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The Flood / Re: Vocaroo thread
« on: July 14, 2015, 08:13:56 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Vocaroo thread
« on: July 14, 2015, 08:10:16 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Psychology Q&A
« on: July 14, 2015, 08:00:13 PM »
Am I really beyond help?

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The Flood / Re: C rated movies you liked
« on: July 14, 2015, 07:39:19 PM »

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The Flood / Sooo about the suicide squad film...
« on: July 14, 2015, 07:30:16 PM »
Why didn't they just use the same shit from tron they used to make young Jeff Bridges, to bring back Heath Ledger as Joker?

Nobody else can outclass him, and he could be voiced by Mark Hamill.

Everybody wins.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:34:42 PM »
How do you feel about the patriot act?
Indifferent.

I have nothing to hide, so I have nothing to fear.
sheep

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 11:07:28 PM »
i'm glad you see where i'm coming from

that's really all i ask of anyone, if they disagree with me--i want people to at least see where i'm coming from
then at least i know that i'm communicating my message properly
How do you feel about the patriot act?

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The Flood / Re: Ants, Bees, Wasps, and Hornets vs Humanity
« on: July 12, 2015, 11:01:56 PM »
(playing Devil's advocate)
Take into consideration that these insects have competence. That means they know their own capabilities and more than likely they will strike when they feel ready. Hornets and yellow jackets are pretty heavy duty and produce giant hives. They more warriorish. Hornets may also be able to carry army ants on their backs meaning they can air drop those nasty asses on their enemies.

Lets look at rationing and food. You have honey bees, which make massive amounts of honey. In facts, they make more honey than necessary at times. Then there are the leafcutters who make fungus food farms. This is a secondary food source. The mass production would allow the armies to be well fed around the world. This means that honey bees and the leafcutter workforce will be kept behind the scenes.

I'll go on about their military numbers and strategies their new found competence would possibly allow soon.
We have napalm.

gg
Unless the insects, with their competence, create a contraption that allows them to use flight craft. If you don't think its possible for them to do so... Refer to this nightmare.
Spoiler

At this scale, they could create a contraption that allows them to pilot an aircraft (it may require a large of pilots, but the swarms of ant-totting wasps/hornets would be absolutely horrifying.

Napalm wouldn't matter when an insect infested aircraft:
a) flies overhead and releases the swarm. And if jets are involved, then they're actually hurting their own troops because shooting at a swarm of insects is as worthful as shooting peas falling out of the sky with a machine gun. From a distance.
b)the plane crashes into the troop and still unleashes the swarm. Flood-style.

It's a viable situation. And scary too.
It would take an eternity to construct something like that.

Not to mention that we still have missiles and flamethrowers.
Release a swarm my ass, flamethrowers.
Which is why they can prep till they feel ready. If they're brilliant enough, they could research means of fireproofing themselves.

Also option b (crashing plane) could be used via smashing said plane into the flamethrower guys. And don't disregard the ants. They could create tunnels and next thing you know you have wasps and hornets erupting out of the ground underneath you.
We're equipped to take out enemy humans.

We won't have any trouble taking out bees in little fireproof suits, or putting down pesticide to keep ants out of the ground.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:57:18 PM »
Sometimes I think Verby represents the extreme good here. All of his views are made to prevent and eventually beat evil, all justified for a greater good, but extreme.

Not an insult at all, just an observation I've made. :3
He's for the extinction of humanity.

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The Flood / Re: Ants, Bees, Wasps, and Hornets vs Humanity
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:51:19 PM »
(playing Devil's advocate)
Take into consideration that these insects have competence. That means they know their own capabilities and more than likely they will strike when they feel ready. Hornets and yellow jackets are pretty heavy duty and produce giant hives. They more warriorish. Hornets may also be able to carry army ants on their backs meaning they can air drop those nasty asses on their enemies.

Lets look at rationing and food. You have honey bees, which make massive amounts of honey. In facts, they make more honey than necessary at times. Then there are the leafcutters who make fungus food farms. This is a secondary food source. The mass production would allow the armies to be well fed around the world. This means that honey bees and the leafcutter workforce will be kept behind the scenes.

