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Gaming / Re: No Man's Sky delay generated death threats
« on: June 02, 2016, 10:32:02 PM »
I'd like to say that I'm surprised the delay caused this kind of reaction, but the hardcore Sony fanbase is absolutely toxic and has a long and vocal history of doing this kind of stuff.

You expressed similar sentiments about the sports game community. Do you have any evidence and/or first-hand experience which would demonstrate a pervading culture of hostility within these gaming communities?

http://egmr.net/2014/08/sony-fanboys-insufferable-double-standards/

https://www.destructoid.com/fact-ps3-fanboys-are-the-worst-149259.phtml

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/692992/sesslers-soapbox-killzone-mailbag/

How does this show that the Sony fanbase is any worse than the Nintendo or the Microsoft fanbase? Don't all fanboys engage in oneupsmanship, zealotry, and petty bickering? I honestly haven't seen anything from the Sony fanboys that I haven't seen from other fanboy groups.

Sure you'll find those types of people in all fanbases, but some community are more conducive to that type of behavior than others and the Sony one is one of those that exhibits this type of behavior far more frequently than others. This is something that's been noted by journalists in this industry as they're frequently the ones who are the recipients of this type of abuse and the common thing they all seem to have in common is that this is that the majority of it is stemming from one kind of community.

I hate to play Devil's advocate for console fanboys, but considering how sketchy gaming publications can be, could they be over-exaggerating in order to push a particular narrative that is convenient for them? I've been weary of the gaming press since the whole autistic shitstorm that was GamerGate which made me, and probably a lot of other people, wonder as to who I should and shouldn't trust. I'm probably being retarded though. 

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Gaming / Re: No Man's Sky delay generated death threats
« on: June 02, 2016, 10:07:44 PM »
I'd like to say that I'm surprised the delay caused this kind of reaction, but the hardcore Sony fanbase is absolutely toxic and has a long and vocal history of doing this kind of stuff.

You expressed similar sentiments about the sports game community. Do you have any evidence and/or first-hand experience which would demonstrate a pervading culture of hostility within these gaming communities?

http://egmr.net/2014/08/sony-fanboys-insufferable-double-standards/

https://www.destructoid.com/fact-ps3-fanboys-are-the-worst-149259.phtml

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/692992/sesslers-soapbox-killzone-mailbag/

How does this show that the Sony fanbase is any worse than the Nintendo or the Microsoft fanbase? Don't all fanboys engage in oneupsmanship, zealotry, and petty bickering? I honestly haven't seen anything from the Sony fanboys that I haven't seen from other fanboy groups.

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Gaming / Re: No Man's Sky delay generated death threats
« on: June 02, 2016, 05:27:16 PM »
I'd like to say that I'm surprised the delay caused this kind of reaction, but the hardcore Sony fanbase is absolutely toxic and has a long and vocal history of doing this kind of stuff.

You expressed similar sentiments about the sports game community. Do you have any evidence and/or first-hand experience which would demonstrate a pervading culture of hostility within these gaming communities?

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Gaming / Re: No Man's Sky delay generated death threats
« on: June 01, 2016, 11:30:50 PM »
I'm always happy when games are delayed. I wish games were delayed more often, actually. Give the developers ALL the time they need to make the best game they can make, and then release it.

I realize it's a business, and people are impatient assholes, but as someone who considers games to be an art form, I can't say I ever find myself that upset when a game I'm looking forward to gets pushed back by a few months.

This is one of those rare times where I'm in absolute agreement with you.

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Gaming / No Man's Sky delay generated death threats
« on: June 01, 2016, 11:25:11 PM »
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/05/no-mans-anger-a-peaceful-games-delay-sparks-online-hate/

Ayy lmao

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As someone who has been immersed in gaming and Internet culture for decades, I'm no stranger to how fans with enflamed passions can spew some heated and at times hateful rhetoric about their favorite properties online. Random Internet users can and do generate huge volumes of uncivil discussion, harassment, and sometimes even threats over everything from Mass Effect 3's ending to arguments over review scores.

Still, a portion of the reaction to news of the No Man's Sky delay in recent days seems fundamentally different in a way that has been troubling me.

The basic news being discussed here is pretty boring by game industry standards. No Man's Sky, which developer Hello Games has been targeting for a June 2016 release since last October, was first rumored and then confirmed to be delayed to early August over the past week.

