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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 09:18:26 PM »
8.5/10 speech

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 09:11:00 PM »
Wait, he had to go on food stamps but he can have a car? Bet he has an iPhone too? Because those things are just so necessary. Fuck outta here.

Hes like the kid whos parent drives a mercedes, has new jordans every week, and an iPhone 6 but is still on the free lunch program at school.

Such a poor analogy and excessive stretching...

But it happened every single year of my schooling.

There were iPhone 6's when you were in school?

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 09:09:59 PM »
Yeah makes sense Icy.

I should throw away a marriage, my child, and my 80k job to work at McDonalds to prove a point.......

Not saying you have to throw it away.

You work the same job - you just don't get to spend anything more than the minimum wage would get you.

Hmm. I think I could do it.

But I already have a place to live so it would kind of be cheating.

Stay in your house - you just have to find a way to budget those bills.

Good luck with that.

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 09:09:12 PM »
Wait, he had to go on food stamps but he can have a car? Bet he has an iPhone too? Because those things are just so necessary. Fuck outta here.

Hes like the kid whos parent drives a mercedes, has new jordans every week, and an iPhone 6 but is still on the free lunch program at school.

Such a poor analogy and excessive stretching...

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 09:07:01 PM »
Yeah makes sense Icy.

I should throw away a marriage, my child, and my 80k job to work at McDonalds to prove a point.......

Not saying you have to throw it away.

You work the same job - you just don't get to spend anything more than the minimum wage would get you.

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 09:05:21 PM »
They need to change their lifestyle.

I know damn well I could live in minimum wage if I was just by myself.

Try it. Leave your wife and kids for a few months and spend only what your states minimum wage is.

No thanks. No reason to throw away everything I worked for.

"I could do it"

"So do it"

"Nah, why should I?"

The lack of logic to understand issues you claim to care so much about is astounding.

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 09:03:07 PM »
They need to change their lifestyle.

I know damn well I could live in minimum wage if I was just by myself.

Try it. Leave your wife and kids for a few months and spend only what your states minimum wage is.

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 08:58:21 PM »
No degree should cost 20,000 a year at a basic four year state funded school - which is the standard for most Americans today.
College tuition was pretty much in control until the government started heavily subsidizing it in 1965.

"Great Society" my ass.

I'm aware. Doesn't change my statement.

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 08:50:18 PM »


Seriously - why the hell do I lose a grace period on my loan for interning and preparing myself for after school? That makes absolutely zero goddamn sense.

Thats just how it is. Although I agree with you on this.

I mean, they just see that you are out of school and assume you have a job and shit. Obviously they should give you like a 6 month grace period. This happened to my wife when she took a year off to travel/hangout with me.

Huh. I was expecting more fight.


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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 08:47:02 PM »
No one is forcing you to go to college. There are plenty of successful people that don't go to college.

Not everyone is Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. You hear these dream stories of "Don't go to college, you can the next big CEO!" As fun as that is to believe, for 99% of Americans, that's like telling a six year old "You'll be President!"

A dream, but unlikely

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20k a year really isn't that much when a degree can take your from 40k a year to 80k a year within a job. Its an investment.

It is not just about the cost (Which is way to goddamn high), but the problem with loans, which is going to continue crushing the future generations if left unchecked.

Seriously - why the hell do I lose a grace period on my loan for interning and preparing myself for after school? That makes absolutely zero goddamn sense.

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 08:39:56 PM »
Oh but it is the right word.

Something that the working class pays for so the poor can get free stuff. Handout.

I'd hardly consider my family well off, and I'm not asking for a handout - but I am asking for the outrageous prices for higher university to be reigned in. No degree should cost 20,000 a year at a basic four year state funded school - which is the standard for most Americans today. It is a standard that, if you want a decent paying job, you go to school at least four years, get saddled with debt that hinders you directly after graduation (Seriously, because I am taking a semester off to intern with a company, I have to start paying on my loans the month after graduation. I lose that six month crux for interning), and continues to impact you for years after finishing your degree.

How is continuing to hurt middle and lower class young adults with extreme amounts of student debt, which is the highest amount of debt value in this country, fair and improving in America? Most people aren't asking for free school (At least, not more than the 2 year community colleges) - but there needs to be loan reform, there needs to be reigning in of these prices for school, if you want to continue to see a prospering generation.

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Also, No I'll never cut the "inner city" talk. You may think its racist, but thats whatever. I know the majority of you have never been to/lived in the inner city.

I live five minutes from it.

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 08:31:36 PM »
Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

Its true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist.

Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.

See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.
#shitPSUsays

Some people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.

Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?

Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education.
I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days.

You keep using the word handouts.

I'm not quite sure that's the appropriate word. Also, cut the "Inner city" rhetoric.

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 08:29:56 PM »
Shout out to the Republican (most likely) sitting on her phone.

