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3091
« on: August 28, 2015, 09:23:16 PM »
There's a solitary tribe on an island can't remember where. But all attempts of contacts have ended in the death of the researchers so the island was declared theirs and no one can go to it. The civilization there hasn't even discovered how fire works yet they have to wait for lightning to strike the island in order to get fire.
3092
« on: August 28, 2015, 08:28:02 PM »
I don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.
do you have a gmail?
Multiple
are you aware all your emails are stored by Google and can be retrieved and read at any time by the NSA and other government organizations right?
Okay it's not like I'm doing anything illegal, emails can be read by anyone. In florida you can request the state to release a complete record of someones emails to the public.
So you'd be okay if someone opened your mailbox and started opening everything and reading it?
All of my emails I literally use for school. If they want to see which classes I'm taking then I don't care.
The contents don't really matter. Its still an invasion of privacy and if you're okay with it that just speaks to how fucked we truly are.
On the internet privacy does not exist, it never has. I understand this but clearly you just learned about it. Everything you do on the internet is recorded by your ISP. It's like buying a phone contract and being baffled when you learn that they track your calls, messages, and location.
3093
« on: August 28, 2015, 08:24:13 PM »
I don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.
do you have a gmail?
Multiple
are you aware all your emails are stored by Google and can be retrieved and read at any time by the NSA and other government organizations right?
Okay it's not like I'm doing anything illegal, emails can be read by anyone. In florida you can request the state to release a complete record of someones emails to the public.
So you'd be okay if someone opened your mailbox and started opening everything and reading it?
All of my emails I literally use for school. If they want to see which classes I'm taking then I don't care.
3094
« on: August 28, 2015, 08:19:44 PM »
I don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.
do you have a gmail?
Multiple
are you aware all your emails are stored by Google and can be retrieved and read at any time by the NSA and other government organizations right?
Okay it's not like I'm doing anything illegal, emails can be read by anyone. In florida you can request the state to release a complete record of someones emails to the public.
3095
« on: August 28, 2015, 08:05:05 PM »
I don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.
do you have a gmail?
Multiple
3096
« on: August 28, 2015, 07:48:25 PM »
Also, I'm surprised that this thread went so well. This topic usually doesn't go that well.
Time for the healthcare thread
3097
« on: August 28, 2015, 07:44:13 PM »
I don't care, if Google wants to know when I browse reddit then sure. It really doesn't effect me it's not like they're stealing my money.
3098
« on: August 28, 2015, 07:42:39 PM »
Honestly, the only way the situation in the US is going to improve is by a gradual change of mind. Implementing such a system straight away would never work. Not only would it always fail at the legislative level, but even if it would get accepted there would be a lot of public resistance and issues with enforcing it. The people just aren't ready for it yet and even though stricter gun control is pretty unavoidable in the future, it'll take some time. This is another social / cultural issue that is pretty different in the US than in the rest of the world and it'll probably take decades for the country to follow suit. It'll almost definitely happen, but not just yet.
That being said, a solution like this probably isn't such a bad idea down the line. The best thing to do now is to slowly implement increasingly strict measures while going along with the general progression of the public's feelings on the matter.
The system that I'd ultimately support boils down to: mandatory criminal background checks, mandatory mental background checks, medical proof of capability of handling a weapon, passing of a theoretical and practical test, different categories of weapons with different requirements, certain conditions for safe storage and handling of the firearm, registration of the firearm and finally (the most controversial one) a proper reason to own a weapon. For public concealed carry the same requirements would apply, but obviously with different and more stringent reasons.
Before applying all of that, I would crack down on flea markets first, because that's where real criminals get their shit from, not from the store.
Did your real criminal friends tell you this
3099
« on: August 28, 2015, 04:33:44 PM »
Its un-American to say we should abolish a freedom that the country was founded upon. Its not like voicing your opinion over healthcare for instance. You're saying that we should throw away a founding principle of the whole country, its part of our culture.
Which abolished freedom are we talking about?
The freedom to own a firearm
I don't think anyone here was talking about getting rid of them entirely though.
And even then, the 2nd Amendment is debated anyway because of how it's interpreted.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Many argue that they are talking about a militia being kept up in order to not let the federal government take over. Others say it is what we have now.