This kind of short-term delay happens all the time in the game industry, but you wouldn't know it from the way some people apparently reacted online. "I have received loads of death threats this week," Hello Games' founder Sean Murray tweeted on Saturday. "But don't worry, Hello Games now looks like the house from Home Alone" (subsequent tweets suggested Murray was handling the threats with good humor, at least).

The extreme response extended to the mere reporting of the delay. Kotaku's Jason Schreier, who first wrote about the delay as a rumor, shared a message he received from a Twitter user threatening to "come by, say hi to you, and fuck you up... sounds like you have a death wish. We will find you. Be afraid human, we are coming for you." Elsewhere on the No Man's Sky subreddit, users did some questionable sleuthing to cast doubt on the report and whipped each other into a frothing ire over what turned out to be a reporter accurately reporting the news.

There's some risk in over-analyzing and inflating the importance of these kinds of random Internet responses. Nutpicking the proportionally small number of No Man's Sky fans that reacted to the delay with irrational levels of hatred risks making the entire community around the game look bad for no good reason. These threats are from a small subset of the small subset of people commenting on the game online, who are a small subset of those reading about the game online, who are a small subset of those who will eventually play the game.
Simply writing about these responses at all risks giving attention to many people who are likely trolls just looking to provoke a response. The people apologizing to and defending Kotaku and Hello Games certainly don't receive nearly as much attention.

And, as Bithell Games' Alexander Sliwinski points out on Twitter, this sort of thing isn't entirely new to the industry. "Why is getting death threats in games suddenly news?" he asks. "Are we just openly talking about it now? This has been going on for over a decade." Then again, if this is a common problem in game development circles, it's one that developers have largely been silent about publicly, likely for a variety of understandable reasons. That all suggests it's a problem we should be doing more to bring to light in the rare instances it does become public.

In any case, there's something about this specific overreaction from certain fans that has been unsettling me all weekend. Part of it is that No Man's Sky isn't the type of game you'd usually expect to attract this kind of frenzied reaction. Not to over generalize, but there tends to be a correlation between a game's level of macho, adrenaline-fueled violence and the amount of... let's politely say "heated debate" that it attracts online.

No Man's Sky has some shooty bits, but it's overwhelmingly a game about the wonder of exploring a near-infinite cosmos and the joy of discovering new flora and fauna generated by a wondrous generative algorithm. The fact that even this game can inspire this level of blind Internet rage is surprising to say the least. (The fact that No Man's Sky is launching on PS4 and PC but not Xbox One—and is thus invariably wrapped up in the Internet anger machine that is the never-ending console wars—could have something to do with the situation).

There's also something a bit troubling about what generated this response in the first place. As I said earlier, I'm used to Internet commenters getting worked up about various aspects of their favorite piece of entertainment. Even when I don't support the level of unreasonable bile that seeps into the discourse (bile that Devin Faraci analyzed quite well over at Birth Movies Death), I can at least identify somewhat with fans getting so wrapped up in a story that they develop a feeling of ownership over the narrative.

These reactions to the No Man's Sky delay, though, go well past feeling aggrieved over narrative decisions and get into a sense of aggrievement over minor business decisions about release timing. I've seen similar overheated reactions to announcements of a game's pricing or platform exclusivity in the past, but not over a six-week difference in release date.

One Reddit user tried to explain, if not defend, the level of personal outrage the delay has generated in some fans. "A lot of us have been looking forward to this game for years," he writes. "When we got less than a month away from the release date and we get a delay, it was pretty crushing news to a lot of us. Those of us that took time off work have to HOPE that we can reschedule. Those of us that have kids that were also excited for this game have to explain to them that they must wait until school starts."

Yes, sure, that does sound inconvenient. It does not sound like the kind of thing that should reasonably be expected to generate death threats. The fact that this needs to be said at all and that the state of Internet discourse has coarsened to this point is a problem worth noting, even if there are no easy answers.

