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4321
« on: August 30, 2015, 01:09:42 AM »
If nothing is going to be done about the spoiler incident then there is something wrong here. It can be easily fixed, but I don't understand why it isn't being fixed. Hell, I would settle for a friggin lite-ban for accidental and three days for a malicious.
I mean, come on.
As stated earlier, the staff is working on the issue and should have something ready within a day or two.
It's 2am and most of the staff is asleep right now. We can't snap our fingers and make magic.
But you're full of magic, Icy.
Disney magic.
I shit rainbows as a gay man. Good enough?
4322
« on: August 30, 2015, 01:08:22 AM »
If nothing is going to be done about the spoiler incident then there is something wrong here. It can be easily fixed, but I don't understand why it isn't being fixed. Hell, I would settle for a friggin lite-ban for accidental and three days for a malicious.
I mean, come on.
As stated earlier, the staff is working on the issue and should have something ready within a day or two. It's 2am and most of the staff is asleep right now. We can't snap our fingers and make magic.
4323
« on: August 30, 2015, 01:05:22 AM »
Depends on each individual case.
I received no assist in my thread, despite repeatedly being told to kill myself.
I explained multiple times in that thread, that I've been suicidal for years.
"Contact a staff member"
4324
« on: August 30, 2015, 01:01:48 AM »
The staff does attempt to assist people with mental health problems. We have in the past, and if talked to, we will in the future.
Define assist.
Depends on each individual case.
4325
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:59:26 AM »
We are not going to ban a user for one week for spoiling a game - namely because the concept of a spoiler is so damn objective to people.
Spoilers are absolutely objective. If they post something that happens in the game, that's a spoiler. Period.
I'm not asking for permabans on "THE ENDING IS SOOO GOOD GUYS" even though they annoy me.
I'm sorry, if I were to go post right now and say "In Level 4 of Halo 5, you get to use a DMR!", does that HONESTLY impact your impression of the game?
4326
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:57:26 AM »
Tell me what you think is so severe, TBlocks, that it deserves a weeklong ban off the bat.
Well given the situation I would say these spoilers as a good example. It's obvious how much trouble it's caused so quell that by showing it's not tolerated. By letting someone get off with something like this shows weakness and cracks in the rules.
Also, anything the jeopardizes someone's well being or mental health needs severe punishment. The fact that suicidal people can told to kill themselves without consequence is fucking retarded.
The staff does attempt to assist people with mental health problems. We have in the past, and if talked to, we will in the future.
4327
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:55:30 AM »
Well given the situation I would say these spoilers as a good example. It's obvious how much trouble it's caused so quell that by showing it's not tolerated. By letting someone get off with something like this shows weakness and cracks in the rules.
We are not going to ban a user for one week for spoiling a game - namely because the concept of a spoiler is so damn objective to people. In the MGS thread at the heart of this, they want zero discussion on anything beyond speculation. Do we take that concept as a spoiler, something that would limit discussion on any number of games or movies? Spoilers are going to face a punishment, but it will not be a week, or a month, or a permaban as I'm sure someone secretly hopes. I can assure that, and if you don't want to take my word for it, you're more than welcome to wait for Cheat and LC to return.
4328
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:46:45 AM »
Hold another vote if you really wish. Hybrid, non-strict moderation would still win. Give it time. People will eventually see the merits of such a system.
Been 9 months since the last vote and we're doing fine. Let me know when you want us to organize it. nothing you could do on this site would result in a immediate week to month ban And that, fundamentally, is my problem with the system.
holy fuck I agree with Verb.
But that quote from Yutaka is so brutally and horribly showing this system's flaws.
I'm sorry, what?
Well if you can't get a week ban right off the bat for anything then what's the point of following the rules at all?!
Tell me what you think is so severe, TBlocks, that it deserves a weeklong ban off the bat.