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 08:25:33 PM »
Decent enough speech - you can tell he's not giving ideas to pass through Congress, but aiming to establish a Democratic platform for the next handful of elections.

I agree with the need for better, more universal childcare.

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The Flood / Re: I want to help with this website.
« on: January 20, 2015, 08:23:34 PM »
Stop being aggressive and leading to fights in Serious?
Or write a review

I really don't see how I'm aggressive at all.

Write a review on what?

Whatever you wish.

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The Flood / Re: I want to help with this website.
« on: January 20, 2015, 08:22:18 PM »
Stop being aggressive and leading to fights in Serious?
Or write a review

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 08:12:49 PM »
Drinking Game: Take a shot every time John Boehner scowls.


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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 08:06:58 PM »
Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

Its true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist.

Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.

I have. But let's see what he says.

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 08:02:03 PM »
Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

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Serious / Re: Official State of the [only] Union [that matters] thread
« on: January 20, 2015, 07:54:52 PM »
Key Issues to Expect:

- Making College more Affordable
- Changing the Tax Code and Rates
- Pushing Mandatory Paid Sick Time

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The Flood / Re: What's one thing that all women are?
« on: January 20, 2015, 07:50:26 PM »
Not sleeping with you.
I think this just might win the award for most genuine likes.

Nah. Camnator's Charlie comment still is #1

5123
Serious / Yemen Rebels storm Presidential Palace of US Backed Government
« on: January 20, 2015, 06:15:13 PM »
Story

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SANAA, Yemen — Shiite insurgents stormed Yemen’s presidential palace and besieged the leader’s residence Tuesday in a show of force that threatened to topple a government that has been a key American ally in the fight against al-Qaeda.

The attack by the Houthi rebel faction — believed to be backed by Iran — marked a major setback for President Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi. While he apparently survived, and was nominally in charge, the rebel leader warned that the offensive “has no ceiling” if the president does not implement plans that include granting more power to the insurgents.

A government collapse could send the country into full-scale civil war, threatening a Syria-like disintegration that many fear could be exploited by radical groups like al-Qaeda. Yemen is home to the terror group’s most powerful branch, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, or AQAP.

Hadi’s weakened position will likely spell trouble for Washington, which has relied heavily on the 69-year-old former general for cooperation in carrying out drone strikes that have targeted the al-Qaeda group. The Houthis have been vocal critics of the U.S. government. But it was not immediately clear whether the rebels would force the Yemeni president to suspend the strikes – since the Houthis also consider al-Qaeda an enemy.

The Houthis, followers of the Zaydi branch of Shiite Islam, are based in the northern Saada province, but swept into the capital in September. They met little resistance from Yemen’s military, which has had a strained relationship with Hadi.

Tuesday’s assault brought Hadi’s government to the brink of collapse.

Yemen’s information minister, Nadia Sakkaf, wrote in an Arabic tweet that the “Yemeni president is being attacked by armed militias that want to overthrow” the government. She wrote from Sanaa that the presidential palace had been under siege since 3 p.m. “even though political talks are still ongoing.”

A government official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of concern for his safety, said that Hadi was pinned down by an assault on his residence, about three miles from the palace.

In recent days, the Houthis have taken control of state-run media outlets and government buildings, including offices of the Yemeni intelligence service.

On Tuesday night, the rebel chief, Abdulmalik Houthi, delivered a long televised statement that stopped short of declaring a change of leadership. He leveled sweeping criticism against Hadi for alleged corruption and for failing to unite a country beset by years of unrest and a growing water shortage.

He demanded talks that could leave Hadi in charge — if barely. “All options are open,” said the rebel leader. He called on the president to implement power-sharing agreements signed by the president and the Houthis in September .

The Houthis have mounted intermittent rebellions against the government since 2004 over what they say is discrimination. Zaydis form nearly a third of Yemen’s population of 24 million, which is majority Sunni Muslim.

Ali Abdullah Saleh, the former president who is also a Zaydi, was able to remain in power for over three decades, in part because of his ability to cultivate ties with Sunni officials and tribal leaders. He was forced out of office in 2012 by a popular uprising inspired by the Arab Spring. His departure led to Hadi winning a single-candidate election for the presidency.

Many in Yemen accuse Saleh of using his ties with the military to undermine the current president. They say he has conspired with the Houthis, who have been steadily advancing southward and now control nine provincial capitals.

In November, the U.N. Security Council imposed sanctions on Saleh and two Houthi leaders for threatening Yemen’s stability.

Hakim Almasmari, a Yemeni journalist, said there was little the Hadi could do to counter the Houthi advances. The president lacks support in the military because of his attempts to remove officers seen as loyal to Saleh, he said.

“Hadi has no loyalty with the army and that’s why you see the Houthis in power today,” Almasmari said, speaking by telephone from Sanaa.

Riad Kahwaji, chief executive of the Dubai-based Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis, warned that the consequences of the current crisis could be severe.