In the end, it was the founding fathers fault for not making it more clear.
My understanding was that all you cucks were arguing for completely ban on firearms. That's what I've been arguing this whole time. I support some moderate regulation probably akin to Das' ideas.
-License to purchase a weapon that must be renewed every 5 years
-All guns must be kept in a safe when not being used
-Random checkups to ensure you're following he law
-Mandatory background checks with mental evaluations when purchasing a weapon and a license
-Ban fully automatic rifles nationwide
-Ban semi-auto rifles but bolt action rifles are fine
-Still allow handguns and shotguns
-Ban open carry
-Concealed carry is only licened to a person if they're in an emergency
-Ban private sales of firearms
-Ban handguns that have a barrel length under 4in
yeah that's way too fucking overbearing and unnecessary
i'm glad i didn't read your OP originally because i almost vomited now that i've actually read it.
it keeps people alive how unnecessary
3100
« on: August 28, 2015, 04:26:19 PM »
Its un-American to say we should abolish a freedom that the country was founded upon. Its not like voicing your opinion over healthcare for instance. You're saying that we should throw away a founding principle of the whole country, its part of our culture.
Which abolished freedom are we talking about?
The freedom to own a firearm
I don't think anyone here was talking about getting rid of them entirely though.
And even then, the 2nd Amendment is debated anyway because of how it's interpreted.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Many argue that they are talking about a militia being kept up in order to not let the federal government take over. Others say it is what we have now.
In the end, it was the founding fathers fault for not making it more clear.
My understanding was that all you cucks were arguing for completely ban on firearms. That's what I've been arguing this whole time. I support some moderate regulation probably akin to Das' ideas.
-License to purchase a weapon that must be renewed every 5 years
-All guns must be kept in a safe when not being used
-Random checkups to ensure you're following he law
-Mandatory background checks with mental evaluations when purchasing a weapon and a license
-Ban fully automatic rifles nationwide
-Ban semi-auto rifles but bolt action rifles are fine
-Still allow handguns and shotguns
-Ban open carry
-Concealed carry is only licened to a person if they're in an emergency
-Ban private sales of firearms
-Ban handguns that have a barrel length under 4in
3101
« on: August 28, 2015, 04:20:07 PM »
the freedom to do what i please as long as its not infringing upon another being's rights
And this is why the U.S is such a clusterfuck compared to Europe. People think they can do whatever they want unless someone stops them.
3102
« on: August 28, 2015, 04:16:34 PM »
Why do people get so butthurt when they're told to fuck off to somewhere that has the laws they want. I don't get it.
Like if I were in Saudi Arabia and my friend wanted to go somewhere he could convert to Christianity, and I told him to fuck off to America or Europe, he'd be like "oh fuck good idea".
But when an American wants European-style healthcare or welfare or gun laws, and I tell him to fuck off to a country with those things instead of trying to force them on me, he gets butthurt. Why?
Clearly you're not proud to be American and you're not proud of our laws or culture. Why not go be a part of one you can actually appreciate?
This post strikes me as a little odd, as an American aren't people allowed to express their voices and wish for change in their country? Isn't that covered by free speech. Surely it's Un-American to tell people to leave the country for voicing their opinion on a matter.
People don't like it when you point out flaws in their beliefs
3103
« on: August 28, 2015, 04:06:45 PM »
To be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.
Maybe because its an unalienable right?
It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.
You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.
A right to self defense? Sure. But a right to own a specific man-made tool?
And how do you suggest we defend ourselves?
I'm genuinely intrigued and not being sarcastic.
Is there somebody out to get you
Oh good point. I'm sure everyone that has gotten killed knew that person was out to kill them. How foolish of them to die even with prior notice.
So much paranoia
If you're living in a place where you feel the need to constantly be close to a gun then maybe you should move.
Not everyone can afford to just up and move, especially inner city families. Why quit one's job and buy a 75k+ home, when you can buy a $750 dollar (or less) gun and some bullets?
Would you rather go through the trouble of finding a new home and job or your entire family killed because you chose the wrong place to settle in. Just because you have a gun does not mean you're instantly safe.
3104
« on: August 28, 2015, 04:04:42 PM »
Oh no how dare someone support personal freedom. What an injustice.
England is factually more free than America.