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The Flood / Re: DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY WIFE'S DAUGHTER EVER AGAIN
« on: June 01, 2016, 07:27:46 PM »
It's sad how this kid is almost exactly the same whiny insecure loser he was on b.net years and years ago.
mordo? yeah, i know, he's always been a whiny cunt

i mean, who could possibly give one single fuck about race in 2016

i mean

come on
If people (you) didn't actually care about race, nobody would be shoehorning some gorilla face bitch into a story where the character was previously white.
cool, he even thinks not caring about race is the same thing as caring about race

make sure that your brain is donated to science when you die in two years

i don't think biologists have encountered this level of retardation before

You make what is otherwise a decent site awful. Please, stop posting. There are plenty of feminist and anti-natalist circle jerks on the internet where you can take turns giving blowjobs with the members and moderators.

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The Flood / Re: DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY WIFE'S DAUGHTER EVER AGAIN
« on: June 01, 2016, 07:05:26 PM »
You didn't "fuck him in the ass" whatsoever. You just placed words in his mouth and claimed yourself the victor.
he didn't even respond, because he was that dismantled

i own mordo's life

You seriously need a new hobby. Screaming into the abyss on here all day can't be good for your mental health.

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The Flood / Re: DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY WIFE'S DAUGHTER EVER AGAIN
« on: June 01, 2016, 06:58:30 PM »
look how hard i fucked you in the ass

nobody will ever fuck you as hard as me, ever

how do you feel about that

You didn't "fuck him in the ass" whatsoever. You just placed words in his mouth and claimed yourself the victor.

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The Flood / Re: DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY WIFE'S DAUGHTER EVER AGAIN
« on: June 01, 2016, 02:59:21 PM »
Verb ITT


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The Flood / Re: >tfw Red Skull is redpilled af
« on: May 31, 2016, 09:02:59 PM »


Every day we continue to stray from God's light.

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The Flood / Re: Did Roman kill himself?
« on: May 29, 2016, 06:33:25 PM »
Who do you guys think will be the first to go? People I have lined up are

Roman Gladiator
Second Class
Decimator Omega (if he hasn't already smh)

I chat with him on Discord and Skype so he's fine. He just came to an epiphany when I compared him to Chris Chan by saying that he's kind of like our version of him. I don't know if he'll ever decide to come back or not. If his history of incessantly leaving and returning is any indicator then I'll give it another month before he starts posting again.

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The Flood / STARE INTO THE FOUL ABYSS
« on: May 28, 2016, 08:14:19 AM »

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The Flood / Re: Niggers tongue my anus
« on: May 28, 2016, 08:04:00 AM »
CIS pls stay

Unleash your ancestral urges into my anus.

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Serious / Re: Who is going to win the General Election?
« on: May 28, 2016, 04:51:35 AM »
YouTube

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The Flood / Niggers tongue my anus
« on: May 28, 2016, 04:37:03 AM »
Kthxbai

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The Flood / Re: How long do you take in the shower?
« on: May 23, 2016, 01:12:06 AM »
About 30 minutes.

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The Flood / Re: Post here and I'll describe why I hate you
« on: May 11, 2016, 09:13:50 PM »
Give it to me hard and rough, Verb daddy

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The Flood / Re: Post here and I'll describe why I hate you
« on: May 11, 2016, 09:02:45 PM »
I know you hate me a lot, so go ahead and shoot.

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The Flood / Re: Wait solonoid is in jail?
« on: May 11, 2016, 08:49:35 PM »
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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The Flood / Re: Wait solonoid is in jail?
« on: May 11, 2016, 08:46:24 PM »
YouTube


NO

BRAKES

ON

THIS

TRAIN

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The Flood / Re: Wait solonoid is in jail?
« on: May 11, 2016, 08:37:09 PM »
YouTube


♂MY LIFE'S DREAM COME TRUE FOR ME WE WILL GO TO SEX PARTY♂

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The Flood / Re: Wait solonoid is in jail?
« on: May 11, 2016, 08:32:48 PM »
ARE YOU FEELING IT NOW MR. KRABS?

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The Flood / Re: Wait solonoid is in jail?
« on: May 11, 2016, 08:11:31 PM »
I take it you go around changing your big values you think are right based on who else believes them, then

Idiots sometimes believe correct things and geniuses sometimes believe idiotic things. Welcome to earth.
Midget isn't an idiot. He's a troll. He has bad opinions on purpose.

You're being had.
Aren't you only assuming that he isn't an idiot because you know he likes to get reactions out of people? I've never seen him say anything lucid or intelligent. There's no proof that he might not be retarded so why should we assume that he isn't? What if he really is as fucking stupid as he pretends to be and he just also happens to be a genuine jackass?