4330
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:41:51 AM »
nothing you could do on this site would result in a immediate week to month ban And that, fundamentally, is my problem with the system.
holy fuck I agree with Verb.
But that quote from Yutaka is so brutally and horribly showing this system's flaws.
I'm sorry, what? Sorry Verb, but we aren't hyperinflatting punishments to appease a few people.
We will put in new safeguards against spoilers, but we are not going to ban members for a month. That is not, and never will, be on the table.
We'll see what the community thinks about that.
Hold another vote if you really wish. Hybrid, non-strict moderation would still win.
4331
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:36:47 AM »
Still not worthy of a month long ban. Hell, Noelle & Kinder rarely even got those.
Sorry. Your standards are garbage and need to be revised, then.
Sorry.
Sorry Verb, but we aren't hyperinflatting punishments to appease a few people. We will put in new safeguards against spoilers, but we are not going to ban members for a month. That is not, and never will, be on the table.
4332
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:35:13 AM »
both the gays in straight away
WORLD STAR
We were just shacking up in the back offices. Wanna see
4333
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:33:13 AM »
One month bans for a spoiler will not happen, I can guarantee you that much.
And what if they break more than one rule at a time?
That'll come down to the staff handling the situation.
Even if we were to throw a harassment charge in, you're still looking at no more than a few days, at most.
But why? That barely constitutes a minor nuisance.
Are we that strapped for members that we can't dish out justice when needed?
Posting malicious attacks or repeatedly harassing members will carry penalties ranging from a 10-20% warning for the first offense, to lite-bans of various lengths.
Let's say we gave Gatsby a warning for harassment - it was only his first or second offense if i recall, so his impact from harassment would be small, maybe a day lite-ban.
Spoiling, depending on what we decide,will be a few days at most.
As I said, there is no way we are going to ban people for weeks to a month for posting a spoiler.
he posted 5 big spoilers, and reposted a previous one
Still not worthy of a month long ban. Hell, Noelle & Kinder rarely even got those. Sorry.
4334
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:31:52 AM »
10/10
I'd kiss
4335
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:30:42 AM »
One month bans for a spoiler will not happen, I can guarantee you that much.
And what if they break more than one rule at a time?
That'll come down to the staff handling the situation.
Even if we were to throw a harassment charge in, you're still looking at no more than a few days, at most.
But why? That barely constitutes a minor nuisance.
Are we that strapped for members that we can't dish out justice when needed?
Posting malicious attacks or repeatedly harassing members will carry penalties ranging from a 10-20% warning for the first offense, to lite-bans of various lengths.
Let's say we gave Gatsby a warning for harassment - it was only his first or second offense if i recall, so his impact from harassment would be small, maybe a day lite-ban. Spoiling, depending on what we decide,will be a few days at most. As I said, there is no way we are going to ban people for weeks to a month for posting a spoiler.
4336
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:26:33 AM »
One month bans for a spoiler will not happen, I can guarantee you that much.
And what if they break more than one rule at a time?
That'll come down to the staff handling the situation. Even if we were to throw a harassment charge in, you're still looking at no more than a few days, at most.
4337
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:23:39 AM »
Month long bans for spoiling are unrealistic.
And I disagree with your statement. If the punishment is high enough people won't do it, thus not having to ban.
Not to mention the obvious harassment on gats' part.
Scroll Down to the Strict Rules PunishmentOne month bans for a spoiler will not happen, I can guarantee you that much. No.
The idea that people can apply for thread-specific permissions.
If Cheat chooses to go that route, I imagine the number of people with those permissions will be extremely limited, with a close watch by the staff.
4338
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:18:03 AM »
Reminder that deletion and locking permissions will likely never become a thing due to the potential of abuse, even when trimmed down to members who are less likely to abuse them.
What about my alternative?
Month long bans for spoiling are unrealistic.
4339
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:11:45 AM »
I'm not even asking you to do this.
