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I move for the immediate reinstatement of membership of Kinder.

All in favor?

The kids are all wrong.
That's all I ever really learned.

Quote from: Fishcakes on March 28, 2017, 08:20:48 PM

Ultimately it's a fun flick, as long as you don't take it too seriously.

Yeah but that's the problem

So many subpar movies come out and fandoms just say "yeah, but it was kinda fun tho"

You should be demanding that the movies you see be good, especially when they have the gall to wipe out dozens of other previously canonical stories beloved by fans like Dark Forces and cash in on nostalgia and fan service instead of truly original, compelling storytelling.

Phantom Menace was also fun, told a unique story, had better characters (with some exceptions), but is still universally considered a bad movie.

I don't see what the problem is as long as I enjoyed the film.

That's the point of movies.
Am I upset about Dark Forces?
Certainly.
Does it mean I enjoyed watching the movie a couple times any less?
Not really.

I don't want to be moved by every film I watch, that's why we have action movies.

The fact that it's a Star Wars movie doesn't mean I need to expect more of it, after all, it's only a name.

Quote from: FatherlyNick on March 29, 2017, 03:46:46 AM

Quote from: Fishcakes on March 28, 2017, 02:46:16 PM

Quote from: gats on March 28, 2017, 08:58:29 AM

Mental illness isn't real, surround yourself with people, get a job, find a purpose and those thoughts will go away.

I have friends, a job, and all the rest.

I'm not depressed, I don't have "bad thoughts".
I have auditory, and occasionally visual, hallucinations and unstable, uncontrollable moods.

Have you tried medicinal Maria Juana?

Horrible recommendation for a schizophrenic

eh not really

Weed calms my nerves and I've never even heard a whisper when I'm smoking.

I just can't smoke anymore, I'm off all illegal drugs right now.

time for you to go back to the crazy house

he's in on it guys

Quote from: Fishcakes on March 28, 2017, 10:16:23 PM

Alright listen here you little shits.

TFU was fucking great and you can all eat a dick.

It's shit and your opinions are shit

You're shit and your face is shit.

Quote from: Fishcakes on March 28, 2017, 10:07:16 PM

Quote from: Luciana on March 28, 2017, 09:54:48 PM

Quote from: Fishcakes on March 28, 2017, 08:20:48 PM

•It ruined TFU

How? They're so unrelated.

Totally fucked over the existence of Galen Marek.

I'll have to watch it again and make exact notes of how and when, been a while since I've seen it.

Uh

They stated before TFA came out that all the Star Wars stuff EU/video game was non canon unless specified otherwise. Besides, Galen Marek was an OP character that didn't quite fit in.

Yeah I know, but before R1 I was holding out hope they'd declare it canon.

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Quote from: Töqi on March 27, 2017, 08:58:20 AM

It was done very poorly in Rogue One and was a lazy attempt to use an already established villain as a crutch.

I disagree, the plot of Rogue One was very closely entangled with Tarkin's grab for power and plot to replace the senate through direct fear.

If he hadn't been in the film, his shadow would've been looming over it so heavily we would only feel like something was missing.

The film itself was, unironically, a mistake. His relevance to the plot changes nothing; we learned nothing in Rogue One that we didn't already know about him from ANH, and the film fails to decide who the villain is. Vader is already established and does almost nothing but give fan service at the end; Tarkin is also established, and has almost no bearing on the plot except to fill that hole that you describe; Krennic neatly fits into the role of Generic Ambitious Bad Guy rendered impotent by the two most significant villains in the series.

Really, it's kind of disappointing how well-received Rogue One was. It had a neat space battle, but it was so full of bad writing, flat characters, and told an utterly pointless story. Jyn could have been an incredibly compelling character, but they literally cut out her entire arc.

I hated Rogue One for many reasons:
•It ruined Rogue Squadron
•It ruined Dark Forces
•It was an obvious cash grab
•It ruined TFU
•It failed to take into account the very canon fact the Death Star plans were complete before the clone wars
•It oversimplified a complicated problem
And others.

It did the things it did well though, even if they did pack too much into too little time.
It was clear to me that the villain was Director Krennic, and while he was under the thumbs of Vader and Tarkin, he was motivated to antagonise our heroes by himself. The fact that there were greater powers than he bearing down on him was simply a plot device to generate sympathy for the villain, and try to fix the fact the this complicated problem had been so oversimplified. In the moment it worked, only in review the flaw comes to light.

Ultimately it's a fun flick, as long as you don't take it too seriously.

The Geonosians had only designed the superstructure, the weapon was only a mere concept.
Basically the Geonosians' contribution was "what if there was a big spherical space station that had some sort of powerful weapon? Let's make a detailed concept schematic."

Then when the republic takes Geonosis, Poggle The Lesser gets the Geonosians to build some of the superstructure (Geonosians will kill each other if they have no tasks to complete), in exchange for some autonomy.
Later the Empire sprays pesticide on Geonosis and kills all the bugs.

Also TFU's story is basically a bad fanfic and I don't understand why people like it.

They didn't explain that in the film, the idea was that the plans were complete.

If there was more exposition on it in a book, then that isn't canon.

Literally all that was shown in AoTC was a hologram of the superstructure.

It was explained in a book, Catalyst, which released in November and is canon.

Gay

I know a "sovereign citizen" and he doesn't have a driver's license because he thinks he doesn't need one.
Then when he was talking about "muh rights" I had to explain to him that if he renounced his citizenship then he has none.

He was mad.

I honestly thought they hopped over the uncanny valley perfectly. He was there; he didn't look "off" at all.

If I cared more, I could take a closer inspection, but why would I do that when I don't closely inspect Tarkin's face normally?

I honestly felt, and I've said it before, he looked too lifelike.

The character was conveyed so perfectly I thought to myself there was no way a real actor could do this.
If I hadn't known Peter Cushing is dead though, I absolutely would not have known it was CGI, I would simply have been blown away by unbelievably good acting.

ender?

6th grade not 6 years old

Mental illness isn't real, surround yourself with people, get a job, find a purpose and those thoughts will go away.

I have friends, a job, and all the rest.

I'm not depressed, I don't have "bad thoughts".
I have auditory, and occasionally visual, hallucinations and unstable, uncontrollable moods.

what do you suffer from?

borderline disorder and paranoid schizophrenia, according to the litany of dcotors who have seen me about it