours. I would love it so damn much if we can go back a couple of decades where anybody could be middle-class, have a simple high school diploma, and be a manager at a department store or wherever
> Manager at a department store
We're really reaching for some careers here.
Not everyone can be an astrophysicist. Someone's gotta provide them with material goods and access to said goods. Managerial positions aren't a bad job, and always have the prospect of moving from department to location to district.
Any higher, and yeah... you'll need that paper that people like to substitute for experience and common sense.
Exactly - managerial jobs are something most people can do without a college career. That doesn't make it a good career.
Because to qualify as a "good career" a position must require a college degree... right...
No - something that qualifies as a "good career" means the career, along with pay and benefits, will easily be able to sustain an adequate, modest lifestyle for you (and your loved ones), preferably being something you enjoy doing.
Of course, this is my definition. You may think otherwise.
I see plenty of management and leadership type roles in blue collar environments around here that can more than adequately provide a decent middle class lifestyle to a typical family.
That's great - here in New York State, you're screwed if that is your sole career.
5522
« on: January 09, 2015, 08:49:14 PM »
Oh no someone has a different opinion than me.
Opinions can be subjectively wrong.
Just because you say "it's my opinion" does not shield you from criticism if it is stupid.
I agree.
But it should shield you from having your post changed by a nazi mod.
I can't attest to what was posted - but I imagine it likely broke the Serious forum rules.
5523
« on: January 09, 2015, 08:47:26 PM »
FYI to get a good job anywhere you already need a degree of some sort. It's not going to devalue the diploma any more than it already is. Plus that implies that everyone passes and gets it.
What exactly is wrong with having more educated people anyway?
Yeah, you need a degree now because people keep pushing the idea that somehow to be successful, you need a piece of paper saying you were able to stay awake for a certain amount of hours. I would love it so damn much if we can go back a couple of decades where anybody could be middle-class, have a simple high school diploma, and be a manager at a department store or wherever
> Manager at a department store
We're really reaching for some careers here.
Not everyone can be an astrophysicist. Someone's gotta provide them with material goods and access to said goods. Managerial positions aren't a bad job, and always have the prospect of moving from department to location to district.
Any higher, and yeah... you'll need that paper that people like to substitute for experience and common sense.
Exactly - managerial jobs are something most people can do without a college career. That doesn't make it a good career.
Because to qualify as a "good career" a position must require a college degree... right...
No - something that qualifies as a "good career" means the career, along with pay and benefits, will easily be able to sustain an adequate, modest lifestyle for you (and your loved ones), preferably being something you enjoy doing. Of course, this is my definition. You may think otherwise.
5524
« on: January 09, 2015, 08:45:21 PM »
Better than Obama. Hopefully the midterm shows that we will be smart enough to not elect another Democrat
We cannot elect a Republican in 2016. It wont happen.
You cant win the White House if your platform is anti-women, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-poor, and anti-anything not christian. Not to mention how Republicans are notorious for threatening to shut down the government if they don't get what they want.
It wont happen. Republicans are toxic. Y'all need some serious help with your image and PR.
Now Kinder will cite sources to counter your claim that they are anti-all of that. You will subsequently respond with something snarky about how his sources are biased, not providing any of your own to counter. Rinse and repeat. Seriously, it's deja vu with this argument.
5525
« on: January 09, 2015, 08:43:35 PM »
...so?
So - a candidate could simply represent the needs of ten states - generally all along the Eastern Seaboard - and win election without stepping foot in any of the other 40 states. We already have that problem with candidates focusing on swing and battleground states - but those at least require a candidate to deal with different issues in various parts of the country. Again, hypothetical.
5526
« on: January 09, 2015, 08:41:41 PM »
FYI to get a good job anywhere you already need a degree of some sort. It's not going to devalue the diploma any more than it already is. Plus that implies that everyone passes and gets it.
What exactly is wrong with having more educated people anyway?
