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Serious / Cruz caves in and decides to endorse Trump
« on: September 23, 2016, 02:46:04 PM »
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-rival-cruz-to-throw-support-to-gop-nominee-228584

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Multiple sources close to Ted Cruz say the Texas senator is expected indicate his support for Donald Trump as soon as Friday.

It is unclear whether Cruz will say only that he is voting for the Republican nominee, as other lawmakers have done, or offer a more full-throated endorsement, but the idea of throwing any support to Trump is controversial within Cruzworld.

“If he announces he endorses, it destroys his political brand,” said someone who had worked for Cruz's campaign.

Steve Deace, a prominent conservative Iowa radio host who was a major Cruz backer, also tweeted Friday that the senator would endorse Trump. A spokeswoman for Cruz did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

Trump’s former primary foe has so far refused to back him, going so far as to tell Republicans to “vote your conscience” at the Republican National Convention. Since then, Cruz, who may face a primary challenge in 2018, has come under mounting pressure to get behind Trump, though many Cruz loyalists see an endorsement as unacceptable.

Asked about a possible endorsement, Jason Johnson, Cruz’s chief strategist on the campaign, responded with a photo of himself, with his hand over his face.

He finally broke and decided to jump on the Trump bandwagon.

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The Flood / Re: Mental disorders you'd rather kill yourself than have
« on: September 23, 2016, 07:02:07 AM »
This

fucking

thread

lmao

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The Flood / Re: Hey kids
« on: September 21, 2016, 10:34:36 AM »
I've never had a wet dream.

You missed out. For me, it was the first time I ever really had amazing sex in a wet dream, I was only 13 too.

Nobody wanted to know about this. Please don't tell us about your cuckolding dreams.

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The Flood / Re: mirror selfie thread
« on: September 20, 2016, 10:37:16 PM »
What the fuck is wrong with you cucks?

I don't look anything like SecondClass.
you're a version of me that traded ugliness for autism

I swear to god if there's ever and I mean ever a cure for fucking any kind of Autism, I would take it in a heartbeat, I don't even care if its unstable and ends up killing me, I'd want to get rid of it forever.

I never chose to have autism. Autism chose me.

wat?

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Serious / Re: Trump and racism
« on: September 20, 2016, 08:02:47 PM »

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Serious / Re: Trump and racism
« on: September 20, 2016, 07:59:19 PM »
Kill everyone who isn't a Jew.

YouTube

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Serious / Re: Trump and racism
« on: September 20, 2016, 07:56:04 PM »
I like how this thread turned into a retarded shitfest. I should start threads about controversial topics more often.

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Serious / Austrian economics?
« on: September 19, 2016, 03:15:27 PM »
This school is very much outside the mainstream of economics and has seemingly generated a lot of controversy. Moreover, it seems to be a favorite among the fringes of right-wing libertarians. Judging from what I've read, it seems to take a somewhat similar approach to the anti-positivists of the social sciences with its rejection of macroeconomic analysis and the application of statistics. I'd love to hear some input on the subject.

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Serious / Trump and racism
« on: September 18, 2016, 08:09:12 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Steve Downes Dead At 59
« on: September 17, 2016, 07:55:26 PM »
GET IN THE FUCKING PLUG.DJ ROOM

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The Flood / GET IN HERE
« on: September 17, 2016, 07:15:13 PM »
https://plug.dj/m-a-d-b-o-i-s

For old times' sake

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The Flood / Re: Anyone Up For A Plug Sesh
« on: September 17, 2016, 07:04:16 PM »
bump for justice

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http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-russia-foreign-religion-crackdown-498551


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On a recent Sunday morning, Donald Ossewaarde, a Baptist preacher from the United States, hosted an informal Bible study group at his home in Oryol, a small city 225 miles south of Moscow. Most of the dozen or so people who attended had been coming to Ossewaarde’s weekly gatherings for years, and they were looking forward to an hour of Christian song, prayer and discussion.

But as the lesson began, three police officers walked into Ossewaarde’s house. They waited silently until the lesson was over, then started questioning everyone, and they eventually insisted that Ossewaarde and his wife, Ruth, accompany them to the local police station. There, the police told Ossewaarde that a woman had filed a complaint against him, saying she was outraged that “foreign religious cultists” were allowed to operate in the city.

