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Serious / Re: Ultimate idealism
« on: January 27, 2015, 07:27:16 PM »
The ultimate ideal of human flourishing is merely a necessary one in order for any conception of morality to cognitively make sense. Whether or not we place different stock in different methods of reaching such a position is irrelevant to the existence of moral facts.

For instance, anti-natalism isn't about the negation of flourishing. It's about the impossibility of flourishing, and the best form of flourishing being the complete negation of life. For instance, zero net flourishing is mathematically superior to negative-one-hundred flourishing.
And is morality something we should follow or something that exists? Do we need to follow morality? Does morality need to exist?
Morality is merely a guideline on how one ought to exist. There's a distinction between how people should act, and then how they act. A lot of scientists and men of considerable intelligence have behaved in ways which could be considered immoral, even if they thought they were doing the right thing.

I'm not sure what you're driving at by asking if it 'exists' either. It's clearly not a material entity; it's a set of propositions that relate to the well-being of agents which can experience the world, which should inform our behaviour.
What exactly happens if we encounter another intelligent species? Would morality then change to account how humans should behave towards them? Or will it always be about humans rather than consciousness?

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Serious / Re: Ultimate idealism
« on: January 27, 2015, 07:20:03 PM »
The ultimate ideal of human flourishing is merely a necessary one in order for any conception of morality to cognitively make sense. Whether or not we place different stock in different methods of reaching such a position is irrelevant to the existence of moral facts.

For instance, anti-natalism isn't about the negation of flourishing. It's about the impossibility of flourishing, and the best form of flourishing being the complete negation of life. For instance, zero net flourishing is mathematically superior to negative-one-hundred flourishing.
And is morality something we should follow or something that exists? Do we need to follow morality? Does morality need to exist?

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Serious / Ultimate idealism
« on: January 27, 2015, 07:07:46 PM »
You see Meta, while I agree that there are objective truths that some things contribute to human flourishing more so than others, you're still not going to get everyone to agree that human flourishing is the ultimate ideal our species ought to achieve. Anti-natalism, for example, seeks to achieve as little suffering as possible for all species. Another view point might pay more attention to individualism and say that one's own collection of power is the ultimate ideal.

So in case I'm not on the same page as you and you understand morality in a completely different fashion you can disregard the rest of this post and help explain it (for the 50th time), but I'm 40% positive that you understand what I'm talking about.

So how exactly do you decide the ultimate ideal? Is it whatever is most prominent in society or did we just pick it out of a hat?

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The Flood / Re: If this topic is moved
« on: January 27, 2015, 07:04:49 PM »
oh shit

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Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 07:03:14 PM »
Obama is just as white as he is black.
Absolutely this.

The guy's fucking half-caste, not black.
He's predominantly black.
How does that work?

He has one black parent, one white.
Challenger is actually technically right. Obama's white mom actually has a distant black relative, believe it or not.

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Are you actually Jewish?

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Serious / Re: Are you a threat to the government?
« on: January 27, 2015, 06:45:49 PM »
Depends on the Government
The national government you live under

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As far the disposition of females in positions of power, that's explainable by the way male and female intelligence 'distributes' itself. Women have less geniuses but they also have less idiots. Most women are clumped around the average. Males are more distributed on the ends of the spectrum.

It's easy to nitpick out information like that to make an argument that sounds convincing, but unless you submit yourself to one cohesive logical sentiment, your going to have a much easier time contradicting yourself without realizing it.

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The Flood / Re: ITT: post your user tiers
« on: January 27, 2015, 05:16:23 PM »
If you spend most your time being butthurt or rude: shit tier
If you're funny or have something valuable to say: good tier

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Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 05:09:12 PM »
>yfw people will now spend even more money to get a 4+ year degree to be attractive
I don't see how this makes 4-year degrees more expensive.
Supply and demand. You have more kids trying to apply for college and they'll raise the standards.

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Why do these Internet personalities insist on having an opinion on everything? This is the kind of shit that makes me want to end the freedom of speech.

"I just read this article on brain scans, you can consider me an expert on neuroscience now."

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The Flood / Re: That's it. I am so done with Bungie right now.
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:37:48 PM »
bungie died when Eros died
oh that gay group

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So what exactly is this video about? How he hates his mother or something?
Pretty much; he's an advocate for people cutting off contact with their families if their values don't correspond with his own.
So why the hell is he talking about killing his mom?

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The Flood / Re: Please stop with challengerX threads
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:33:29 PM »
This is a shitpost
Hello there, This!

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The Flood / Re: Please stop with challengerX threads
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:33:02 PM »
guaranteed challenger replies

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The Flood / Please stop with challengerX threads
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:32:39 PM »
Kinder's return is upon us.

He will fight challenger's bullshit back to the depths of Hell from whence it came.

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1. This guy is famous? Or is he just Internet famous? Or just pseudo-intellectual famous?
Internet famous.

I'm fairly certain it goes to his head, at times.
So what exactly is this video about? How he hates his mother or something?

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The Flood / Re: Is squatting a girl exercise?
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:29:03 PM »
not worth rating/10
Don't you have anything better to do than to act butthurt all the time? Jesus Christ your life must be fucking depressing.

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1. This guy is famous? Or is he just Internet famous? Or just pseudo-intellectual famous?

2. Why the fuck is inmendham coming up as a related video? Fuck off with that Verbatim shit.

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The Flood / Re: Is squatting a girl exercise?
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:25:23 PM »
He said it was totally gay.

He's an expert.
rc is a permavirgin, how is he an expert?

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The Flood / Is squatting a girl exercise?
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:14:22 PM »
This faggot I know is doing some gay monthly challenge where he has to do squats and other shit for a month. I told him squatting was gay and for girls only and now a bunch of people are giving me shit.

Am I wrong here?

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The Flood / Re: That's it. I am so done with Bungie right now.
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:07:47 PM »
It was either Prometheus or Daz.

FUCK THOSE MOTHERFUCKING PECKER FUCKERS MAN! I JUST WANT TO SCREAM!!!

I swear.... I am so frustrated right now. I am done with Bungie. DONE!
*Explosion Imminent*

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Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 03:22:53 PM »
Credential inflation is a huge problem.

I too like Molyneux, at least when he isn't talking economics.
Is that the same guy you were going a counter argument video towards?
Yeah, I need to get round to that sometime.
I thought you said he an anarchic capitalist? Why would he want free community college?

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Serious / Re: On "Free" Community College
« on: January 27, 2015, 03:21:41 PM »
Credential inflation is a huge problem.

I too like Molyneux, at least when he isn't talking economics.
Is that the same guy you were going a counter argument video towards?

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The Flood / Re: WHERE IS THE TRIGGER
« on: January 27, 2015, 03:20:11 PM »
"Kyriarchy"

That's a new one.

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Serious / Re: Would you bang a drunk chick?
« on: January 27, 2015, 03:08:48 PM »
If you don't trust yourself giving out consent while intoxicated, don't intoxicate.

Have some self responsibility.

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The Flood / Re: Hey Dustbin...
« on: January 27, 2015, 02:01:37 PM »
just back from ramming kiyo

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The Flood / Re: DUSTIN
« on: January 27, 2015, 01:37:34 PM »
No it isnt

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Serious / Re: Something weird about this hate crime spread....
« on: January 27, 2015, 12:31:54 PM »
>hate crimes

What a stupid concept.
Care to elaborate?
Crime is crime.

The fact that a Negro was murdered by a Caucasian really isn't qualitatively dissimilar to a Caucasian being killed by a Caucasian.
Yeah but the motivation as to why someone murdered or attacked a person is important.

A hate crime is just a step away from terrorism, after all.

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