Yeah, you need a degree now because people keep pushing the idea that somehow to be successful, you need a piece of paper saying you were able to stay awake for a certain amount of hours. I would love it so damn much if we can go back a couple of decades where anybody could be middle-class, have a simple high school diploma, and be a manager at a department store or wherever
> Manager at a department store
We're really reaching for some careers here.
Not everyone can be an astrophysicist. Someone's gotta provide them with material goods and access to said goods. Managerial positions aren't a bad job, and always have the prospect of moving from department to location to district.
Any higher, and yeah... you'll need that paper that people like to substitute for experience and common sense.
Exactly - managerial jobs are something most people can do without a college career. That doesn't make it a good career.
5527
« on: January 09, 2015, 08:40:00 PM »
I would love it so damn much if we can go back a couple of decades where anybody could be middle-class, have a simple high school diploma, and be a manager at a department store or wherever
People back then also weren't nearly as educated. But sure, go ahead and travel back in time. I'm sure you'd fit in perfectly.
Yep, just 20 years ago people were running around in nothing but a loin cloth and throwing rocks at animals to see what would be a better tool for hunting. Seriously, would it be any harm for you to think for once? If anybody would fit perfectly with cavemen it would be you
Twenty years ago, there was no internet for the general consumer. Phones were still tethered to a wall with a 20ft cable. Hell, have you seen their fashion? It may only have been 20 years ago, but the world was quite different.
5528
« on: January 09, 2015, 08:38:13 PM »
or
have it be based on the true popular vote and not ever have that problem
Here's the problem - hypothetically, if every citizen in the entire country voted on election day - the only states that a candidate would need to win are California, Texas, New York, Florida, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Ohio, Georgia, and North Carolina - the population of those states already cover half of the US' population.
5529
« on: January 09, 2015, 08:32:17 PM »
FYI to get a good job anywhere you already need a degree of some sort. It's not going to devalue the diploma any more than it already is. Plus that implies that everyone passes and gets it.
What exactly is wrong with having more educated people anyway?
Yeah, you need a degree now because people keep pushing the idea that somehow to be successful, you need a piece of paper saying you were able to stay awake for a certain amount of hours. I would love it so damn much if we can go back a couple of decades where anybody could be middle-class, have a simple high school diploma, and be a manager at a department store or wherever
> Manager at a department store We're really reaching for some careers here.
5530
« on: January 09, 2015, 08:29:09 PM »
What exactly is wrong with having more educated people anyway?
Part of the devaluation process isn't just people having more of a certain qualification, but it's the strain placed on educational infrastructure--it essentially turns it into a continuation of mass-schooling.
What really needs to be done is an improvement of primary and secondary education.
I agree with that last part but I still see nothing wrong with more people having a higher level of education.
Scarcity matters.
If more people have a masters degree, it becomes worth less. That's true in any sort of situation in which the supply of something goes up. We need to have higher levels of education as we get more and more information--of course--but we ought to do it in a way of occasionally restructuring all levels of education. Just pushing more and more people into university delays dealing with the problem and allows it to saturate and get worse and worse.
A free two years at community isn't giving more people masters degrees. All it does is give more people a shot at an AA and a potential jump start towards a bachelors or even as you say, a masters.
So your point seems kind of moot.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t04.htm
The labor participation among people with an AA is around the 64% mark. That means 36% of grads can't find a job right now. Put more people into the mix and that number will increase to the point people having to shell out over $25,000 in order to get 2-4 more years of college experience, vs. having to pay less than $10,000 for a community college
Or y'know.... make more jobs, rather than outsourcing shit overseas and blaming it on there being too many people with an education.
Sometime something "Free market"
5531
« on: January 09, 2015, 08:27:48 PM »
Oh no someone has a different opinion than me.
Opinions can be subjectively wrong. Just because you say "it's my opinion" does not shield you from criticism if it is stupid.
5532
« on: January 09, 2015, 06:46:24 PM »
You've pissed me off?
Fuck, I don't know.
I just get the impression I get on your wrong side more often than other users.
I disagree with your beliefs regarding religious extremism, and how you express those beliefs. Otherwise, we cool.
5533
« on: January 09, 2015, 06:31:13 PM »
You've pissed me off?
