See, it doesn't really matter whether or not you believe the accusations - there is evidence that it happened, as publically detailed in media outlets, and no counter evidence has been presented to disprove the claim. You don't get to claim something is true/false, offer no evidence to counter, and then continue to parrot said belief as if you've determined it to be fact.

I can't speak to Sean Hannity's case as I've yet to read any details about it. But as I said before - O'Reilly and Fox News did this to themselves by attempting to cover up crimes. This is not a Freedom of Speech violation, it never was and never will be because the government is not stepping in saying what Fox News can say.

This is advertisers and the public disassociating themselves with a guy who did shit, lied about it and paid victims to cover it up. That isn't a free speech violation, that's the beauty of having options in who you watch and support. Unless you have evidence that this is some conspiracy to take down a network (Which still WOULD NOT be a violation of freedom of speech), then this is simply a glorified opinion of yours and not a fact.

I never claimed free speech was being violated, I said they don't respect free speech.

There's a difference.

As for the other, I'm not getting into an analytical discussion about it or trying to prove to you Bill O'Reilly is innocent, because I've looked at the facts and made up my mind and you've looked at the fact and made up yours.

My point is, you don't have to take a person's rights from them to demonstrate a basic lack of respect for human rights.

The assault against people who voice dissent is, bottom line, without regard for free speech.
Obviously people are free to have no respect for someone's right to voice their opinion, and they're free to have no respect for people's wishes to hear what other people have to say.

The fact that we permit their disrespect doesn't make them less fascist, it just makes us better democrats.

I meant a summary of what you're talking about....

And what did I ever do to you?

Quote from: SecondClass on April 29, 2017, 10:50:22 PM

really normal guy but someone i dislike regardless

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Quote from: Ramona on April 29, 2017, 10:26:59 PM

Verb shouldn't have sewed the seeds of self doubt in the first place.

you're saying it's my fault that he doesn't have the self-control to keep his word

Yeah everything bad is your fault.

Quote from: Ramona on April 29, 2017, 04:31:11 PM

Bill O'Reilly's show didn't get cancelled because people didn't want to listen to him, it got cancelled because somebody ran a slanderous mudraking campaign against him and very probably falsified claims in order to demonize him, not before his public, but before his producers, who were too afraid for their own reputations by association.

First off, neither O'Reilly nor his lawyers have provided evidence to defend himself or disprove the claims that he and Fox News paid settlements to the tune of $13 million to five different individuals. They aren't even attempting to disprove that at this point because it's been confirmed by The New York Times.

Their issue at this point is that a left-wing media group decided to bring attention to the fact the network has allowed this guy to remain in his position despite have to settle five times because of claims of sexual harassment and verbal abuse - ironic, considering the image of the news outlet standing for "Conservative, family values".

So yes, he wasn't yanked because of free speech. He was yanked because he acted inappropriately, tried to cover it up, and lost the network money when advertisers decided they didn't want to be connected to him. So I'm sure exactly sure why you're deciding to paint him with the brush stroke of innocence and victimizing him - he fucked himself in the ass on this one.

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That's not dissent, that's a targeted silencing.

So hold on a second. The left-wing media group is the person in the wrong here because they uncovered O'Reilly/Fox News' unethical cover-up and decided to run with it?

quite simply, I don't believe any of it ever happened

Just like I still don't believe Bill Cosby raped 50 women.

Maybe one or two, but the rest is sheer opportunism.

The fact that immediately afterward Hannity was targeted, and the use of similar tactics against the President, who really is guilty of nothing more than speaking crudely in a private setting, but was also accused of secual misconduct for only nothing to come of it.

It's obvious the Sean Hannity is right.
The left is trying to systematically wipe out dissent by means of career assassination.

There was once a time in this country when even if you didn't care for what a man had to say, we were willing to die for his right to say it.

I may think Fox News is nothing but right wing propaganda, but I can absolutely admit when they're not being given a fair shake.

Daily reminder that the value of a person's opinion in a democracy is valued not by any iron clad grid of ethics, instead simply by the number of people who agree.

but I still expect you to fix it cheat

Mobile error, clicking on the banner on the flood forum specifically has just started resulting in a redirect to this address.

http://sep7agon.net/cgi-bin/redirect.ha

No such page exists, and I have been unable to replicate the error on desktop, but it certainly keeps happening on mobile.

Do you mean you got it in the MAIL?

80 pages left. A masterpiece.

I still don't really get the point.

Sure, the stories are beautiful and say a lot about the nature of human relationships, and I get that the whole bit is reincarnation and how two souls touch time and again over the course of many lifetimes, but what really is the point?

What, philisophically, was I supposed to take away from Cloud Atlas?

I don't like to call it the moral of the story, because a moral is too simple a concept. But really, what is the point of the book?

how'd you get it out of a post

You slut post more in the flood.

Eh, the Grim Reaper is usually characterized more as a servant of nature and the steward of souls than the arbiter of death.

Your death will not come by him, if you believe in that sort of thing.

When an apple is ready it falls from the tree anyway. Why not be plucked by the silent usher and cradled on to heaven than fall to the ground and rot?

That's why a reaper. He does not make death, just as a farmer does not make grain. Nature makes death. The Reaper merely harvests the crop when it is time to be harvested.

Not bad tbh.

What the hell I just saw this while scrolling through my suggestions. What are the chances?

Well folks, that clinches it.

Prehistoric is verb.

Quote from: Fishcakes on April 28, 2017, 08:01:52 PM

Quote from: oss on April 28, 2017, 07:58:52 PM

I thought fishcakes was fruit for a while >.>

Nope, just your friendly neighborhood solonoid.

Fruitcakes

;-;

rip froot

stolen from us too young