I'm not sure I understand the situation

Get him in line with what? And would ever that be honestly work on someone who has said he only planned to run to prove a point?

Get in line with their ideas of what a Presidential candidate should and shouldn't do (Such as his criticism of Judge Curio), his immigration policies, etc. Trump is an unconventional candidate with no filter, and that scares a lot of Republicans currently in power.

The RNC ignored the petition to force a vote, despite carrying enough support votes, which has led to the Colorado delegates to walk out of the convention.

Story

Cleveland — Republicans looking to unseat Donald Trump as their party’s presidential nominee appear to have the signatures they need to force a full vote on the national convention rules, a move intended to provide a platform for anti-Trump voices and to embarrass the billionaire.

To force that vote, the faction would need signatures from the majority of delegates from 7 states or territories. According to documents provided to POLITICO, they have a majority of signatures from 9: Colorado, Washington state, Utah, Minnesota, Wyoming, Maine, Iowa, Virginia and Washington, D.C.

The group says former New Hampshire Sen. Gordon Humphrey has submitted the signatures to the convention secretary.

Submitting those signatures would force a roll call floor vote from all 2,472 delegates to the convention on the Republican National Committee rules that an 112-member panel voted through last week. Those rules required pledged delegates to vote for the candidate dictated by their state’s primary or caucus results, a system that would allow Trump to clear the number of votes he needs for a nomination. The faction is hoping those rules will be voided and replaced with rules that allow delegates to vote their conscience.

While they’re highly unlikely to win the roll call vote, the Never Trump delegates hope to at least draw attention to their cause and, with a large vote count, prove what they've long claimed: that a significant section of the party still doesn't support the presumptive nominee.

The RNC and Trump campaign have been working to avoid such a vote, hoping to present a united front at the convention.

It's gonna be a very long few days in Ohio.

New poll is up

Will be updated periodically, as party tickets fill up

Locking this thread to create a new General Election poll + hub.

Icy, wanna make a new poll? Or I can do it. Or maybe you'd have better insight on how accurate the current poll is.

So, I removed Sanders from the poll on Tuesday, after he gave his endorsement speech of Clinton. At that time, he had 41% of the vote. Clinton looks like she has gained one vote since then, while Trump has gained 1-2 - that leaves a good 30+ votes uncounted for since Tuesday. A number of these votes are also likely from members who have stopped coming to the site.

If you'd like, I can make a new thread + poll with updated dates (including convention dates, debate dates) and full party tickets (President + VP).

Quote from: Flee on July 16, 2016, 11:13:55 AM

severe measures against those part of the coup

Against the higher ups or everyone who was involved?

I'd imagine many, if not most everyone involved

Erdogan is talking in istanbul but ankara is still being bombed

Not really a surprise - as powerful as a city Istanbul is, the military is focused on taking Ankara. Erdogan will speak from elsewhere to show that neither side has truly consolidated power.

Well, if it gets rid of Erdogan I'm all for it.

More political instability is the last thing the region needs.

Oh shit, for real?

Allegedly. Information is still spotty

JoePa did nothing wrong.

He did nothing right either

It's like you guys forget you're talking about a 20 year old game

Doesn't mean I'm going to cut it some slack.

Gen 4 sucks dick and it's only redeeming quality is that it has a remake of gen 2

Still better than lolGen 1.

Glitchy, overrated designs, and bland story

My guess is Pence.

Christie is too dis-likeable.

Pence isn't exactly the most liked Republican either - after the whole religious freedom law last year, his approval ratings never really improved to what they once were, though they have stagnated in the upper 40's. He's also faced criticism from members of his own party in-state, for his desires to create a state run news organization, his handling off the religious freedom law, and a couple of other issues.

Sure, he's a ton better than Gingrich. But people saying Pence would deliver Trump easy wins in the mid-west are a bit over their heads.

Quote from: Icy on July 13, 2016, 02:07:06 PM

Quote from: PSU on July 13, 2016, 01:25:53 PM

Quote from: Faliz on July 13, 2016, 03:52:58 AM

No chance in hell Trump wins any swing states.  I live in Georgia, so I'm not voting because it doesn't matter, but also both candidates are shit.  That said, if I was in a swing state I'd be inclined to vote Hilary just to not see the orange in office.

I'll bet my house he wins 3 out of 4 of Ohio, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Florida.

Based on?

Quinnipiac University swing state polls.

I swear to god, if I have to say this one more time I'm going to make a stickied thread.

Polling, particularly by individual organizations and schools, done this early is unreliable. Doesn't matter if it's supporting Clinton or Trump, this is the fact.

We've yet to reach the conventions, no ticket has announced their VP, and we're still four months out. Most in-state polls are within 1-3 points for either candidate, and fluctuate quickly between organizations. This is why it's best to use groups like RealClearPolitics or 538, who factor in polls from multiple organizations.

If you want proof of that fluctuation, let's take a look at RCP right now:

Florida: Quinnipiac is the only poll, Trump +3
Ohio: NBC/Marist and Quinnipiac have a tie
Pennsylvania: NBC has Clinton +9, Quinnipiac has Trump +2
Iowa: NBC has Clinton +3, Monmouth has Trump +2

It's also important to factor in whether or not the polls are including just Clinton and Trump, or if Johnson and Stein are included. That does impact the numbers - currently giving Trump a slight edge as well in Pennsylvania and Florida, while Clinton gets a 3 point bump in Ohio.

Dates are also important - these polls were all done before and after the FBI investigation, and before Sanders support of Clinton. Because of this, it's difficult to say whether or not these had impacts on polling.

Once we hit the first week of August (often seen as the official start of the General Election), polling will become more crucial. The party tickets will be finalized and many of the summer and primary events will have officially passed.

Quote from: Icy on July 12, 2016, 01:59:59 PM

Quote from: Varg on July 12, 2016, 01:29:13 PM

Someone tell me I'm not the only one that gets really annoyed at Hillary's half-assed nodding and clapping like she's a souless robot or something.

What would you like her to do? Cartwheels?

yes

10/10