At a hastily arranged court hearing just hours after his arrest, a judge found Ossewaarde guilty of illegal missionary work and fined him 40,000 rubles (about $600). For Ossewaarde, a fluent Russian speaker who has lived in Oryol since 2002, the court’s ruling was shocking. “We had been perfectly free all these years to give out literature, to talk to people on the street,” he says. “People have either been friendly or indifferent.”

Not anymore. In July, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a new law that cracks down on missionary work and evangelism. Among other things, it mandates that people share their religious beliefs only at state-registered places of worship. Critics say the law, which was approved as part of a swath of “anti-extremism and terrorism” legislation, contradicts Russia’s post-Soviet constitution, which guarantees citizens and foreigners the right to disseminate their religious beliefs. “Soviet history shows us how many people of different faiths have been persecuted for spreading the word of God,” wrote Sergei Ryakhovsky, head of the Protestant Churches of Russia, in an open letter to Putin. “This law brings us back to that shameful past.”

The law comes at a time when the Kremlin is pushing a major anti-Western propaganda campaign, from accusing the U.S. and U.K. of plotting to overthrow Putin to boasting about Moscow’s ability to reduce the U.S. to “radioactive ash.” And so far, the consequences of the law have exclusively affected members of minority “foreign” religions—the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Protestants with Baptist, Pentecostal and Seventh-day Adventist roots. Believers of these religions have frequent problems gaining state permission for churches and temples, and they often have little choice but to gather informally at the homes of their congregants.

The Russian Orthodox Church, a powerful Kremlin ally that has traditionally been hostile to minority faiths, has not been affected, and Orthodox officials have dismissed criticism of the law, saying it does not prevent believers from sharing their faith. Russia’s Muslims, who make up some 10 percent of the population, seem divided on the legislation, with regional muftis split on whether it’s a gross violation of human rights or a necessary step in the fight against Islamic extremism.

Ossewaarde believes it’s the former. Two days after his conviction, he received a warning from his court-imposed lawyer, Andrey Butenko; if he and his wife chose to stay in Russia, the lawyer said, they could be in danger. Concerned that Butenko’s warning was an indirect message from the authorities, Ruth Ossewaarde flew to the United States on August 22. Donald Ossewaarde remained in Oryol to appeal his conviction.

Butenko tells Newsweek he was not acting on anyone’s orders and says his warning was inspired by genuine concern for the couple’s well-being. “All religions except traditional Russian faiths are being slowly forced out of Russia,” he says. “The state will do whatever it thinks it needs to do in order to achieve this. This is how the security forces work. If they need to, they could do something bad to him.”

The Ossewaardes are not the only ones who have been affected by the crackdown. In late July, police officers detained Ebenezer Tuah, a student from Ghana, as he carried out a baptism at a swimming pool in Tver, a small city near Moscow. Tuah and a group of Ghanese nationals had rented the pool for their Protestant group for the day, and there were no Russian citizens present. The officers handcuffed Tuah and kept him overnight in a police station. The authorities later fined him 50,000 rubles (about $780) for “conducting religious rites and ceremonies” without the necessary documents. (He declined to comment on the matter.)

“They treated him like a common criminal,” says Konstantin Andreev, a lawyer at the Slavic Center for Law and Justice, which has filed appeals against the convictions of both Ossewaarde and Tuah, as well as others charged under the new law.

Andreev, who is also a Protestant preacher, believes the legislation is part of a broader crackdown on civil liberties that has occurred since Putin became president for the third time, amid mass protests, in 2012. He says the courts and police officers enforcing the law are doing so with a flawed understanding of it, as the law technically concerns only members of organized religious groups who are attempting to convert those who do not share their faith. In reality, critics say, the authorities can label almost any religious activities not carried out in state-registered churches as missionary work or evangelism.

“This law has been joyfully welcomed by nationalist-minded people, who say at last we have a means of fighting against those who are not Russian Orthodox Christians and do not share our ideas,” Andreev says.

Mormons in particular have experienced problems since the law came into effect. In August, Russian authorities deported six Mormon missionaries for allegedly violating compulsory registration requirements. Although the deportations were not directly linked to the law on sharing beliefs, analysts say the expulsions are part of a new intolerance for foreign religions in Russia. “Lawmakers have decided that missionaries are dangerous people,” says Roman Lunkin, a religion analyst at the Russian Academy of Sciences in Moscow. “They have been stripped of the right to the presumption of innocence.”