I'll go on about their military numbers and strategies their new found competence would possibly allow soon.
We have napalm.

gg
Unless the insects, with their competence, create a contraption that allows them to use flight craft. If you don't think its possible for them to do so... Refer to this nightmare.
Spoiler

At this scale, they could create a contraption that allows them to pilot an aircraft (it may require a large of pilots, but the swarms of ant-totting wasps/hornets would be absolutely horrifying.

Napalm wouldn't matter when an insect infested aircraft:
a) flies overhead and releases the swarm. And if jets are involved, then they're actually hurting their own troops because shooting at a swarm of insects is as worthful as shooting peas falling out of the sky with a machine gun. From a distance.
b)the plane crashes into the troop and still unleashes the swarm. Flood-style.

It's a viable situation. And scary too.
It would take an eternity to construct something like that.

Not to mention that we still have missiles and flamethrowers.
Release a swarm my ass, flamethrowers.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:45:29 PM »
It wasn't hard to pick out the only important part of your one line post.

I didn't have to disregard anything.
Except for the fact that you blatantly disregard the fact that I don't care about the invisible incentives that make you do mundane things.

If someone needs an incentive to do productive work, then they suck.
Correction, you think you don't care.

You're in denial.

People who do volunteer work are doing it because it makes them feel good to help others, that good feeling is their incentive.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:40:01 PM »
And way to disregard everything you didn't have a counter-argument for... again.
You too!
It wasn't hard to pick out the only important part of your one line post.

I didn't have to disregard anything.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:38:31 PM »
]I think that putting the weed in the brownies made it food.

FLOUR IS NOT FOOD GUYS
I can put a fork into a brownie.

FORKS ARE NOW FOOD
Everything is food if you're brave enough.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:34:25 PM »
that is not weed

those are brownies

just because the brownies contain weed doesn't make weed food

i can put anything in food
doesn't make it food
I think that putting the weed in the brownies made it food.

FLOUR IS NOT FOOD GUYS

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:33:40 PM »
Quote
If you had no incentive to work, you wouldn't.
being a productive member of society

that's all the incentive anyone should ever need
Yeah, let me know how how that's working for people who don't give a fuck.

And way to disregard everything you didn't have a counter-argument for... again.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:31:00 PM »
i mean, damn

that's one for the books

"weed is food"

amazing

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:30:00 PM »
There are plenty of people who know how you think better than you do.

There's a whole science behind it.
and most of it is absolute hogwash
Also,

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:28:08 PM »
There are plenty of people who know how you think better than you do.

There's a whole science behind it.
and most of it is absolute hogwash

either way, you're ignoring the fact that i'm not even talking about those kinds of incentives

and you cut out the part where i stated that the incentives typically have to be demanded
and i don't demand anything in return for doing the right thing
You're ignoring the fact that every action you take is fuelled by an incentive.
It doesn't matter if you're talking about physical incentives, the way you feel about something doesn't change what it is, especially if you weren't the one who brought it up (I brought up incentives).

If you had no incentive to work, you wouldn't.

Therefore, if you advocate a living cost of $0, you advocate inactivity and anti-utilitarianism, which are hallmarks of junkie society.

Tell me, have you ever had a job?
I remember once you said you hadn't, but I may be wrong.

If not, then you are an unproductive member of society and anti-utilitarian to those around you, and certainly don't deserve to demand that the pastimes of others be more utilitarian.

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The Flood / Re: Ants, Bees, Wasps, and Hornets vs Humanity
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:19:20 PM »
(playing Devil's advocate)
Take into consideration that these insects have competence. That means they know their own capabilities and more than likely they will strike when they feel ready. Hornets and yellow jackets are pretty heavy duty and produce giant hives. They more warriorish. Hornets may also be able to carry army ants on their backs meaning they can air drop those nasty asses on their enemies.