LOL
The UK abolished slavery in 1833, the U.S didn't until 1865. UK never went through segregation unlike the U.S which lasted until 1965. Which country was advancing human rights first?
3105
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:57:48 PM »
Oh no how dare someone support personal freedom. What an injustice.
Yeah sorry I don't agree with the government controlling every aspect of my life. If you like taking it up the ass from the government then be my guest.
New Zealand is the most free country for human rights and they have much tighter gun laws than the US
>implying human rights is the only aspect of freedom
Sorry I forgot New Zealand doesn't have the American Flag.
3106
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:57:18 PM »
*As I understand it, many people want guns because, naturally, they aren;t comfortable with police mounting .50 cal turrets on humvees. Which I can totally understand. Remove some of that fear, and I imagine some people would probably have less reason for having them. Similarly, improving areas with gang violence problems would alleviate some of it, too.
Police do not have that kind of weaponry. The only "military" equipment they have access to is transport tanks for protecting police in riots, armor, and automatic rifles.
*slight exaggeration*
Still, police are slowly turning into a military force in america. And it's because they're having to stock equipment that's better than what civilians can get so that they can be a police force. If civvies were packing better firepower than the police, then I'd be questioning the use of a police force.
No one outside of the military should have access to military equipment.
It really isn't though, I've been all around the U.S. There aren't police tanks roaming the street or cops patrolling the streets with rifles. U.S cops always carry a handgun, which is different form most European cops.
3107
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:55:19 PM »
Oh no how dare someone support personal freedom. What an injustice.
Yeah sorry I don't agree with the government controlling every aspect of my life. If you like taking it up the ass from the government then be my guest.
New Zealand is the most free country for human rights and they have much tighter gun laws than the US
3108
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:49:03 PM »
To be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.
Maybe because its an unalienable right?
It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.
You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.
A right to self defense? Sure. But a right to own a specific man-made tool?
And how do you suggest we defend ourselves?
I'm genuinely intrigued and not being sarcastic.
Is there somebody out to get you
Oh good point. I'm sure everyone that has gotten killed knew that person was out to kill them. How foolish of them to die even with prior notice.
So much paranoia
If you're living in a place where you feel the need to constantly be close to a gun then maybe you should move.
And maybe you should move if you're living in a place where you don't agree witht the policies set forth by The Constitution.
You can get on a plane right now to Europe with all that gun control. I'm sure you'll enjoy it when you get beheaded by Muslims and don't even have the capabilities to defend yourself.
This is like something straight from Fox News
Like I said you're more than welcome to move to Europe since you idolize it so much.
It's something I want to do and if I was given the option I probably would.
3109
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:46:18 PM »
To be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.
Maybe because its an unalienable right?
It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.
You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.
A right to self defense? Sure. But a right to own a specific man-made tool?
And how do you suggest we defend ourselves?
I'm genuinely intrigued and not being sarcastic.
Is there somebody out to get you
Oh good point. I'm sure everyone that has gotten killed knew that person was out to kill them. How foolish of them to die even with prior notice.
So much paranoia
If you're living in a place where you feel the need to constantly be close to a gun then maybe you should move.
And maybe you should move if you're living in a place where you don't agree witht the policies set forth by The Constitution.
You can get on a plane right now to Europe with all that gun control. I'm sure you'll enjoy it when you get beheaded by Muslims and don't even have the capabilities to defend yourself.
This is like something straight from Fox News
3110
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:43:08 PM »
*As I understand it, many people want guns because, naturally, they aren;t comfortable with police mounting .50 cal turrets on humvees. Which I can totally understand. Remove some of that fear, and I imagine some people would probably have less reason for having them. Similarly, improving areas with gang violence problems would alleviate some of it, too.
Police do not have that kind of weaponry. The only "military" equipment they have access to is transport tanks for protecting police in riots, armor, and automatic rifles.
3111
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:40:25 PM »
To be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.
Maybe because its an unalienable right?
It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.
You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.
A right to self defense? Sure. But a right to own a specific man-made tool?
And how do you suggest we defend ourselves?
I'm genuinely intrigued and not being sarcastic.
Is there somebody out to get you
Oh good point. I'm sure everyone that has gotten killed knew that person was out to kill them. How foolish of them to die even with prior notice.