5534
« on: January 09, 2015, 04:18:19 PM »
.2
5535
« on: January 09, 2015, 04:07:55 PM »
My only concern is this sends a message to other victims that murdering their attacker is the only option available.
5536
« on: January 09, 2015, 03:58:50 PM »
5537
« on: January 09, 2015, 03:58:44 PM »
I'm sure none of the mods want to start giving out warnings, so I think it's best to quit fighting. >.>
Your job is to keep illegal and other lewd shit off the shit
Actually, my job as a Monitor is to move out of place threads. Which this is. If you wish to continue discussing the role of the mods, I suggest doing it civilly - helps get the point across more.
5538
« on: January 09, 2015, 03:51:50 PM »
> Not downloading them for free as ebooks
Redneck, please
Sorry not all of us go to NYU
lol NYU
What do you make me for, a typical New York City fag?
Yes
I'm a fucking New York State fag. There's a colossal difference.
5539
« on: January 09, 2015, 03:51:18 PM »
I'm sure none of the mods want to start giving out warnings, so I think it's best to quit fighting. >.>
5540
« on: January 09, 2015, 03:50:14 PM »
Would you be devastated if we nuked your forum?
5541
« on: January 09, 2015, 03:49:29 PM »
> Not downloading them for free as ebooks
Redneck, please
Sorry not all of us go to NYU
lol NYU What do you make me for, a typical New York City fag?
5542
« on: January 09, 2015, 03:47:44 PM »
> Not downloading them for free as ebooks
Redneck, please
5543
« on: January 09, 2015, 03:20:18 PM »
There is a noticeable lack of gay in this thread.
Con: Occasionally arrogant.
Coming from you, I can accept this.
5544
« on: January 09, 2015, 03:17:42 PM »
Apparently you are short on reading comprehension.
I said, refrain from doing those things until the rules get clarified.
As it has been said ITT by the other guys, the rules are being worked on and NSFW stuff is going to be more relaxed with some basic courtesy rules like tagging and spoilers.
But sure, any chance to hop on the bandwagon eh? 
I don't see why you're trying to be so professional and act like you're such a big deal
There are no practical applications for new stricter rules
And what fucking bandwagon are you talking about?
It's to clear things up for the people who aren't baiting with their OP, but will no doubt read yours.
There are, and I would have thought you'd have liked the idea of being able to do NSFW roleplays in a tagged thread.
The mods are incompetent/corrupt/nazis/lazy etc bandwagon.
Why the fuck are you looking down on me?
Think you're the shit because you have an orange username?
Stop trying to evolve this site so much
Look what happened when they tried that shit on b.net
Keep it simple
Stop the porn, spam, and harassment
That's it
Quit the strict formal rules bullshit
You aren't running a corporation
This site isn't how professional you are or how much structure you put to it
It's the words that are exchanged between friends
But you seem to be above that just because you have power
The new set of rules, in my opinion, are much more simple than what we have now.
5545
« on: January 09, 2015, 03:00:19 PM »
As the results are extremely close, the Art Thread will remain pinned. This poll is over.
5546
« on: January 09, 2015, 01:29:57 PM »
There is a noticeable lack of gay in this thread.
5547
« on: January 09, 2015, 11:43:42 AM »
Mass violence and ethnic cleansing in a war torn, corrupt African nation?
99.9% sure this was common knowledge.
5548
« on: January 09, 2015, 11:40:56 AM »
I'll be afk for the a few hours. So no slaughtering me.
5549
« on: January 09, 2015, 11:34:29 AM »
Please note during discussion that these are initial ideas and suggestions, and are no means final plans for future content inclusion to the site.
5550
« on: January 09, 2015, 10:12:25 AM »
Typical Meta post: Joke mocking Islam turns into a 50+ response debate about the nature of religious extremism and free will.
All outside the Serious forum!
A metapost a day keeps the shitposters at bay!
The Metafection is slowly spreading into The Flood. We must begin quarantine procedures, or shitposting as we know it will cease to exist.
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