I'm asking for severe punishments when it does to deter people from doing it
and I'm asking for application of extra thread-permissions
the former being the far lesser request.
We are looking at all our options and seeing what will benefit the forum the most. That's all I can say right now, as the staff will continue discussing plans tomorrow and into Monday, most likely.
4340
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:08:38 AM »
Ayyy papi
4341
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:05:57 AM »
HA! GAYYYYYYYYYYYY
Your lack of gif disturbs me
your lack of purity disturbs the church
I am the church
I saw that.
Excommunication for this heresy
4342
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:05:13 AM »
Way to be a condescending ass.
Simply the truth. If someone really wants to be an ass and spoil something for others, they'll find a way. We'll do what we can to cover all our bases, but we can't see everything, everywhere, 24/7, 365 days a year.
4343
« on: August 30, 2015, 12:00:56 AM »
HA! GAYYYYYYYYYYYY
Your lack of gif disturbs me
your lack of purity disturbs the church
I am the church
4344
« on: August 29, 2015, 11:59:20 PM »
I wasn't here to witness what went on, so I can't definitely say.
So then who should I ask?
PsyBecause if he was going to get banned for a week based on his actions, his goal is accomplished. He ruined the game for people 3 days ahead of it's release. He'll be back on this forum by the time people are completing the main story.
There needs to be a greater deterrence to discourage this shit in the future. I'm sorry, a week is ridiculous.
If you are that concerned over remaining spoiler free, I suggest avoiding Gaming forums in general in the ramp up to your release schedule. We are not the only forum where people decide to be heartless pricks and spoil stories, but even with the upcoming policy, we cannot guarantee that someone won't PM you a spoiler, or hide it in a random thread.
We hope that the policy currently being worked on will limited that as much as possible, but we are never going to be able to tell you 100% "This is a spoiler free, safe zone"
Welcome to the internet.
4345
« on: August 29, 2015, 11:55:04 PM »
HA! GAYYYYYYYYYYYY
Your lack of gif disturbs me
4346
« on: August 29, 2015, 11:50:31 PM »
Depending on the severity, at most a week for a first time.
Humour me.
What would Gats' punishment be if these rules were implemented a few months ago? How long would his ban last?
I wasn't here to witness what went on, so I can't definitely say.
4347
« on: August 29, 2015, 11:47:55 PM »
Have you not been paying attention to anything tonight?
I literally just signed on ten minutes ago and saw that we have NSFW tags now
like a crazy person I assumed that they were for NSFW content
Our apologies. It wasn't reflected clearly that images are still banned.
4348
« on: August 29, 2015, 11:47:24 PM »
Just a note to everyone: Even though Cheat has implemented a "NSFW" tag, this does not mean The Flood will become a Mini-Anarchy. The current rules regarding NSFW material do apply, and they are as followed: NSFW threads (including sex role-plays, sex stories, Cheerio threads, etc.) that do not include photos or videos are allowed in The Flood, so long as the thread is distinguished as being NSFW. Responses in these threads do not need to be in spoiler tags.
NSFW responses in safe-for-work (SFW) threads are not allowed, due to spoiler problems on Taptatalk
Sexual/Shock/Gore images and videos must remain in Anarchy only. Thank ya!
4349
« on: August 29, 2015, 11:45:21 PM »
I know a 2 or 3 month ban might seem ridiculous, but games launch every 2-3 months. Someone could simply do this, get banned, and return just in time to ruin another game.
A ban for spoiling a game won't last that long, at least as a first time offense. Depending on the severity, at most a week for a first time. Of course, with quickly increasing increments.
4350
« on: August 29, 2015, 11:40:09 PM »
Sexual Images are not allowed in The Flood: NSFW threads (including sex role-plays, sex stories, Cheerio threads, etc.) that do not include photos or videos are allowed in The Flood, so long as the thread is distinguished as being NSFW. Responses in these threads do not need to be in spoiler tags.
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