Lets look at rationing and food. You have honey bees, which make massive amounts of honey. In facts, they make more honey than necessary at times. Then there are the leafcutters who make fungus food farms. This is a secondary food source. The mass production would allow the armies to be well fed around the world. This means that honey bees and the leafcutter workforce will be kept behind the scenes.

I'll go on about their military numbers and strategies their new found competence would possibly allow soon.
We have napalm.

gg

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:16:43 PM »
Of course it does, otherwise you wouldn't be a vegan.
i'm glad you know how i think better than i do
There are plenty of people who know how you think better than you do.

There's a whole science behind it.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:13:35 PM »
What you get in return is moral satisfaction; the knowledge that you did the right thing.
being a vegan gives me no satisfaction whatsoever, actually
Of course it does, otherwise you wouldn't be a vegan.

If you were to eat meat and you thought you were doing the wrong thing, you would lose moral satisfaction, and immediately know it.

If nothing else, your incentive would be this:
You will not feel bad because of your immorality, so long as you adhere to this code of conduct.

Classic religious tactics, because morals are a church trap.

Everything you do is incentive driven, whether you like the idea of it or not.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:07:30 PM »
Because it's right?
duh

when i say incentive, i'm obviously talking about quid pro quo type garbage
"i won't do the right thing unless i get something in return"

THAT'S someone who wants an incentive

i don't
What you get in return is moral satisfaction; the knowledge that you did the right thing.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:03:23 PM »
a thing that motivates or encourages one to do something.

What motivates or encourages you to do the right thing instead of the wrong thing?
nothing

i just do the right thing
Because it's right?

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 10:00:21 PM »
If you take two different things you can do, and compare them in terms of right and wrong, and you choose the one you deem to be right, then your ethics are your incentive.
i don't think you know what incentive means
in·cen·tive
inˈsen(t)iv/
noun
a thing that motivates or encourages one to do something.

What motivates or encourages you to do the right thing instead of the wrong thing?

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 09:57:52 PM »
So your incentive to go to the fridge is to get food, and your incentive to want food is because you know you need it to survive ie: not dying.

Every action is based off of an incentive, nobody does anything just because.
i never denied this

that doesn't make it an intelligent or good system

i don't need an incentive to do the right thing, for example (ethically speaking)
i just do it
Your incentive to do something that's more ethical than something else is the notion that it's more ethical.

If you take two different things you can do, and compare them in terms of right and wrong, and you choose the one you deem to be right, then your ethics are your incentive.

It's the system logic is based off of, of course it's intelligent.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 09:35:08 PM »
What's your incentive for walking over to the fridge?
food

but i don't need any incentives

i just know, logically, that it contains food needed for my health and survival
So your incentive to go to the fridge is to get food, and your incentive to want food is because you know you need it to survive ie: not dying.

Every action is based off of an incentive, nobody does anything just because.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 09:27:24 PM »
You know verb, you seem awfully concerned with people living productive lives for someone who wants to enable non-productivity by reducing the cost of living to nothing.

On one hand you want to remove the incentive for being productive, and on the other you insist that people lead productive lives and hold utilitarian hobbies.
people shouldn't need incentives

for anything

just because they do, doesn't mean they should
What's your incentive for walking over to the fridge?

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 09:16:12 PM »
You know verb, you seem awfully concerned with people living productive lives for someone who wants to enable non-productivity by reducing the cost of living to nothing.

On one hand you want to remove the incentive for being productive, and on the other you insist that people lead productive lives and hold utilitarian hobbies.

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 09:07:36 PM »
Name ANY (ethical) recreational activity that doesn't involve any kind of drug.

The pleasure derived from that activity is going have more utility than any recreational drug.
Ethics are a church scam, and what use is extra utility if I don't want or need it?

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The Flood / Re: when you first did drugs
« on: July 12, 2015, 08:50:12 PM »
Okay. Argue it. And explain why recreational drugs in particular are bad, but any other chemical that you ingest or are exposed to that causes it is good (i.e., food, beverages, scents, etc.).
you need food to live
you can live a full life without ever smoking a single joint
a perfectly cooked steak
Oh but he is giving you shit.

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