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7861
« on: November 07, 2014, 05:40:07 PM »
Remember when canon stated that all Spartans had identical armor?
Pepperidge farm remembers.
It twas a simpler time, indeed. Then we needed customization in MP, and suddenly now all Spartans must have their own personalized armor sets that reflect their personality. Because, that's totally how a real military functions.
This is what I argued at some point as well. Having all these customized spartans was unneccessary, because it it's core, the standard green mark 4, 5, and 6 was standard issue. Usually, when standard issue is used, this means it's the jack of all trades.
And MJLNOR was built in that sense. It performed well in generally all fields, and because of it's compartmentalized simple design, all you had to do was literally attatch the things you needed. In which case you didn't need fucking much because it was already so damn good. Extra cameras, ammunition belts, thruster packs for space eva's and so on.
I was fine and dandy with customizeable MP armour, cause it was fun. But I will never forgive Bungie for starting that fucking trend, and I will bite 343's ass for not dropping the fucking ball with this shit.
Green Spartans, standardized, uniform jack of all trades gear, simple, little attachments because the armour was built to operate in every line of work a spartan would need to in the first fucking place.
Green armor for everyone made sense with the Mk V & VI, but with Mk IV the Spartans had much more time with the armor, so them making personal touches through different paint coats is rational.
The different armor sets were fine, IMO, when they were in moderation.
In Halo 3, each armor set was designed to make the user better in some specific role or situation(and they looked like they would fulfill the roles that they were said to be designed for), but at the cost of not being as jack of all trades. So, it would make sense for some Spartans on certain missions to put, say some EOD attachments onto their armor if they're going on a mission to disarm Innie bombs. However, majority of cases would still have Spartans using the default Mk. VI, as it would probably be more common and if they don't know what they have to deal with they're equally prepared for whatever happens.
In Reach, the armors designed for certain roles were still there, but the reason that almost everything was in prototype allowed more armors to be made. Even still, they all looked like they might've played the part, and it made sense that there would have been more variants early on as the worse designs had yet to be washed out. What I really liked about Reach though was how all the chest armors were still just attachments to the suit, like how Halo 3's were; although most of the chest armors in Reach were added magazine pouches, knives, smoke grenades, ammo, etc., they were still good attachments.
In Halo 4, is really where it went wrong. They tried to make as many different armor sets as they could, and in doing so completely lost sight of what the purpose of them was outside of allowing MP customization. A large majority of Halo 4's armors lack function and purpose, they exist just to exist, not to benefit a specialized role in combat. Not being modular attachments to a base suit like H3's and Reach's armors were makes it seem worse to me. And with how the armors are shown being used by just whoever wants them, without intent to use them for their specific purpose, it's clear 343i just wants different armors for different characters.
My bitching over Halo's art designs never ends, it seems.
Hey believe me I hear you loud and clear. This has bugged me since it started. Like I said, I too enjoyed Halo 3's versions, to some extent. They looked, to some degree what a spartan would wear. But reach started the trend of straying away, and then Halo 4 just fell over.
But, you know what would be fucking cool?
How about, rather than make a character identifiable through armour, why not make an actual character instead?
In that sense, I mean that Spartans are people. And they have their tells, just like everybody else. Halsey knows every Spartan II by heart even with their uniform armour on. She knows their body language, their feelings, everything.
So, why not build really fucking good characters, and give them a personality, through words, and subtle actions that we get to know over time? In that sense, they could use uniform armour, but with different bits and pieces of course to help people initially identify, but the characters would be so strong that people would see past the armour.
And in that, you'd gain a character 10x more loved, more valued, more cared for and concerned about than what Palmer currently provides. Than what all the various members of majestic provide.
Oh, but tis only a pipe dream. But, a man can dream, no?
Well, it seemed like 343i were trying to make Chief have more of a character in the games in Halo 4, but unfortunately that seemed to require ignoring the characters of everyone else that showed up in the Campaign. I hope 343i brings Blue into Halo 5 for good, doesn't do anything stupid with them, and keeps their personalities true, even if their art team is set on making armor like the "Yo dawg, I heard you like optics?" gear Linda has. Then again, I still dream of Reach having sections without any fighting, where you would've just been able to free-roam and talk to members of Noble and bonded with the team. I really wish we could get some quality non-combat time in a Halo game where you learn about characters, listen to your teammates joke or reminisce about past situations, some more SII childhood misadventures, and talk about fellow Spartans passed. God, I think that would make me feel as giddy as I did when I first played through the Halo trilogy as a kid in Grade school. A full-fledged, character-driven campaign that's not just 6-8 hours long, but a serious thing that would take you days to get through. I wouldn't care if they had to release a second half later on like they did with SpOps. Out of curiosity, might I ask what makes you think Reach's armor started straying away?