So much paranoia If you're living in a place where you feel the need to constantly be close to a gun then maybe you should move.
3112
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:34:55 PM »
To be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.
Maybe because its an unalienable right?
It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.
You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.
A right to self defense? Sure. But a right to own a specific man-made tool?
And how do you suggest we defend ourselves?
I'm genuinely intrigued and not being sarcastic.
Is there somebody out to get you
3113
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:27:11 PM »
A lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does.
That's just fact.
Yeah if you're a left wing extremist then they're leagues ahead of us.
Universal healthcare
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
sorry, kiddo. I don't want free handouts :^)
If I hide my stuff from the bank they can't take it when I file for bankruptcy from all my medical bills
3114
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:21:29 PM »
A lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does.
That's just fact.
Yeah if you're a left wing extremist then they're leagues ahead of us.
Universal healthcare
3115
« on: August 28, 2015, 03:19:46 PM »
A lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does. Often times the US is literally "the only first world industrialized western nation" still doing something, or getting it wrong.
That's just fact.
shutup stupid euro go back to your land if you like it so much
3116
« on: August 28, 2015, 12:45:11 PM »
Who gives a shit? If you don't like it, go back to playing the original unedited games.
Who cares if M Night Shnalymang makes an Avatar 2? If you don't like it, just go back to watching the original cartoon.
That's not actually a good comparison since Shamalamadingdongs adaptation is something different entirely.
Something comparable to CEA would be like if Avatar were rereleased with an updated and more modern art style and you could switch back and forth between the two on the fly. Meaning if you don't like the new art style you're capable if watching it in it's original form easily without even having to interrupt your viewing experience.
But then if you didn't like the new art style (that was heavily shown off prior to release) and you don't feel that the original is worth the price they're asking then the question you have to ask is this.
Why did you buy it if you didn't like it? Not giving people money speaks a whole lot louder than complaining on the internet.
Spoiler This doesn't mean you can't express your distaste. Just don't expect that you're entitled to an audience that gives a fuck.
Because it's still a great game. I wouldn't refuse to buy a game because I don't like the way it looks.
3117
« on: August 28, 2015, 11:53:08 AM »
Humans were never said to be Forerunners
Was 343 Guilty Spark's quote to Chief just his Rampancy going overboard, or is there another canon explanation for that?
Humans like the Chief have geas within them. These geas contain ancient shit that connects them to old Forerunners long gone. Like Chakas' connection to the Lord of Admirals and stuff.
A bungie employee even stated that the original intention was that the Forerunners were humans.
yeah, the original intention, something they didn't follow through on.
343 didn't change anything, they continued what bungie wrote.
@HaloArchive I mean, the Precursors never existed before Halo4, at least at Bungie. Much of the fiction in Halo4 is pretty new. Good stuff!
That's from Paul Russel, he was part of the Halo team at Bungie from 1998-2010.
primordial is mentioned in halo 3's terminals.
anyway, we aren't talking about the precursors here. we're talking about how humans were never forerunners.
@HaloArchive Not much to say that isn't known. Forerunners originally were humans, seeding their dna on earth to re-evolve, away from flood.
Yes they were at one time.
-The Halo Rings are perfect for human life, so this hints at what the average Forerunner environment was like
-343GS is confused when Chief didn't know anything about the Halo
-343GS refers to "our lost time" as in the time after the Halos were fired and the Forerunners disappeared
-Only humans can access Forerunner technology
-343Gs even offers Chief forerunner combat skin, if they were different species then why would 343 offer it to him if they aren't anatomically the same?
-343GS asks Chief "Last time to you asked me, would I do it?". 343GS already established that they're the same species so he's talking about them as a whole
Also about the flood. They were originally a Forerunner bio weapon that got loose and turned against the Forerunners. The only way to stop it was to build the Halo rings.
Like Lemon said, that was the original intention but 343i took a different aproach than that. Read the Forerunner books.