Some members of the Russian Orthodox Church have also criticized the legislation. “This law plainly contradicts the Gospels,” wrote Karina Chernyak, who runs an Orthodox Christian youth club in Moscow, in an article for the Sova Center, a nonprofit that monitors religion and Russian society. “It is the mission of every Christian to go and teach his or her belief to others. In many ways, this is the essence of belief.”

Back in Oryol, Ossewaarde is preparing for his appeal, which is set for September 19. And for now, he has shuttered his Bible study group. A Russian-language notice on the door of his home reads: “Dear friends! Until further notice, there will be no meetings here. There is an official assertion that these activities are illegal. Sorry for the inconvenience. Donald.”

Considering how much the Russian Orthodox Church and Putin cozy up to one another, it doesn't surprise me that they'd be doing stuff like this.

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The Flood / Re: Everyone please help me out
« on: September 16, 2016, 08:05:12 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Everyone please help me out
« on: September 16, 2016, 08:02:54 PM »
Nobody cares about some shitty reality TV show contest.

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The Flood / Re: How much sleep do you get on average?
« on: September 16, 2016, 08:00:18 PM »
It varies.

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Gaming / Re: "It's impossible to have a worst game of all time nowadays."
« on: September 16, 2016, 07:59:00 PM »
Here's your worst game of all time.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/242800/

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The Flood / Re: Not really a contest, but Jimmy John's vs Subway
« on: September 15, 2016, 04:31:36 PM »
Jimmy John's is objectively better than Subway.

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The Flood / Re: Calling all new members
« on: September 14, 2016, 11:06:11 PM »
Yes I'm a noob

How did you find this place exactly?

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Serious / Re: Judges attempt to block oil pipeline
« on: September 11, 2016, 04:03:23 PM »
I wonder how different the situation would be if this line was going through white people land like a town or a group of peoples yards.
Pretty massive. One need only look at Flint Michigan to see how slow they are to respond to minorities.

It's really the opposite. Pipelines routinely run through towns and private property by way of eminent domain; the only thing really holding this pipeline back is the issue of its interference with a First Nation burial ground. The minority status is exactly what's controversial about the pipeline.

Would this pipeline destroy any archaeological evidence or risk contaminating tribal water supplies?

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I know you'll have an opinion on me

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Serious / Re: Judges attempt to block oil pipeline
« on: September 09, 2016, 10:59:55 PM »
I'm friends with a few guys in that protest. The dogs weren't sanctioned by the police. The company called in attack dog training companies to do it. They just unleashed the dogs, until someone realized that this is 2016 and every cell phone was recording it.

They already bulldozed something like 3 burial grounds, without notice. The tribes didn't get to reinter their dead. The graves were just dug through.

On top of it all, the type of pipeline being built isn't the safest, and it goes dead center over the aquifer that supplies the tribes water.

Yeah, this is ugly

If what you're saying is true then this is infuriating and indefensible. I hope the tribe can see some justice for whatever damage was done to humanity's cultural heritage and to the safety of their community.

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Serious / Re: Judges attempt to block oil pipeline
« on: September 09, 2016, 09:47:43 PM »
This has been covering my news feed for at least a week now. Basically the oil company is bulldozing through a reservation and areas the locals consider to he sacred land. Hundreds of protesters showed up, and the oil company responded with force that included unleashing attack dogs on pregnant women and kids. Then the oil company basically just kept going.

So a lot of people are pretty pissed off about it.

Are there any good arguments in favor of the oil pipeline? If there's another side to the story, it would be good to hear it. 

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Serious / Judges attempt to block oil pipeline
« on: September 09, 2016, 09:21:20 PM »
http://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-rule-today-dakota-access-pipeline-case-protests/story?id=41973080

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A federal judge denied a Native American tribe's request to temporarily block construction of the four-state Dakota Access oil pipeline, which has sparked heated protests. But the U.S. Justice Department responded to the ruling by announcing steps to protect — for now — a lake along the construction route.

Judge James Boasberg of the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., decided that there is not enough evidence to support the argument that building the pipeline would harm the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, which sued to stop the pipeline's construction.

Boasberg's ruling showed sympathy for the tribe's history but disagreed with the lawsuit's contention that the Army Corps of Engineers erred in its granting permits for the pipeline.