7862
« on: November 07, 2014, 05:19:27 PM »
If the Infection form in the head pops when you get a head shot on it, then I will throw money at this game right fucking now.
7863
« on: November 07, 2014, 03:28:13 PM »
7864
« on: November 07, 2014, 03:05:29 PM »
>wasting a change.org petition on this bullshit
>being this concerned over 10101010101010s
huh?
Petitions are for like, actual fucking problems. Not petty forum bullshit.
What, you mean something like the US building a fully operational death star?
I still think we could put at least a Star Destroyer together if we tried.
7865
« on: November 07, 2014, 03:00:24 PM »
That man sucks, because women are better.
Get back in the kitchen and make us men some damn sandwiches!
Spoiler I absolutely couldn't resist. So sorry 
That's perfectly fine, I think we can all think of something far worse to say right now. It's tempting though..
7866
« on: November 07, 2014, 02:43:07 PM »
Remember when canon stated that all Spartans had identical armor?
Pepperidge farm remembers.
It twas a simpler time, indeed. Then we needed customization in MP, and suddenly now all Spartans must have their own personalized armor sets that reflect their personality. Because, that's totally how a real military functions.
This is what I argued at some point as well. Having all these customized spartans was unneccessary, because it it's core, the standard green mark 4, 5, and 6 was standard issue. Usually, when standard issue is used, this means it's the jack of all trades.
And MJLNOR was built in that sense. It performed well in generally all fields, and because of it's compartmentalized simple design, all you had to do was literally attatch the things you needed. In which case you didn't need fucking much because it was already so damn good. Extra cameras, ammunition belts, thruster packs for space eva's and so on.
I was fine and dandy with customizeable MP armour, cause it was fun. But I will never forgive Bungie for starting that fucking trend, and I will bite 343's ass for not dropping the fucking ball with this shit.
Green Spartans, standardized, uniform jack of all trades gear, simple, little attachments because the armour was built to operate in every line of work a spartan would need to in the first fucking place.
Green armor for everyone made sense with the Mk V & VI, but with Mk IV the Spartans had much more time with the armor, so them making personal touches through different paint coats is rational. The different armor sets were fine, IMO, when they were in moderation. In Halo 3, each armor set was designed to make the user better in some specific role or situation(and they looked like they would fulfill the roles that they were said to be designed for), but at the cost of not being as jack of all trades. So, it would make sense for some Spartans on certain missions to put, say some EOD attachments onto their armor if they're going on a mission to disarm Innie bombs. However, majority of cases would still have Spartans using the default Mk. VI, as it would probably be more common and if they don't know what they have to deal with they're equally prepared for whatever happens. In Reach, the armors designed for certain roles were still there, but the reason that almost everything was in prototype allowed more armors to be made. Even still, they all looked like they might've played the part, and it made sense that there would have been more variants early on as the worse designs had yet to be washed out. What I really liked about Reach though was how all the chest armors were still just attachments to the suit, like how Halo 3's were; although most of the chest armors in Reach were added magazine pouches, knives, smoke grenades, ammo, etc., they were still good attachments. In Halo 4, is really where it went wrong. They tried to make as many different armor sets as they could, and in doing so completely lost sight of what the purpose of them was outside of allowing MP customization. A large majority of Halo 4's armors lack function and purpose, they exist just to exist, not to benefit a specialized role in combat. Not being modular attachments to a base suit like H3's and Reach's armors were makes it seem worse to me. And with how the armors are shown being used by just whoever wants them, without intent to use them for their specific purpose, it's clear 343i just wants different armors for different characters. My bitching over Halo's art designs never ends, it seems.
7867
« on: November 07, 2014, 02:20:03 PM »
Remember when canon stated that all Spartans had identical armor?
Pepperidge farm remembers.
It twas a simpler time, indeed. Then we needed customization in MP, and suddenly now all Spartans must have their own personalized armor sets that reflect their personality. Because, that's totally how a real military functions.
Actually, if you look at the canonical SPARTANs with different armor, it's suited to their specialization, not their personality.
Fred's specialization of knives is clearly evident, I can see.