Spoiler The precursors evolved both Humanity and Forerunners to hold the Mantle of resposibility (some say from the same species (but that's only speculation at this point) but in the end the Precursors decided they prefered humanity which the Forerunners didnt like and so they drove the Precursors out of the galaxy to near extinction, and became the dominant species in the galaxy. Some of the precursors tried to preserve themselves by becoming a powder but the powder degenerated over time, and when Humans and the Prophets found it it ended up becoming the Flood by infecting people. Humans , while fighting the flood expanded into forerunner territory and began glassing planets which lead to war, at the end of which, humanity was devolved by the foreruners and sent back to earth, untill the Librarian sent the rest to the Ark to survive the Halo activation (Most had been composed by the Didact late in the war to fight the flood.
As for Guilty Spark (He was an ancient Human who helped the Iso Didact) The Iso Didact said that quote to him, and because of it some people suspect John (and possibly other Humans) have the Iso Didact's Geas (Some Assassin's Creed genetic memory mumbo-jumbo, Humans are already known to carry the librarian's Geass) and that is why he identified him as such.
That's what I'm saying but people seem to have a reading comprehension. Humans were originally forerunners as outlined in Halos 1-3. Then the extra fiction was added that negated all of that and made them two separate species. What I'm saying is that I preferred when humans were Forerunners.
3118
« on: August 28, 2015, 11:32:58 AM »
What part of it being a scrapped concept that Bungie never went through with confuses you?
None of that list means they were ever Forerunners, and each one has already been answered.
It's like talking to a brick wall.
It's not a scrapped concept at the time it's how it was intended because it was in the actual game. 15 years later has all of that been answered with new ridiculous fiction. No shit. I am talking about the way it was originally intended back in 2001
3119
« on: August 28, 2015, 11:25:39 AM »
I do not support gun control, because I believe every mentally mature adult deserves the right to own a gun if they wish to. What purpose do fully automatic weapons serve?
And while people who have mental illnesses cannot get guns part of the reason is if mentally ill people were allowed it would cause a lot of fear and paranoia.
The fear is real. I believe there is a dark future ahead of us if things continue to go down this path of control. I believe in a few conspiracies, but to stay on point I don't support total gun control because it is our Constitutional Right to Bear Arms.
I do believe they need to be more thorough with mental stability screening. There are people out there Who have the ability to aim, shoot, and Fire at Will without any remorse. We do need to protect the public from those psychopaths . In order to do this "fairly" someone would have to develop a new type of "standardized code/test" to determine the universal measure of at what mental capacity an adult has to be to own a gun. They would have to legally define the moral code (which differs from person to person) of what behaviors grant the right to to Bear Arms.
That's pretty deep and extensive research.
If we have the right to bear arms in order to protect the right of citizens from the government then why can't I buy a machine gun or a rocket launcher. I have the right to bear arms
3120
« on: August 28, 2015, 11:22:39 AM »
Humans were never said to be Forerunners
Was 343 Guilty Spark's quote to Chief just his Rampancy going overboard, or is there another canon explanation for that?
Humans like the Chief have geas within them. These geas contain ancient shit that connects them to old Forerunners long gone. Like Chakas' connection to the Lord of Admirals and stuff.
A bungie employee even stated that the original intention was that the Forerunners were humans.
yeah, the original intention, something they didn't follow through on.
343 didn't change anything, they continued what bungie wrote.
@HaloArchive I mean, the Precursors never existed before Halo4, at least at Bungie. Much of the fiction in Halo4 is pretty new. Good stuff! That's from Paul Russel, he was part of the Halo team at Bungie from 1998-2010.
primordial is mentioned in halo 3's terminals.
anyway, we aren't talking about the precursors here. we're talking about how humans were never forerunners.
@HaloArchive Not much to say that isn't known. Forerunners originally were humans, seeding their dna on earth to re-evolve, away from flood. Yes they were at one time. -The Halo Rings are perfect for human life, so this hints at what the average Forerunner environment was like -343GS is confused when Chief didn't know anything about the Halo -343GS refers to "our lost time" as in the time after the Halos were fired and the Forerunners disappeared -Only humans can access Forerunner technology -343Gs even offers Chief forerunner combat skin, if they were different species then why would 343 offer it to him if they aren't anatomically the same? -343GS asks Chief "Last time to you asked me, would I do it?". 343GS already established that they're the same species so he's talking about them as a whole Also about the flood. They were originally a Forerunner bio weapon that got loose and turned against the Forerunners. The only way to stop it was to build the Halo rings.
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