"Aware of the indignities visited upon the tribe over the last centuries, the court scrutinizes the permitting process here with particular care," Boasberg wrote. "Having done so, the court must nonetheless conclude that the tribe has not demonstrated that an injunction is warranted here." A status conference for the case is scheduled for Sept. 16.

The Departments of Justice, the Interior and the Army weighed in immediately after the ruling's release with an announcement that the Corps will at least temporarily halt authorization for construction of the pipeline around Lake Oahe while it reviews its decisions regarding the large reservoir. The government requested that Dakota Access, the Texas-based company building the pipeline, voluntarily pause construction within 20 miles of Lake Oahe.

The federal government also announced that the case highlights the need to consider "nationwide reform with respect to considering tribes' views on these types of infrastructure projects."

A representative for Dakota Access declined requests for comment on the ruling and the government's announcement.

The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe welcomed the government's announcement, calling it a "game changer."

"The federal court ruled against the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe today, but in a stunning move, three federal agencies have blocked the pipeline at Lake Oahe, pending a thorough review and reconsideration of the process," the tribe said in a statement on its Facebook page

"This federal statement is a game changer for the tribe, and we are acting immediately on our legal options, including filing an appeal and a temporary injunction to force [Dakota Access] to stop construction," the statement continued.

Lake Oahe is environmentally and culturally important to the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, and the pipeline would cross under the lake, which is just upstream from the tribe's reservation, according to the tribe's complaint in the lawsuit.

"The tribe relies on the waters of Lake Oahe for drinking water, irrigation, fishing and recreation and to carry out cultural and religious practices. The public water supply for the tribe, which provides drinking water for thousands of people, is located a few miles downstream of the proposed pipeline crossing route."

"Additionally, the cultural and religious significance of these waters cannot be overstated," the tribe states in its court complaint. "Construction of the pipeline ... and building and burying the pipeline would destroy burial grounds, sacred sites and historically significant areas on either side of Lake Oahe," the complaint states.

The planned 1,172-mile Dakota Access pipeline will run from North Dakota and South Dakota into Iowa and Illinois.

The tribe argues in its lawsuit that the Army Corps of Engineers failed to adequately consult it before granting permits that allowed construction of the pipeline, which began earlier this summer about a half-mile north of the tribe's reservation in North Dakota.

The pipeline company and the Corps argue in court documents that they followed a standard review process.

Conflict over the pipeline escalated last weekend when private security workers for Dakota Access and protesters against the project clashed at a North Dakota construction site.

Before the announcement of the ruling, Standing Rock Sioux Tribe Chairman David Archambault II said that no matter the outcome, opponents of the pipeline should remain peaceful.

"We call upon all water protectors to greet any decision with peace and order. Even if the outcome of the court’s ruling is not in our favor, we will continue to explore every lawful option and fight against the construction of the pipeline," Archambault said.

"Any act of violence hurts our cause and is not welcome here," he said.

In anticipation of possible protests after the ruling, North Dakota's governor called on the state's National Guard to help law enforcement, it said in a statement today.

"Personnel from the North Dakota National Guard have been called upon by the governor to support law enforcement and augment public safety efforts, in light of recent activity with the Dakota Access pipeline protest," the statement said. "The guard members will serve in administrative capacities and assist in providing security at traffic information points. The guardsmen will not be going to the actual protest site."

Dakota Access says on its website that it expects the pipeline to transport about 470,000 barrels of crude oil every day from production areas in North Dakota’s Bakken and Three Forks production areas through South Dakota, Iowa and into Illinois, as well as create thousands of construction jobs and generate millions of dollars in tax revenue for those states.

I honestly have no idea what to think of this whole debacle. Can someone give me a rundown? I'd love some input on the subject.

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Serious / Re: Political lobbying 101
« on: September 08, 2016, 06:08:50 PM »
I hope for the future when issues like this can be solved through violent corporate warfare instead of lawsuits.

That's called Anarcho-Capitalism.

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Serious / Re: Climate Change has become more dire than ever
« on: September 06, 2016, 09:01:49 PM »
I am 99% convinced we'll be extinct within a century.

How do you think human civilization will be able to survive whatever challenges it may face within our near-future?

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The Flood / Re: What are you drinking tonight - special treat
« on: September 06, 2016, 08:35:03 PM »
I don't drink anymore.

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