“The world is very much occupied with what’s going on with Iraq and Syria, but we could find ourselves facing another civil war situation in Yemen, but one where there is a power vacuum for extremists,” he said.

The Houthis are opposed by the Sunni tribes, some of whom sympathize with AQAP. The crisis also risks causing the military to splinter into rival factions. Meanwhile, southern separatists have been agitating for several years to undo a 1990 pact that unified North and South Yemen, and may feel emboldened by the growing chaos.

Although the Houthis have battled with al-Qaeda-linked fighters before, the potential unraveling of central authority could offer breathing room for AQAP that could allow them to plan for attacks outside Yemen.

AQAP claimed responsibility for planning and funding the attack earlier this month at the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo, which touched off days of terrorist violence that left 17 people dead.

In Washington, President Obama was monitoring the situation in Yemen, according to his senior adviser, Valerie Jarrett said.

“He obviously is in touch with the folks on the ground, our embassy, he’s getting regular updates from his national security team,” Jarrett told MSNBC.

The Houthi rebels issued seemingly contradictory statements about Tuesday’s violence. Before their leader spoke, a statement on a Houthi-run Web site claimed the group’s fighters took control of the presidential palace to avoid weapons looting amid the chaos. But the move appeared to be far more serious.

Sunni Arab nations, including neighboring Saudi Arabia, accuse the Houthis of being a proxy for Shiite power Iran. The Houthis deny this and say they seek to root out corruption.

Tuesday’s showdown came after days of turbulence. On Saturday, Houthi militants abducted Hadi’s chief of staff, Ahmed Awad bin Mubarak, who has been tasked with helping to draft a new constitution. The current version of the document includes measures that are opposed by the Houthis, such as a proposal to make Yemen a federal entity divided into six states.

The conflict intensified with clashes Monday in which at least nine people were killed. A government official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said the country’s prime minister, Khaled Bahah, had been trapped inside another palace by the Shiite fighters since Monday.

The U.N. Security Council on Tuesday called an emergency meeting after rebels seized the presidential palace, and issued a statement condemning the violence and calling for a ceasefire.

The statement, approved unanimously by the council’s 15 members, “underlined” that Hadi is “the legitimate authority based on election results.”

The Security Council said Yemenis “must stand with President Hadi” and his government in order to “keep the country on track to stability and security.”


Well....that's not good.

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The Flood / Re: who dis
« on: January 20, 2015, 05:54:33 PM »
They'll get it down soon enough.
But that's the big problem here, that's what happened with Kiyo, she got used to it, the staff got used to her.
And Cheat didn't let her go the numerous occasions she should have been, which ended in a crescendo of shitflinging and flames.

I don't think changing the staff frequently is a good thing, but not changing it at all just because you're "comfortable" when things need to be changed, just ends badly.

Well, that is why Cheat didn't just say "They're all Ninjas!" and leave it at that. This is the test for the rest of the staff, and the community, to see how they do and if they'd make a good fit.

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The Flood / Re: who dis
« on: January 20, 2015, 05:37:15 PM »
MODS ARE BAD
Nevermind that these guys got handed mod powers because Cheat felt like it.
We didn't vote on them getting mod powers, we voted on them becoming Monitors.
To be fair, Icy or myself weren't voted on either.

Look how well that turned out.
Yeah, look at how it turned out, the most active person on the site only saw you doing a good job.

"A good job" is subjective. But that is another topic.

Either way, most of the staff team has agreed to giving the Monitor-Ninjas this chance to prove themselves. They're all new to doing this, so of course it'll be bumpy over the next day or so. They are doing well enough - just need to get their confidence in making decisions without coming to the rest of us every time.

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Septagon / Re: So why can't we have porn threads in The Flood?
« on: January 20, 2015, 05:36:25 PM »
the images in spoilers what harm is being done?

Spoilers do not work in Taptatalk, which many of our members do use - that is why the rules don't allow for NSFW responses in a SFW work.


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The Flood / Re: who dis
« on: January 20, 2015, 05:32:10 PM »
*Drops Mic*

Your lack of a gif here disturbs me.
All I had was jumping out windows imdone.jpg

For future use:



But they look like fags

And it's Rocketman. He's our loveable bundle of sticks.

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and the second isn't even moving.

Lies.

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The Flood / Re: who dis
« on: January 20, 2015, 05:31:41 PM »
MODS ARE BAD
Nevermind that these guys got handed mod powers because Cheat felt like it.
We didn't vote on them getting mod powers, we voted on them becoming Monitors.
To be fair, Icy or myself weren't voted on either.

Look how well that turned out.

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The Flood / Re: who dis
« on: January 20, 2015, 05:30:32 PM »

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The Flood / Re: who dis
« on: January 20, 2015, 05:27:28 PM »
*Drops Mic*

Your lack of a gif here disturbs me.


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