Linda, I'm afraid literally cannot see due to having a place to see replaced with a bunch of useless optics.
I didn't know you had the schematics or mechanical understanding of MJOLNIR's visor.
The least you could do, is not look like a total fool by defeating to variants of MJOLNIR with similar designs, or maybe even fancy the notion that those aren't sniper optics.
I know that seeing everything through a camera lens comes with quite given problems. If 343i could come up with actual schematics for the things they design, then I'm certain they wouldn't look like they do right now. I know they aren't optics for using a Sniper Rifle, because those wouldn't help at all with using a Sniper Rifle. The helmet's smart-link to the scope mounted on the firearm is incredibly more useful than scopes mounted on the armor. Yet, there is clearly nothing to be gained by the design of that armor.
7868
« on: November 07, 2014, 12:56:50 AM »
Umm
I might be missing something here but if his favourite bionicle turned out to be a grill, how does that make him gay?
I mean other than the fact that Gali is for fgts and Kopaka is where it's at but still...
._.
It's 4chan, fuck logic.
7869
« on: November 06, 2014, 11:39:46 PM »
Sniper is weird, you'll get it early(in tutorial I think) if you're Hunter, later at some random point if you're not.
Tutorial is same as demo.
probably still grindr.com lvls of grind
7870
« on: November 06, 2014, 11:18:43 PM »
Remember when canon stated that all Spartans had identical armor?
Pepperidge farm remembers.
It twas a simpler time, indeed. Then we needed customization in MP, and suddenly now all Spartans must have their own personalized armor sets that reflect their personality. Because, that's totally how a real military functions.
Actually, if you look at the canonical SPARTANs with different armor, it's suited to their specialization, not their personality.
Fred's specialization of knives is clearly evident, I can see.
Linda, I'm afraid literally cannot see due to having a place to see replaced with a bunch of useless optics.
She sees by looking down a permanent 40x Ballistics scope.
It's like having a permanent FOV of 1.
7871
« on: November 06, 2014, 11:14:20 PM »
Remember when canon stated that all Spartans had identical armor?
Pepperidge farm remembers.
It twas a simpler time, indeed. Then we needed customization in MP, and suddenly now all Spartans must have their own personalized armor sets that reflect their personality. Because, that's totally how a real military functions.
Actually, if you look at the canonical SPARTANs with different armor, it's suited to their specialization, not their personality.
Fred's specialization of knives is clearly evident, I can see. Linda, I'm afraid literally cannot see due to having a place to see replaced with a bunch of useless optics.
7872
« on: November 06, 2014, 11:07:32 PM »
Remember when canon stated that all Spartans had identical armor?
Pepperidge farm remembers.
It twas a simpler time, indeed. Then we needed customization in MP, and suddenly now all Spartans must have their own personalized armor sets that reflect their personality. Because, that's totally how a real military functions.
7873
« on: November 06, 2014, 11:04:12 PM »
>Gen 2 armor right before Battle of Earth.
Permission to wat?
Their armor isn't Gen 2.
So, Songnam decided they'd make special customized Mk. VI armor variants for Linda, Fred, and Kelly in the short time between their arrival and the outbreak of the Battle of Earth? And Linda for some reason needed a suit with a shit-ton of useless optics on it?
I need to do some more research to see what armor they were wearing in that time-frame, but Mk. VI has been in development for a while at that point given how many variants existed in 2552.
Seeing as how I can remember a point in GoO where they slid their visors up or something like that, and Linda doesn't have a visor, and the cover art of GoO shows them wearing default off the lines Mk VI, and I'm pretty sure the novel supports that too, I'd say this is wrong and 343i wanting to shoehorn their artistic designs into the lore.
7874
« on: November 06, 2014, 11:01:54 PM »
Yeah, it can look cool I agree, but in moderation and within the realm of reason. How it was done in Reach with some helmets was alright. However, replacing the standard visor with 2 optics, putting optics on the sides of the head and more optics on top of that is just plain fucking insane. Now, all that's been done is guaranteed that Linda can't look around outside of when she's using a smart-linked scope. Whoever in the art team thought it was a good design needs to be reevaluated.
I did rewatch and I agree that it's kind of ridiculously redundant. At least its not as stupid looking as it could have looked.
*Glares at 343 armor designers*
EDIT: Fucking shit, I double posted >:O
*looks at thread* You didn't double post, unless you mean you posted 2 times in a row, but I don't see how that's a problem. Yeah, they could've thrown some ghille suit-esque mesh on it and gave it a unicorn horn I guess. Other than that, I don't know how worse they could try to make it.