He's fairly intelligent when he's talking about his profession as an EMT.

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The Flood / Re: Wait solonoid is in jail?
« on: May 11, 2016, 08:02:34 PM »
Let's all pitch in to bail him out

Somebody set up a GoFundMe.

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The Flood / Re: Wait solonoid is in jail?
« on: May 11, 2016, 07:11:51 PM »
No choice you inflict upon yourself can be bad if you sincerely enjoy it, and don't regret it.
Not if there are objectively better options out there. Which there are.

Personal enjoyment or happiness is the shittiest possible method of gauging quality of life.
YouTube

Have I ever told you that you're the most braindead user on the website?

You've said that to many people. Now how is happiness and personal enjoyment not a good measure of quality of life?

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The Flood / Re: Wait solonoid is in jail?
« on: May 11, 2016, 07:05:36 PM »
No choice you inflict upon yourself can be bad if you sincerely enjoy it, and don't regret it.
Not if there are objectively better options out there. Which there are.

Personal enjoyment or happiness is the shittiest possible method of gauging quality of life.

YouTube

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The Flood / Re: Wait solonoid is in jail?
« on: May 11, 2016, 07:00:08 PM »
lets be honest, if he didnt spend a chunk of his money on drugs and the like, hed have some money so he wouldnt need to do such a thing
he spent a miniscule amount of money on drugs

remember when he bought a $10 bag of shrooms and everyone freaked out and said he should've found a $10 hotel room or some shit?
i mean, if you're in a bad financial situation, spending $10 on drugs IS kinda a chunk of your money
not really....

$10 for a night free of stress and responsibles is going to do better for your emotional situation than a $10 meal from McDonalds
i dont know about you, but id rather not starve to death than feeling good knowing ill die if i dont buy that meal.
if he was literally starving to death, he would've bought food
if he was smart, saving money and buying necessities would be a priority over any type of drug
what are you not fucking understanding here

$10 cannot buy you shelter
$10 cannot buy you a job
$10 cannot buy you a long term source of food

if Sol was on the brink of starvation or dehydration, he would've used the $10 to buy food or water. His issue was a place to live

you're the kind of person who thinks homeless people shouldn't be allowed to buy alcohol. Fuck off.
They shouldn't buy alcohol.
Scumbag detected. If a homeless man has a spare five dollar bill, what the fuck is that going to buy him? If he was hungry, he'd buy food with it. If he's not, he'd buy booze with it. You think your life is so hard? Try being a homeless person. They deserve any escape they can get.
lmao

"Just let them make shitty choices that will keep them homeless and in a cycle of poverty you fucking scumbag sheesh"
Yeah, exactly. See what I just said to Verbatim. It's his choice, you have no grounds to say it was a "bad" one if the person the choice is affecting doesn't think it's bad.

Is this a shitty attempt at trolling?  Because dear God I hope it is.

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Serious / Re: The UK is one of the worst places on Earth.
« on: May 11, 2016, 06:28:15 PM »
Reminds of this video.

YouTube


People need to stop getting offended over trivial shit. And fuck the UK government for doing this. What's that UK? You wanna arrest me now for saying that? Well you can't, because murrica, bitch!
Wow, you really do get all your political beliefs from cancerous YouTube channels like TAA.

What's wrong with TJ?

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Serious / Re: US Attorney General on the North Carolina bill
« on: May 10, 2016, 10:44:57 PM »
Identity politics can still get pretty bad though. Horseshoe theory is relevant in this type of situation.
Can you explain more specifically?

I'm more just talking about stuff like this. If that's an accurate example of identity politics at work.

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3573220/Racist-black-Oxford-student-international-hate-figure-refusing-tip-Caucasian-waitress-refuses-defend-actions-white-media.html
oh
Does identity politics include stuff like this? I always thought the "identity" was like "gender identity".

I believe so.

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Serious / Re: US Attorney General on the North Carolina bill
« on: May 10, 2016, 10:40:14 PM »
Identity politics can still get pretty bad though. Horseshoe theory is relevant in this type of situation.
Can you explain more specifically?

I'm more just talking about stuff like this. If that's an accurate example of identity politics at work.

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3573220/Racist-black-Oxford-student-international-hate-figure-refusing-tip-Caucasian-waitress-refuses-defend-actions-white-media.html

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