7875
« on: November 06, 2014, 10:51:40 PM »
>Gen 2 armor right before Battle of Earth.
Permission to wat?
Their armor isn't Gen 2.
343 needs to learn how to model Gen 1 legs, because their take on everything knee down looks terrible.
Fun Fact: Gen 1 Leg armor sucks ass because it restricts your movement
>Restricts movement. >Chief has no problem moving at anytime in Halo 2/3 Seems legit.
7876
« on: November 06, 2014, 10:50:13 PM »
Damn, Linda's Armor looks fucking sweet.
Look at all those heavy optics.
Fred's Armor looks cool too, despite the fact that it's apparently based on the Halo 4 era Commando abomination.
You consider H4 Commando to be abomination, but the "yo dawg, I heard you like optics?" armor seems okay? I don't get it.
:C
I like Optic lenses on power armors. It makes them look like badass tactical Spiders.
Spoiler Also I've always had a crush on Linda <3
Yeah, it can look cool I agree, but in moderation and within the realm of reason. How it was done in Reach with some helmets was alright. However, replacing the standard visor with 2 optics, putting optics on the sides of the head and more optics on top of that is just plain fucking insane. Now, all that's been done is guaranteed that Linda can't look around outside of when she's using a smart-linked scope. Whoever in the art team thought it was a good design needs to be reevaluated.
7877
« on: November 06, 2014, 10:46:44 PM »
>Gen 2 armor right before Battle of Earth.
Permission to wat?
Their armor isn't Gen 2.
So, Songnam decided they'd make special customized Mk. VI armor variants for Linda, Fred, and Kelly in the short time between their arrival and the outbreak of the Battle of Earth? And Linda for some reason needed a suit with a shit-ton of useless optics on it?
7878
« on: November 06, 2014, 10:38:32 PM »
Damn, Linda's Armor looks fucking sweet.
Look at all those heavy optics.
Fred's Armor looks cool too, despite the fact that it's apparently based on the Halo 4 era Commando abomination.
You consider H4 Commando to be abomination, but the "yo dawg, I heard you like optics?" armor seems okay? I don't get it.
7879
« on: November 06, 2014, 10:34:30 PM »
>Gen 2 armor right before Battle of Earth.
Permission to wat?
7880
« on: November 06, 2014, 10:26:59 PM »
if you could try to avoid vague answers like "lets just say i am well connected" nomsayin
OP has refused to answer all questions relating to dat green.
7881
« on: November 06, 2014, 10:02:26 PM »
Make me Mythix Reconz title
But do you love bunge with all your <3??
I luv bungay with all my anoose
old buneg or new bongle?
there is only 1 tru bungle
heresy.
Old bunge is best bunge, new bunge a shit.
there is no new bunge, only bungie.
7882
« on: November 06, 2014, 09:42:24 PM »
Make me Mythix Reconz title
But do you love bunge with all your <3??
I luv bungay with all my anoose
old buneg or new bongle?
there is only 1 tru bungle
7883
« on: November 06, 2014, 09:40:36 PM »
Make me Mythix Reconz title
But do you love bunge with all your <3??
I luv bungay with all my anoose
7884
« on: November 06, 2014, 09:31:28 PM »
Can you give me money to undergo building an Iron Man suit?
7885
« on: November 06, 2014, 08:55:58 PM »
I got a warning for saying, "I don't hate anyone because I'm above that".
That fucking website.
7886
« on: November 06, 2014, 08:02:43 PM »
The amount of glockazines is still impressing me.
kek
I lost it when that thing actually looked like it worked.
You have to watch his videos. There's one where he uses spongebob ducktape and has the stock of his AK covered in it. Fun to watch after viewing a whole bunch of serious gun videos
It reminded me of this wonderful innovation.
7887
« on: November 06, 2014, 07:56:11 PM »
The amount of glockazines is still impressing me.
kek
I lost it when that thing actually looked like it worked.
7888
« on: November 06, 2014, 07:52:04 PM »
Make me Mythix Reconz title
7889
« on: November 06, 2014, 07:48:50 PM »
The amount of glockazines is still impressing me.
7890
« on: November 06, 2014, 07:38:24 PM »
Tit and ball are cuss words for Brits? Huh, we actually have to get more creative than that over here.
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